The English Nationalist Party

Brilliant thread MM. 

Too much choice on the right. Con-dems, Ukip, BNP and the English Nationalist Party. Should split the rabid right vote very nicely.

omri jones wrote: Too much choice on the right. Con-dems, Ukip, BNP and the English Nationalist Party. Should split the rabid right vote very nicely.

I thought they were campaigning for an English Parliament or Assembly in response to devolution and I thought they were moderate and not far right nutters? I don't claim to be an expert (!) am I totally wrong? Genuine question.



Edited by Abbey - 09 October 2012 at 8:38pm

dr_martinov wrote: I hear this argument a fair bit actually (as I live in England): if there is a Scottish Government, Welsh Assembly, NI whatever, then why not an English equivalent? My response is "you lot generally have the majority say in UK-wide politics anyway" but it is a fair point. I remember starting a thread a while ago asking what the opinions towards Welsh independence would be and it was quite a mixed bag. Wonder what the equivalent in the Kingdom of Yorkshire would be?

What annoys me is this attitude in the English press and elsewhere about how England subsidises free prescriptions etc. Truth is that we are given money under the Barnett formula and we can spend it as we choose. If we want to spend 95% on education and 5% on health then so be it. The public at large don't realise that if you want free prescriptions the money has to be taken from elsewhere in healthcare which results in longer waiting times than in England.

SMELLYMIKE wrote: Abbey wrote: dr_martinov wrote: I hear this argument a fair bit actually (as I live in England): if there is a Scottish Government, Welsh Assembly, NI whatever, then why not an English equivalent? My response is "you lot generally have the majority say in UK-wide politics anyway" but it is a fair point. I remember starting a thread a while ago asking what the opinions towards Welsh independence would be and it was quite a mixed bag. Wonder what the equivalent in the Kingdom of Yorkshire would be?  What annoys me is this attitude in the English press and elsewhere about how England subsidises free prescriptions etc. Truth is that we are given money under the Barnett formula and we can spend it as we choose. If we want to spend 95% on education and 5% on health then so be it. The public at large don't realise that if you want free prescriptions the money has to be taken from elsewhere in healthcare which results in longer waiting times than in England. A proven to be outdated mechanism , that is allowed to continue , even though it has shown to be wrong ...we as a nation in wales have become poodles , but i guess that happens after 1000 years of occupation

I thought you were Australian?

Well he does give the impression he spends most of his time upside down.

Bam! I ain't getting up from that one.

SMELLYMIKE wrote: Abbey wrote: dr_martinov wrote: I hear this argument a fair bit actually (as I live in England): if there is a Scottish Government, Welsh Assembly, NI whatever, then why not an English equivalent? My response is "you lot generally have the majority say in UK-wide politics anyway" but it is a fair point. I remember starting a thread a while ago asking what the opinions towards Welsh independence would be and it was quite a mixed bag. Wonder what the equivalent in the Kingdom of Yorkshire would be?  What annoys me is this attitude in the English press and elsewhere about how England subsidises free prescriptions etc. Truth is that we are given money under the Barnett formula and we can spend it as we choose. If we want to spend 95% on education and 5% on health then so be it. The public at large don't realise that if you want free prescriptions the money has to be taken from elsewhere in healthcare which results in longer waiting times than in England. A proven to be outdated mechanism , that is allowed to continue , even though it has shown to be wrong ...we as a nation in wales have become poodles , but i guess that happens after 1000 years of occupation

You're 100% right.

As I've mentioned before, even Lord Barnett himself has argued for the replacement of his formula, which was never meant to run for more than a few years. The result is that Wales has become increasingly worse off, whereas Scotland has done rather well out of it. (Oddly, if your population increases - Wales - the formula works against you, whereas if it falls - Scotland - then you benefit.)