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Originally posted by Eastern outpost Eastern outpost wrote:

Originally posted by GPR - Rochester GPR - Rochester wrote:

Originally posted by Rob o'r Bont Rob o'r Bont wrote:

Originally posted by Eastern outpost Eastern outpost wrote:

Civilised debate on issues.

Whatever next?!

BTW, Rob, I struggle really to remember much of a campaign from Remainers other than fear. If you did a post-mortem on their campaign it would have complacency writ through it like a stick of rock.

Things have changed and incompetent, sometimes unprincipled, government remains the same. The guff comes only from Westminster and no longer sprouts from Brussels.
Indeed Steve, what I like about debating with GPR is that we can have a good old ding dong but at the end of the debate it's drinks in the cyber bar all round. He's one of the reasons I enjoy coming here. Beer

And yes, the 'remainer' politicians were definitely part of the problem. 

Thank you Rob & Steve the sprout phrase is a cracker.LOL
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Originally posted by totallybiasedscarlet totallybiasedscarlet wrote:

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2023/feb/11/revealed-secret-cross-party-summit-held-to-confront-failings-of-brexit
Thanks for that TBS.

Hope it’s something less than a magic wand that’s needed to improve much for many.
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Cut the bs and just rejoin ..it's not to jet science 
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Originally posted by Oracle Oracle wrote:

Cut the bs and just rejoin ..it's not to jet science 

As much as I would vote to rejoin, I don't think the EU would let the UK do so as things stand. I think Britain has to change enormously before they'll let us in again. Until there's deep rooted cultural, constitutional and electoral change - in other words a modern Britain emerges from the ashes of the UK - they'll know that we'll still be the same old massive pain in the backside we were before. The UK is an unstable structure. Need to knock it down and rebuild before we can look abroad.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Eastern outpost Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 February 2023 at 7:41pm
Originally posted by totallybiasedscarlet totallybiasedscarlet wrote:

Originally posted by Oracle Oracle wrote:

Cut the bs and just rejoin ..it's not to jet science 

As much as I would vote to rejoin, I don't think the EU would let the UK do so as things stand. I think Britain has to change enormously before they'll let us in again. Until there's deep rooted cultural, constitutional and electoral change - in other words a modern Britain emerges from the ashes of the UK - they'll know that we'll still be the same old massive pain in the backside we were before. The UK is an unstable structure. Need to knock it down and rebuild before we can look abroad.
”Perfection” is always just out of reach, at best. Think of some of the nations in there already and what pains they are. Hungary, for example.

Whatever govt is in place, it will have its critics. There’ll be allegations of, as well as outright, corruption. Some wider checks and measures would be great.

However, as I type, I feel the “force” of GPR rallying to his keyboard to criticise the EU (autocorrect had WRU) and say we are best rid of them.

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I don't see it being funny , but the biggest thing wrong is the so called UK ..Scotland and Wales have no influence of what happens in Westminster and the further to the right things move , the more we need to rip up this unholy so called alliance and move forward as Wales , not this made up united kingdom ..we are getting abused in every facet of life and even if labour win , I can't see it getting better and inevitably the far right will get back in ...it may be imigrants and minority factions of society but what happens when it's the Welsh and Scottish seen as the problem ...look back to 1934 to see history repeat itself 
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Originally posted by Eastern outpost Eastern outpost wrote:

Originally posted by totallybiasedscarlet totallybiasedscarlet wrote:

Originally posted by Oracle Oracle wrote:

Cut the bs and just rejoin ..it's not to jet science 

As much as I would vote to rejoin, I don't think the EU would let the UK do so as things stand. I think Britain has to change enormously before they'll let us in again. Until there's deep rooted cultural, constitutional and electoral change - in other words a modern Britain emerges from the ashes of the UK - they'll know that we'll still be the same old massive pain in the backside we were before. The UK is an unstable structure. Need to knock it down and rebuild before we can look abroad.
”Perfection” is always just out of reach, at best. Think of some of the nations in there already and what pains they are. Hungary, for example.

Whatever govt is in place, it will have its critics. There’ll be allegations of, as well as outright, corruption. Some wider checks and measures would be great.

However, as I type, I feel the “force” of GPR rallying to his keyboard to criticise the EU (autocorrect had WRU) and say we are best rid of them.

LOL

Nice one EO - great to start the day with a giggle.LOL. I have consistently agreed that the opportunities as I saw them by Brexit have been, in the main, ruined by a woeful government. For sure covid didn't help matters but the idea of cross party discussions to agree a way forward which includes better cooperation with our European neighbours seems to be a sign of some much required leadership. Long may it continue. 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Eastern outpost Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12 February 2023 at 8:35am
Originally posted by GPR - Rochester GPR - Rochester wrote:

Originally posted by Eastern outpost Eastern outpost wrote:

Originally posted by totallybiasedscarlet totallybiasedscarlet wrote:

Originally posted by Oracle Oracle wrote:

Cut the bs and just rejoin ..it's not to jet science 

As much as I would vote to rejoin, I don't think the EU would let the UK do so as things stand. I think Britain has to change enormously before they'll let us in again. Until there's deep rooted cultural, constitutional and electoral change - in other words a modern Britain emerges from the ashes of the UK - they'll know that we'll still be the same old massive pain in the backside we were before. The UK is an unstable structure. Need to knock it down and rebuild before we can look abroad.
”Perfection” is always just out of reach, at best. Think of some of the nations in there already and what pains they are. Hungary, for example.

Whatever govt is in place, it will have its critics. There’ll be allegations of, as well as outright, corruption. Some wider checks and measures would be great.

However, as I type, I feel the “force” of GPR rallying to his keyboard to criticise the EU (autocorrect had WRU) and say we are best rid of them.

LOL

Nice one EO - great to start the day with a giggle.LOL. I have consistently agreed that the opportunities as I saw them by Brexit have been, in the main, ruined by a woeful government. For sure covid didn't help matters but the idea of cross party discussions to agree a way forward which includes better cooperation with our European neighbours seems to be a sign of some much required leadership. Long may it continue. 
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