Donald ( Do a Deal) Trump

Scarlswb wrote: I dont think it was Iran who fired at cyprus, it was either isreal or the US to get get us involved and allow US bombers to use the uk bases.

Wow.

Scarlswb wrote: I dont think it was Iran who fired at cyprus, it was either isreal or the US to get get us involved and allow US bombers to use the uk bases.

hmm ok  then

lofty evans wrote: Wil Chips wrote: Scarlswb wrote: I dont think it was Iran who fired at cyprus, it was either isreal or the US to get get us involved and allow US bombers to use the uk bases. Wow. False flag stuff yet again by a certain Country. My take and just my opinion if Iran wanted to hit the base they would have. My take with the 48 hour ultimatum and the big retraction that Iran and Orange blob were not in talks , Trump seriously wants out and based purely on the markets crashing. But he is owned by Netanyahu and he obeys whatever he wants, regardless of the bravado Trump spouts. My opinion when the markets close Friday there will be a boots on the ground in Iran on the weekend. Based purely on the air traffic going to the Persian gulf and they are not tourists. And I mean large Galaxies filled, emptied and filled and return flights. And I genuinely genuinely want me to be wrong.

Wil Chips wrote: Trump says:- We won the war. We have regime change. Iran wants a deal badly. Iran now say they will never have nuclear weapons. Iran says:- You're talking to yourself mate.

If the Americans base themselves on the island in the straights to facilitate tankers that’ll be the most bombed piece of real estate on earth

Abbey wrote: Wil Chips wrote: Scarlswb wrote: I dont think it was Iran who fired at cyprus, it was either isreal or the US to get get us involved and allow US bombers to use the uk bases. Wow. I’d just about stretch to believing it was Hezbollah but that’s about it.

It was most likely launched from the Lebanon. There was very little warning before it struck and apart from putting the wind up a few people it didn't really do much damage. 

Even after all these years - America in Vietnam, USSR in Afghanistan, America and allies in Afghanistan, Russia in Syria….
What those wars and the wars in Ukraine and Iran show us is that no matter how much of a Billy Bigballs you posture to be, war isn’t as simple as the big guys walking all over the smaller countries. Iran is now trolling America. No matter how evil their empire is, you have to giggle at the way they’re treating Trump the way he treats everyone else. The talks are “fake news”, America is “negotiating with itself”. No matter how Trump is spinning this via Fox News to MAGA, he has been completely and utterly humiliated in the eyes of the rest of the world. Netanyahu has played him like a musical instrument. This is a dangerous time as, privately, Trump knows this and will try and flex his muscles in defence. Alternatively, now is a good time for his political “friends” to go for the kill and give a nod and a wink to impeaching him. I’d be surprised if Vance isn’t talking to Speaker Johnson at the moment. Vance to take over and Johnson to be his VP.


Edited by Abbey - Yesterday at 1:13pm

Abbey wrote: Today’s presser at the White House highlights exactly why Trump and the likes of Witkoff are so unsuited to politics. Trump’s demand that Iran must formally agree that they have been defeated is not the actions of a diplomat who knows that to get what you want, you must allow the other side to save face but is the action of an alpha male businessman who must be seen to “win”. He needs to look up the meaning of “soft power”.