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Posted: 11 May 2022 at 9:49pm |
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I see it's only 4 rounds in the group stages again, and seems like the home/away KO round has been killed off too.
All the group fixtures in the depths of winter doesn't help our style of play - or make for a nice away trip In the good old 3 home/ 3 away days, we used to have 2 rounds in late October when the weather was a bit better.
Round of 16 – 31 March/ 1/2 April 2023 |
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KID A
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European rugby is more or less dead. Not because we aren't particularly good anymore. It's just a closed shop with the same old teams with huge budgets in the semi finals every year.
Different nations having different salary caps in their leagues and having to use the same squads in Europe is ludicrous. It's 2022 and rugby union is absolutely ridiculous considering it's a professional sport. |
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Totally agree. This is one of the reasons Welsh rugby is not successful. Big cities, major investors, huge crowds we’ll never be able to compare with that apart from the odd year when the magic happens for whatever reason. We’ll never be consistent in that arena.
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The ridiculous thing is this format only saves one weekend over the old format. Utterly mind boggling that they’ve wrecked the group stages just to save one weekend. Part of the appeal of Europe was that you were guaranteed to play at least one English and one French side home and away (while maintaining a format that doesn’t take 2 hours to understand!). And to think EPCR was formed because the old ECR wasn’t considered professional and competent enough!
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Not pedantic at all. A meaningful benefit. |
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minded
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Also worth noting that if i've worked it out currently:
Original format had a 67 game total. Current format with H/A round of 16 has a 73 game total. Removing that H/A but keepiing Ro16 has a 63 game total. So maybe the TV companies have been convinced that 4 less games is probably worth it if the Ro16 is better value for money and viewership that the dead rubber pool games.
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Wasp
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Round of 16 is an ok addition. But it comes at the cost of a guaranteed home fixture and the much needed revenue that accompanies that
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RR1972
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It suits the big ckubs best this way i’d guess
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They just care for the product.
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Wasp
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That’s no surprise, is it? |
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Fscarlet
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I think I would prefer a seeded draw in the round of 16, then a non seeded draw from there.
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SA14
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That’s what I was thinking. The whole point of a broadcaster is people wanting to watch them.
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KID A
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Was chatting with an esteemed colleague yesterday and he burped out this stat:
Value of our season ticket at Scarlets- A few years ago: 11 home league games 3 European home games 2 Anglo Welsh games TOTAL - 16 Next season: 9 league home games 2 European home games TOTAL: 11 If my dodgy maths is correct, that is a reduction in guaranteed home games of 32 %. Has this been raised at Crys meetings? Is this the continued direction of travel? Are we just content with this as a club? Do supporters have a say? Edited by KID A - 12 May 2022 at 11:23am |
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Wish we could have the old, Heineken format of years ago back, 6 games home and away. It worked better I feel. Some fantastic Stradey nights too.
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minded
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No it's not, my point is that they're not going to care less so it looks like the new format is here to stay despite how much i'd prefer 6 pool games.
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