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Originally posted by Kentexile Kentexile wrote:

The  Sun for many years paid girls as young as 16 for intimate photographs which it used for commercial gain.
 

Whilst it’s grubby stuff,they would say that this was with informed consent ( presumably parental as well) unlike cases where a senior figure can engage in dominant behaviour based on the power they inherently hold in a business . Sadly I fear more tales will emerge but which will embarrass rather than he criminal, but nonetheless upsetting to many people. A sad case which of course the Sun thrives on. Thankfully it’s dropped down the news this morning as it was OTT compared to other news 
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Very sad when this very sorry affair was confronted by Huw’s wife yesterday afternoon.
My heart goes out to all the people involved in the allegations and to Huw and his family, as this affects them equally, I hope he recovers from his current health issues quickly and clears the story himself.  Huw is a legend, has fronted the BBC current affairs department for over 2 decades and has been trusted to cover all of the major news events in that time, and has done so impeccably and with real empathy and compassion - something I hope he and his family receive in light of the current situation.
I too hope that if no criminality has been committed by Huw, and that nome of the so-called evidence of the allegations by the sun are proven credible, that Huw and others go after the sun for the gutter press that they are, and always have been.
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Originally posted by ap sior ap sior wrote:

Originally posted by RR1972 RR1972 wrote:

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So his wife has named him , but has he broken the law , the police say no ...so what is going to happen to the sun newspaper ....mental health issues are allways bad ..and often worse for the family .....I think it's time that scum press need to be disposed of ....sun , telegraph , times , express and mail need to be investigated and disposed of ..then the people can hear the truth 
you can’t dispose of the press this isn’t nazi germany, no one forces people to buy thiese papers. If they are printing lies edwards can sue them for libel. As for edwards i do feel sorry for his family. As for huw  he is a grown man responsible for his own actions .  I don’t judge him that is not my place but neither do i feel sympathy for him. 

The name of the papers doesn't matter , what the point here is that truths are being ignored and selective people control what we hear ...Fox news is a prime example of what can go wrong when lies are continuously being spouted , which turned extremists into a mob to destroy the fabric of a country 
lets see edwards sue then for libel if this is all untrue then. He is high profile enough and got the money to do it

On the other hand, he may not wish to put his wife and family through any more gossip and turmoil, nor himself for that matter.

I hope he does go after the Sun
 if its lies he shpuld if on the ither hand it’s factual backed up by photos text mrssages was app convis etc he hasn’t got a leg to stand on had he? Lets see how it all pans out before we class him as a villian or a victim. Tbh i don’t see him as either the allegations are more immoral than illegal and as succh none of my comcern

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So his wife has named him , but has he broken the law , the police say no ...so what is going to happen to the sun newspaper ....mental health issues are allways bad ..and often worse for the family .....I think it's time that scum press need to be disposed of ....sun , telegraph , times , express and mail need to be investigated and disposed of ..then the people can hear the truth 
you can’t dispose of the press this isn’t nazi germany, no one forces people to buy thiese papers. If they are printing lies edwards can sue them for libel. As for edwards i do feel sorry for his family. As for huw  he is a grown man responsible for his own actions .  I don’t judge him that is not my place but neither do i feel sympathy for him. 

The name of the papers doesn't matter , what the point here is that truths are being ignored and selective people control what we hear ...Fox news is a prime example of what can go wrong when lies are continuously being spouted , which turned extremists into a mob to destroy the fabric of a country 
lets see edwards sue then for libel if this is all untrue then. He is high profile enough and got the money to do it

What on earth is the argument here? The Sun publish a story which they clearly knew would get headlines & also lead to massive issues for a family. Nothing new there of course. However they try to hide behind the fact that it is for the public good yet, and here is the sting, they totally fail to corroborate the story with the apparent victim in this who is now 20 & deemed to be an adult. If they had they would have received a somewhat different, far less sensational story. 

Look Huw may well have his issues but it surely is not for me or any other contributor on this forum to denounce what he may or may not have done. It may not be our cup of tea, it may not be his wife's but it is not breaking the law & frankly it's nobody's business but theirs. Oracle has given a perfect example of how news outlets can knowingly print lies and the consequences are extremely damaging. What happened in America should be a lesson to us all. 

As for my sympathy - well I do feel sympathy for Huw, a fellow human being, who has been forced to watch his reputation as one of the foremost political journalists of our time take a total battering while he is not yet mentally capable of fighting back. Hopefully, in the not too distant future, he will be able to set the record straight. 
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If it is true  why should i feel sorry  for him? He is a grown adult man no one made him go on those dating sites, no one made him message people. If and i repeat if it is true he is solely responsible for his actions and that is on him. By the same  token i don’t feel any anger or outrage at him. His personal life is his own affair i don’t care what he or anyone else does as long as it’s not illegal in all honesty 

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Originally posted by RR1972 RR1972 wrote:

If it is true  why should i feel sorry  for him? He is a grown adult man no one made him go on those dating sites, no one made him message people. If and i repeat if it is true he is solely responsible for his actions and that is on him. By the same  token i don’t feel any anger or outrage at him. His personal life is his own affair i don’t care what he or anyone else does as long as it’s not illegal in all honesty 

I guess its called benefit of the doubt - or innocent until proven guilty. Do you not feel any sympathy for someone who is in the public eye having their reputation tarnished by a as yet unproven story which the police have already confirmed was not unlawful. If you or I had done what Huw is alleged to have done would anyone bat an eyelid? I am lucky ( I think) that I have the skin of a rhino & have never suffered with depression or other mental health issues but I have seen the devastation close up with family members. Do I feel sorry for them - yes I certainly do; do I have sympathy - absolutely yes. 
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Originally posted by RR1972 RR1972 wrote:

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Originally posted by RR1972 RR1972 wrote:

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So his wife has named him , but has he broken the law , the police say no ...so what is going to happen to the sun newspaper ....mental health issues are allways bad ..and often worse for the family .....I think it's time that scum press need to be disposed of ....sun , telegraph , times , express and mail need to be investigated and disposed of ..then the people can hear the truth 
you can’t dispose of the press this isn’t nazi germany, no one forces people to buy thiese papers. If they are printing lies edwards can sue them for libel. As for edwards i do feel sorry for his family. As for huw  he is a grown man responsible for his own actions .  I don’t judge him that is not my place but neither do i feel sympathy for him. 

