A certain tackle by Warburton

F******G Hell ... Kill Rolland because he penalised us ... Hang him out to dry because he didn't !

I saw Charteris pull the ball back into the ruck, but IN MY OPINION he did this after the French Tight Head had not come through the gate. First offence is what gets penalised in Rugby. Charteis action in pulling the ball back was the second offence in that phase therefore ending any advantage to Wales. Sometimes this can happen so quickly, youdont have time to call "advanage".
The other french forward had cleared out legally but gone way too far beyond the ruck, I think it was then Lydiate (need to confirrm the ID) who subsequently joined from the Welsh side, effectively setting a new offside line !
The penalty was for "offside, not through the gate" by Blue 3 !

scarletman wrote: F******G Hell ... Kill Rolland because he penalised us ... Hang him out to dry because he didn't ! I saw Charteris pull the ball back into the ruck, but IN MY OPINION he did this after the French Tight Head had not come through the gate. First offence is what gets penalised in Rugby. Charteis action in pulling the ball back was the second offence in that phase therefore ending any advantage to Wales. Sometimes this can happen so quickly, youdont have time to call "advanage". The other french forward had cleared out legally but gone way too far beyond the ruck, I think it was then Lydiate (need to confirrm the ID) who subsequently joined from the Welsh side, effectively setting a new offside line ! The penalty was for "offside, not through the gate" by Blue 3 !

From memory he didnt interfere in the play though, i thought he would have had to go for the ball to be considered active?

A Evans wrote: scarletman wrote: F******G Hell ... Kill Rolland because he penalised us ... Hang him out to dry because he didn't ! I saw Charteris pull the ball back into the ruck, but IN MY OPINION he did this after the French Tight Head had not come through the gate. First offence is what gets penalised in Rugby. Charteis action in pulling the ball back was the second offence in that phase therefore ending any advantage to Wales. Sometimes this can happen so quickly, youdont have time to call "advanage". The other french forward had cleared out legally but gone way too far beyond the ruck, I think it was then Lydiate (need to confirrm the ID) who subsequently joined from the Welsh side, effectively setting a new offside line ! The penalty was for "offside, not through the gate" by Blue 3 ! From memory he didnt interfere in the play though, i thought he would have had to go for the ball to be considered active?

If he's offside, he's interfering with play ! There is NO clause like in wendyball ... All players are active ! how many times have wee seen play go to the other side of the pitch for an offside penalty ?
When a player stands in front of the line of the back foot of a ruck/maul, he is offside  ... this guy was at least in line with Charteris' head !

A Evans wrote: scarletman wrote: A Evans wrote: scarletman wrote: F******G Hell ... Kill Rolland because he penalised us ... Hang him out to dry because he didn't ! I saw Charteris pull the ball back into the ruck, but IN MY OPINION he did this after the French Tight Head had not come through the gate. First offence is what gets penalised in Rugby. Charteis action in pulling the ball back was the second offence in that phase therefore ending any advantage to Wales. Sometimes this can happen so quickly, youdont have time to call "advanage". The other french forward had cleared out legally but gone way too far beyond the ruck, I think it was then Lydiate (need to confirrm the ID) who subsequently joined from the Welsh side, effectively setting a new offside line ! The penalty was for "offside, not through the gate" by Blue 3 ! From memory he didnt interfere in the play though, i thought he would have had to go for the ball to be considered active? If he's offside, he's interfering with play ! There is NO clause like in wendyball ... All players are active ! how many times have wee seen play go to the other side of the pitch for an offside penalty ? When a player stands in front of the line of the back foot of a ruck/maul, he is offside  ... this guy was at least in line with Charteris' head ! Ppppfftttt, that's the problem with you refs always sticking to the rules when it suits you mun .

I am, at this minute filling in the application form to be a Moderator !

the referee acted correctly and responsibly-in line with the laws of the game and I.R.B directives.What about Warburton?At best,his actions were hugely irresponsible.We must pose the question-why did the sending-off NOT determine the result?

Gate12 wrote: CRWYDRYN A MI wrote: the referee acted correctly and responsibly-in line with the laws of the game and I.R.B directives.What about Warburton?At best,his actions were hugely irresponsible.We must pose the question-why did the sending-off NOT determine the result?   1. Sorry but IMO thats well wide of the mark, at the very worst I could only describe his actions as clumsy.   2. It did, no matter how much people say Wales should still have won it they'd have thumped France with 15, kicks wouldn't have come into it.

There you go letting facts get in the way again mun.

lofty evans wrote: scarletman wrote: A Evans wrote: scarletman wrote: A Evans wrote: scarletman wrote: F******G Hell ... Kill Rolland because he penalised us ... Hang him out to dry because he didn't ! I saw Charteris pull the ball back into the ruck, but IN MY OPINION he did this after the French Tight Head had not come through the gate. First offence is what gets penalised in Rugby. Charteis action in pulling the ball back was the second offence in that phase therefore ending any advantage to Wales. Sometimes this can happen so quickly, youdont have time to call "advanage". The other french forward had cleared out legally but gone way too far beyond the ruck, I think it was then Lydiate (need to confirrm the ID) who subsequently joined from the Welsh side, effectively setting a new offside line ! The penalty was for "offside, not through the gate" by Blue 3 ! From memory he didnt interfere in the play though, i thought he would have had to go for the ball to be considered active? If he's offside, he's interfering with play ! There is NO clause like in wendyball ... All players are active ! how many times have wee seen play go to the other side of the pitch for an offside penalty ? When a player stands in front of the line of the back foot of a ruck/maul, he is offside  ... this guy was at least in line with Charteris' head ! Ppppfftttt, that's the problem with you refs always sticking to the rules when it suits you mun . I am, at this minute filling in the application form to be a Moderator !   If you are part of the inner chosen few, you have a good shout,,,,,,,,

salmidach wrote: scarletman wrote:   I am, at this minute filling in the application form to be a Moderator ! don't do it m8..... total respect gone then Jon

You mean what's left of it !