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    Posted: 08 March 2025 at 3:49pm
France superb so far, enjoying watching Ireland being humbled 13 - 32 and without Dupont 
In 1972, Roy Bergiers scored that try and said "that was for you lofty"

"All you have to decide is what to do with the time that is given to us"
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Perhaps Ireland should have played with 13 men or played their under 20’s 
She asks why i still can't answer. I guess its in the blood.
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Superb, and fair play to the referee who has got all the calls right and hasn’t been intimidated by the Irish players and fans.
France took the risk of naming 7 forwards on the bench, especially when the lost Dupont quite early on in the first half, but their power play has been sensational and Ireland have had no answers to it.
This could be the start of the end of Ireland’s dominance of northern hemisphere rugby, a lot of players (outstanding) now well into their thirties so a rebuild is going to be needed.  On the plus side though is their academy systems within the provinces and the fact that they are able to retain all of the young talent.
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Originally posted by Legendinmybathroom Legendinmybathroom wrote:

Superb, and fair play to the referee who has got all the calls right and hasn’t been intimidated by the Irish players and fans.
France took the risk of naming 7 forwards on the bench, especially when the lost Dupont quite early on in the first half, but their power play has been sensational and Ireland have had no answers to it.
This could be the start of the end of Ireland’s dominance of northern hemisphere rugby, a lot of players (outstanding) now well into their thirties so a rebuild is going to be needed.  On the plus side though is their academy systems within the provinces and the fact that they are able to retain all of the young talent.

Tbh mate it's 13 - 42 Ireland getting hammered when they thought Grand Slam day.....absolutely smashed 1 to 15.


In 1972, Roy Bergiers scored that try and said "that was for you lofty"

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It was good to see McCarthy given a YC first half for cynically pulling back Ramos the support runner.

During HT last week in the Ulster match, Bowe and the NI commentator blamed the Nicholas try on the fact that Ioan was not taken out after he’d fed Macs. They made the point that Ioan should have been taken out to prevent him carrying on as a support runner. Shows their thinking!!!!


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Originally posted by ap sior ap sior wrote:

It was good to see McCarthy given a YC first half for cynically pulling back Ramos the support runner.

During HT last week in the Ulster match, Bowe and the NI commentator blamed the Nicholas try on the fact that Ioan was not taken out after he’d fed Macs. They made the point that Ioan should have been taken out to prevent him carrying on as a support runner. Shows their thinking!!!!

Any player worth his salt should do that. Just don’t let the refs see. 
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I have to admit to having a little giggle about an exchange of views I had with some Irish friends on the Scotland v Ireland thread on 15th February. Those Irish friends were Cathan & Airdaa. The general gist of my comment was that Ireland were an aging squad & could be on the way slowly downwards. 

Needless to say my Irish friends disagreed - Cathan pretty strongly & Airdaa, as usual, in a very thoughtful, respectful way. Of course one game does not prove anything either way but the sight of Peter O'Mahoney, a wonderful servant to Irish rugby, chasing shadows in wide channels & being overpowered by back rowers not long out of the French 20's suggested that I may have a point. In addition Cathan suggested that the replacement for many of their aging players were already ready & many would be candidates for the Lions - namely Osborne & Baird.

Well both had their chances yesterday & delivered 4/5 from 10 performances. Much is being made of the 7/1 split on the French bench but look at the facts - Jegou had to play in the centre so France changed 6 forwards & oh Ireland also changed 6 forwards. The reason Ireland were absolutely hammered was not the numbers but the quality of the bench. Add in the fact that France possess irresistable attacking weapons even without Dupont & Irish poor discipline, which was refereed properly in Dublin itself a collectors item, & you have the picture. 

Ireland 20's are not exactly covering themselves in glory at the moment even losing to Wales so maybe, just maybe, it could be a good time for Easterby to consider his options going forward. Happy days!!!!!
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https://youtu.be/jUYL_K1MrBY?si=blLvywO8C15bqhnm

Was the beirne clear out on Dupont dangerous play ? French ain't happy 
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Originally posted by roy munster roy munster wrote:

https://youtu.be/jUYL_K1MrBY?si=blLvywO8C15bqhnm

Was the beirne clear out on Dupont dangerous play ? French ain't happy 

Thanks for this the video and presenter explains it well Beirne didn't wrap his arms and it was shoulder to the knee and resulting everyone piles in creates damage.
Understand the French anger, 
Beirne is not a dirty player but not good tbh, Dupont takes some hits and gets up.