The name of the papers doesn't matter , what the point here is that truths are being ignored and selective people control what we hear ...Fox news is a prime example of what can go wrong when lies are continuously being spouted , which turned extremists into a mob to destroy the fabric of a country 
lets see edwards sue then for libel if this is all untrue then. He is high profile enough and got the money to do it
..I can see your experience of people with mental illness is minimal at best , Huw Edwards may spend the rest of his days in hospital having care for his mental illness , I'm sure trying to sue a multinational corporation is that last thing on his or anyone's mind , especially as he's currently not being charged with any wrong doing 
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Huw has been quite open about his struggles with his own mental health. He's done so to publicise what can be a stigmatised condition, and discussed his own issues with a view to helping others. He's worn his heart on his sleeve on this one, for which I admire him.

He has also been prepared to back his words with action and is a Patron of the Llanelli branch of MIND, the mental health charity. 

Now that he needs help, I think he deserves sympathy and the time to get the treatment that he clearly needs at the present time. I also have so much sympathy for others who have been dragged in to this, including his wife and family.

If the Sun were so incensed about a 'crime' having been committed, I think the correct course of action would have been to pass any information and evidence to the Police and let them investigate. The Sun are not the judge and jury on this or any other case. Sadly this sort of story sells copy.
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I think we should just park the subject and see what unfolds both in terms of the BBC investigation and any health updates. Hopefully no further police involvements as well 🙏 . 
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Originally posted by ap sior ap sior wrote:

Huw has been quite open about his struggles with his own mental health. He's done so to publicise what can be a stigmatised condition, and discussed his own issues with a view to helping others. He's worn his heart on his sleeve on this one, for which I admire him.

He has also been prepared to back his words with action and is a Patron of the Llanelli branch of MIND, the mental health charity. 

Now that he needs help, I think he deserves sympathy and the time to get the treatment that he clearly needs at the present time. I also have so much sympathy for others who have been dragged in to this, including his wife and family.

If the Sun were so incensed about a 'crime' having been committed, I think the correct course of action would have been to pass any information and evidence to the Police and let them investigate. The Sun are not the judge and jury on this or any other case. Sadly this sort of story sells copy.



Sums it up very well.

The Sun’s original headline ( A leading BBC employee paid for and received pornographic images of a person under the age of 18 by mobile phone) is actually against the law in the UK.

The lawyers of the family of the person in the images tried to back out before the Sun published the images, but the Sun still went ahead.

It’s pretty obvious that the family of the person would have received some money from the Sun too, so aren’t blameless in all this. Going to the press was a distasteful option.
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Whilst I have some sympathy for Huw Edwards  he has let his wife and children down. He has courted young people for sexual favours whether that be in person or on video for want of a better phrase and been caught.
He did not think about his family when he was doing this he did not care about the damage he was doing to them. He’s been very selfish and they now have to deal with the fallout.
I’m sorry he has mental health issues and hope he gets better soon but as great a broadcaster he is now tainted by his tardy and unseemly behaviour. 

She asks why i still can't answer. I guess its in the blood.
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You don't seem very sorry to me , especially as you don't have all of the facts ....probably would have been a better option if you had kept your powder dry until all of the facts are available ....
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You don't seem very sorry to me , especially as you don't have all of the facts ....probably would have been a better option if you had kept your powder dry until all of the facts are available ....
Well he did resign so there is some truth in it otherwise he would still be reading the news. 
She asks why i still can't answer. I guess its in the blood.
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You don't seem very sorry to me , especially as you don't have all of the facts ....probably would have been a better option if you had kept your powder dry until all of the facts are available ....
Well he did resign so there is some truth in it otherwise he would still be reading the news. 
Not sure if he has resigned. In hospital with Mental Health issues. Let's not judge too quickly.
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Originally posted by thommo thommo wrote:

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You don't seem very sorry to me , especially as you don't have all of the facts ....probably would have been a better option if you had kept your powder dry until all of the facts are available ....
Well he did resign so there is some truth in it otherwise he would still be reading the news. 
Not sure if he has resigned. In hospital with Mental Health issues. Let's not judge too quickly.

Exactly...we don't know whether he has been unwise or not. .we don't have the facts !
There is clearly no illegality, so its an issue for the BBC  Huw's employers, and his family, as I said in yesterdays post.

The important issue here is the role of the Sun, and its recurring role of 'Muckraker' in chief, as it has constantly done for decades.
How many lives have they ruined in the past with their version of "fake news"

It would be great to hear posters like MINDED and RR  actually condemn the Sun , not just pontificate on the alleged actions of Huw Edwards.
Have you suffered mental health gentlemen? Probably not !
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I think we should take the earlier advice of a poster & park this until the full facts are known. Inaccuracies are being shared by fellow posters which are not helpful. Huw has been suspended on full pay pending an internal investigation - thats it. 

Personally I find it very sad hearing fellow posters taking the moral high ground on this issue but thats just my slant on it. On a lighter note I sold Huw a book online a year or so ago. Seeing an address in London combined with the fact that it was a book in Welsh I put two and two together and sent him an e-mail thanking him and wondering if he was the famous Huw Edwards. I received a lovely reply in Welsh.
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