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    Posted: 19 March 2023 at 12:15pm
Haven't seen the game but watched this......yellow for me. Thoughts.


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Not a red. Not a yellow.

Trying to avoid impact and protect himself after an Irish knock on.

By all means apply the protocol re head contact to tackles but surely it’s complete nonsense to apply it to the circumstances of this incident and similar.
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Pure rugby incident.
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Steward leaped into the air for some inexplicable reason when he was tacking a player who had just picked up a bouncing ball. He no arms shoulder charged him, hitting the tackled player directly in the head with considerable force resulting in him failing a head injury assessment. 
The only time I have seen anything similar on a rugby field not red carded was Tipuric on Johnny McNicholl the first game of this season.
If he had made an attempt to wrap his arms in the tackle, maybe he would have got away with a yellow, but he didn't, so a red was the only option.
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Yellow but letter of the law yaddy yaddy ya a red. 
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Shoulder or elbow to the head you are seeing red 
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I dunno finding myself on the naughty step with The Oracle and now agreeing with SA14. It's been quite a week.
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Originally posted by Scarlet O'Hara Scarlet O'Hara wrote:

I dunno finding myself on the naughty step with The Oracle and now agreeing with SA14. It's been quite a week.
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Originally posted by Seagultaf Seagultaf wrote:

Steward leaped into the air for some inexplicable reason when he was tacking a player who had just picked up a bouncing ball. He no arms shoulder charged him, hitting the tackled player directly in the head with considerable force resulting in him failing a head injury assessment. 
The only time I have seen anything similar on a rugby field not red carded was Tipuric on Johnny McNicholl the first game of this season.
If he had made an attempt to wrap his arms in the tackle, maybe he would have got away with a yellow, but he didn't, so a red was the only option.
Tipuruc was clear red card the red card yesterday was a joke nothing he could have down to prevent the collision. 
She asks why i still can't answer. I guess its in the blood.
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Originally posted by Why Why wrote:

Originally posted by Seagultaf Seagultaf wrote:

Steward leaped into the air for some inexplicable reason when he was tacking a player who had just picked up a bouncing ball. He no arms shoulder charged him, hitting the tackled player directly in the head with considerable force resulting in him failing a head injury assessment. 
The only time I have seen anything similar on a rugby field not red carded was Tipuric on Johnny McNicholl the first game of this season.
If he had made an attempt to wrap his arms in the tackle, maybe he would have got away with a yellow, but he didn't, so a red was the only option.
Tipuruc was clear red card the red card yesterday was a joke nothing he could have down to prevent the collision. 
Maybe not run into the other player. 

Edit: He’s a pro rugby player, they coach head to nearside hip from first contact sessions. It’s nobody’s fault but Stewards. He did nothing in that contact to mitigate despite it being accidental. Tough but fair treatment in my view. 


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A complete mockery.  No card for me.  But the Irish get it all.  They want to reduce injuries.  But the players are in the gym all week.  Pumping iron. They play all out for 50 minutes.  Reduce subs. Let’s go back to replacements for injury.  
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You could see steward brace his shoulder to go into the tackle ...red card all day ...was shown to be an ordinary full back yesterday not a great one 
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In my very humble opinion that's as nailed on a red as you're likely to see.
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Originally posted by Why Why wrote:

Originally posted by Seagultaf Seagultaf wrote:

Steward leaped into the air for some inexplicable reason when he was tacking a player who had just picked up a bouncing ball. He no arms shoulder charged him, hitting the tackled player directly in the head with considerable force resulting in him failing a head injury assessment. 
The only time I have seen anything similar on a rugby field not red carded was Tipuric on Johnny McNicholl the first game of this season.
If he had made an attempt to wrap his arms in the tackle, maybe he would have got away with a yellow, but he didn't, so a red was the only option.
Tipuruc was clear red card the red card yesterday was a joke nothing he could have down to prevent the collision. 

Steward was not red carded for the colliding with Keenan, he was red carded for a no arms shoulder charge tackle direct to the head. He could certainly have mitigated the situation by at least attempting to wrap his arms in the tackle, that would have reduced the card to yellow at worse.
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how could he have avoided the situation, he only had a micro second to react? Maybe Im being naive but I dont think he intended to hurt the player. It just looked like an unfortunate accident to my untrained eye. Yellow for me
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Basically your nieve , as you posted
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