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Andrew marr suggested liz truss eats a plateful of humble pie in grovel sauce, but even then said as a leader shes a dead woman walking
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Originally posted by roy munster roy munster wrote:

Andrew marr suggested liz truss eats a plateful of humble pie in grovel sauce, but even then said as a leader shes a dead woman walking

Just a matter of time Roy as you say. 
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This implosion, which goes back to Cameron calling for a certain referendum, is quite amazing to watch. They still have a 70 odd majority in parliament, if you can believe that. Truss' failure and speed at which her policies collapsed is something else. But this is what happens with a minority faction taking over and implementing things against the manifesto and threatening to cost 100 of her own MPs their jobs. 

She did exactly what she said she would. Questions over the MPs that nominated her and the Conservative members who thought she would make a better PM than Sunak remain. These people are idiots but the issue is how this could have even happened in the first place? Her track record was there, as indeed was Johnson's. It's not about political stance either: Johnson is a liar and Truss is incompetent, a "disruptor" for the sake of it, and a poor communicator. Johnson was sacked for lying and Truss has caused an economic crisis. She now has nothing, Hunt is looking like a caretaker PM. 

Braverman is truly nasty as well, sooner we get these people out the better. I dread to think what further damage they will cause over the next two years.
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Originally posted by dr_martinov dr_martinov wrote:

Questions over the MPs that nominated her and the Conservative members who thought she would make a better PM than Sunak remain. These people are idiots 

This. I think this is actually the main point. 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote dr_martinov Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17 October 2022 at 1:44pm
So as predicted Hunt has undone practically everything,* plus is taking away parts of the energy benefit package (which in itself was actually a Truss U-turn, so this must make it a W turn I suppose). 

And a tweet from Truss:

"The British people rightly want stability, which is why we are addressing the serious challenges we face in worsening economic conditions.

We have taken action to chart a new course for growth that supports and delivers for people across the United Kingdom."

YOU are the serious challenge we face and have, in fact, caused the latest worsening economic conditions. The second sentence is literally meaningless. I wouldn't be surprised if Hunt or his team wrote this.

*Apart from regulating the bankers bonuses, naturally. Funny what slips through isn't it?


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How do we get rid of the muppetmasters pulling the strings of these muppets?
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Not only has truss gone into hiding, but her deputy PM is also sat there doing nothing? Mourdant steps in to stone wall talking utter horlicks
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did @unt just say the govt is employing private companies to tell the govt how to run the economy?
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Independence is the only way we can stop these lunatics from ruining our lives
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote dr_martinov Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18 October 2022 at 7:47am
On C4 news a Tory MP said a GE was a bad idea because there wouldn't be enough Tory MPs to form an effective opposition. So not in the best interests of the country.

I suppose if a party is so unpopular and inefficient then of course they should remain in power to prevent them being a crap opposition. Genius!

K GM's face as well to this "logic" was priceless.
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So Kamiquasi Quarteng his admitted that he got carried away with his mini budget in an article in the Financial Times.  So the hard working people of the UK will have to suffer years of austerity because he got excited when put in charge of the country’s finances, whilst a Tory supporting paper pays him handsomely for his story.  He’s probably got paid more for his story/article than most consultants in the health service earn in a year.
What a world we live in.
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Originally posted by Legendinmybathroom Legendinmybathroom wrote:

So Kamiquasi Quarteng his admitted that he got carried away with his mini budget in an article in the Financial Times.  So the hard working people of the UK will have to suffer years of austerity because he got excited when put in charge of the country’s finances, whilst a Tory supporting paper pays him handsomely for his story.  He’s probably got paid more for his story/article than most consultants in the health service earn in a year.
What a world we live in.

"At last, a true Tory budget" said the Daily Mail. And yet many people still buy it after this terrible journalism.

So yes, what a world eh? 

Plus it wasn't just because he got excited. The fundamental plan was borrow to support tax breaks for the rich. It was inherently and deliberately anti-everyone else. So that they [beep]ed it up completely is in some ways better than had they not, because then Truss and Kwarteng both had to go due to their political and economic incompetence. Doesn't change what they did or the effects of it, or that we will be paying for it for a long time and they will suffer no ills apart from their political careers being over, but it truly is the "lesser of two evils" outcome.

It really shouldn't be forgotten that Truss and Kwarteng are extremists in the Ayn Rand mould. It is the Conservative Party that put them in power, with the inevitable result when someone nicknamed "the human hand grenade" with a long established record of being someone who is attention seeking and deliberately destructive for little purpose other than her own career advancement, plus is not exactly the sharpest tool in the box. Yet their MPs and then party members put them in charge which almost broke the country.

But yes, at last a true Tory budget.
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