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    Posted: 16 October 2017 at 2:08pm
It's 60 caps to play for Wales if you play outside Wales from next season.

Any player already contracted and playing outside of Wales will still be eligible for selection until their current contract expires. Then, if they have fewer than 60 caps, they will no longer be selected.

Biggar and Webb will not currently be eligible from next season, although Biggar will likely earn the 4 caps he needs to reach 60 in the Autumn Internationals and 6Ns - barring injury.

Webb, however, is on 28 caps; he will not be selected from next season - including for Rugby World Cup 2019 - until he returns to play in Wales. Big call for a Lions scrumhalf - bet he wished he'd known this last month.

In the press conference, Gatland said that Webb and his agent, Derywn Jones, knew this was coming, and also that Rhys hasn't yet signed his contract with Toulon - just the Letter of Intent. The inference is that it's not too late to turn down the contract and stay in Wales.

Ross Moriarty is the one to watch - if he doesn't sign for a Welsh team for next season, he'll no longer be considered for selection. Gatland is making favourable noises about the Dragons Shocked, but I hope he knows what to do. Dewch yma, Ross...




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About time - been a total joke since its inception. Feel a little sorry for Webb as he was not in possession of the facts unless they notified him during the NDC negotiations. Cawdor now in pole position with Aled probably as back up. 
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I thought Martyn Phillips had disappeared too
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote ap sior Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16 October 2017 at 3:01pm
Originally posted by GPR - Rochester GPR - Rochester wrote:

About time - been a total joke since its inception. Feel a little sorry for Webb as he was not in possession of the facts unless they notified him during the NDC negotiations. Cawdor now in pole position with Aled probably as back up. 

Did you miss this bit ?

Gatland said that Webb and his agent, Derywn Jones, knew this was coming




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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (1) Thanks(1)   Quote Dafen Boy Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16 October 2017 at 3:08pm
Originally posted by ap sior ap sior wrote:

Originally posted by GPR - Rochester GPR - Rochester wrote:

About time - been a total joke since its inception. Feel a little sorry for Webb as he was not in possession of the facts unless they notified him during the NDC negotiations. Cawdor now in pole position with Aled probably as back up. 

Did you miss this bit ?

Gatland said that Webb and his agent, Derywn Jones, knew this was coming


If you use Derwyn as your Agent you deserve all you get..LOL
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote NobbySosban Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16 October 2017 at 3:20pm
Originally posted by ap sior ap sior wrote:

Originally posted by GPR - Rochester GPR - Rochester wrote:

About time - been a total joke since its inception. Feel a little sorry for Webb as he was not in possession of the facts unless they notified him during the NDC negotiations. Cawdor now in pole position with Aled probably as back up. 

Did you miss this bit ?

Gatland said that Webb and his agent, Derywn Jones, knew this was coming




I added the Gatland quotes after I'd first posted the story, to be fair to GPR. Embarrassed

The changing room video with Gats & Martyn Phillips (which I also added to the edited post) shows that they know that only Webb will be affected, but it seems clear that this has been discussed and trailed for some time. The announcement appears to be aimed at anyone considering following Weggar over the Bridge, and forcing Webb to reconsider before he signs on the line. Awkward for Rhys. Confused


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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote NobbySosban Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16 October 2017 at 3:28pm
Probably my fave Gatland quote of the day, if not ever:

"...part of my role is not just looking at the national team. It’s about what’s best for Welsh rugby. It would be naive and selfish for me to be like that. The best thing for the game and the national team is to have regions that are competitive and supplying players."

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote GPR - Rochester Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16 October 2017 at 3:30pm
Originally posted by ap sior ap sior wrote:

Originally posted by GPR - Rochester GPR - Rochester wrote:

About time - been a total joke since its inception. Feel a little sorry for Webb as he was not in possession of the facts unless they notified him during the NDC negotiations. Cawdor now in pole position with Aled probably as back up. 

Did you miss this bit ?

Gatland said that Webb and his agent, Derywn Jones, knew this was coming





Thanks - yes I did miss it. 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Tim Opolis Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16 October 2017 at 5:56pm
The WRU using the shirt at last. Its the only deterrant. And if you have served a region and your country and got your 60 caps then you have earned the right to go and supplement your pension.
Tymor nesa Duw, plis tymor nesa.
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Spot on Tim
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote najbritcol Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16 October 2017 at 8:20pm
It is a good compromise.  Wales are not NZ - we don't have the strength-in-depth to have a total ban on exiles - but to say you must reach 60 Test caps while playing for a Welsh region is decent enough.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote scarletnut Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16 October 2017 at 8:31pm
Originally posted by Tim Opolis Tim Opolis wrote:

The WRU using the shirt at last. Its the only deterrant. And if you have served a region and your country and got your 60 caps then you have earned the right to go and supplement your pension.
Spot on
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It's tough on Webb. A season earlier and it would've been Sanjay in this hole.

But for us I think it's great news.

It stops English sides from hoovering up young talent. Hopefully we wont see another Owen Williams debacle.

I'm sure the chequebook is hovering over Steff Evans. 
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Originally posted by NobbySosban NobbySosban wrote:


In the press conference, Gatland said that Webb and his agent, Derywn Jones, knew this was coming, and also that Rhys hasn't yet signed his contract with Toulon - just the Letter of Intent. The inference is that it's not too late to turn down the contract and stay in Wales.





No real surprise but different noises coming out of Toulon.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/41650746
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That guy seems a right pain in the butt.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote GPR - Rochester Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17 October 2017 at 12:30pm
Originally posted by SA14 SA14 wrote:

That guy seems a right pain in the butt.

Think thats an understatement - ask LeighWink
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