In 1972, Roy Bergiers scored that try and said "that was for you lofty"

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https://youtu.be/jUYL_K1MrBY?si=blLvywO8C15bqhnm

Was the beirne clear out on Dupont dangerous play ? French ain't happy
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The Irish players clearly going off feet at the breakdown.

It’s an area of play that isn't consistently refereed at the moment. If they do want to reduce lower limb injuries, they're going to have to improve the officiating.

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Originally posted by lofty evans lofty evans wrote:

France superb so far, enjoying watching Ireland being humbled 13 - 32 and without Dupont 

Oooh I enoyed this 1 too lofty Big smileAbsolute privelige to witness 1 of the greatest 6 nations performances ever....To go to the back yard of the world number 2 team who seemed to be heading for another grand slam ....lose your best player and still absolutely hammer them...in style...is quite some achievement....the power the pace the off loads the angles of running the variety the support running...simply sublime Clap
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Beirne’s nonsense dive a few weeks ago showed he’s turned into a dirty player. 

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I've seen an analysis of the incident on a YouTube video. Beirne made no attempt to wrap with either arm. There was also an element of side entry and an attempt to swing around on to the French side. The Irish have longed employed the tactic of swinging around on the side of the ruck to slow down and make quick delivery of the ball much more difficult by interfering with the SH. The Irish usually do this when they have lost the ball which wasn't the case in this incident.

WR have responded in part by making any interference on the SH a penalty. Perhaps it's time to penalise the swinging around the side of rucks.
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France captain Antoine Dupont ruptured cruciate ligaments in his knee during Les Bleus' Six Nations win over Ireland on Saturday.

Dupont, 28, was forced off in the first half after Ireland second row Tadhg Beirne fell on his leg at a ruck.

"The heart hurts even more than the knee when you have to leave your friends before the last step," Dupont posted on Instagram.

"I am proud of what we accomplished yesterday and with all my strength with you, you will do it.

"Rupture of the cruciate ligaments. This is the beginning of a new challenge, I'll see you in a few months on the field."

France head coach Fabien Galthie said there was "anger" in the French camp over the incident, which was not referred to the television match official (TMO) during the game.

Galthie said Dupont was "suffering" and that he has referred Ireland pair Beirne and Andrew Porter to the citing commissioner for possible retrospective punishment.

Dupont was replaced by Maxime Lucu, who was France's only back replacement, and he impressed to help Les Bleus score 34 unanswered points to ensure they top the Six Nations heading into their final match against Scotland on Saturday.

Victory for Galthie's side at Stade de France would likely secure a first Six Nations title since 2022
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Originally posted by ap sior ap sior wrote:

I've seen an analysis of the incident on a YouTube video. Beirne made no attempt to wrap with either arm. There was also an element of side entry and an attempt to swing around on to the French side. The Irish have longed employed the tactic of swinging around on the side of the ruck to slow down and make quick delivery of the ball much more difficult by interfering with the SH. The Irish usually do this when they have lost the ball which wasn't the case in this incident.

WR have responded in part by making any interference on the SH a penalty. Perhaps it's time to penalise the swinging around the side of rucks.

Isnt there also some responsibility to stay on your feet? He didnt use arms , lost balance and fell on duponts lower leg....absolute mess....not saying it was deliberate but seriously careless and dangerous ....this area surely needs better policing
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Originally posted by roy munster roy munster wrote:

Originally posted by ap sior ap sior wrote:

I've seen an analysis of the incident on a YouTube video. Beirne made no attempt to wrap with either arm. There was also an element of side entry and an attempt to swing around on to the French side. The Irish have longed employed the tactic of swinging around on the side of the ruck to slow down and make quick delivery of the ball much more difficult by interfering with the SH. The Irish usually do this when they have lost the ball which wasn't the case in this incident.

WR have responded in part by making any interference on the SH a penalty. Perhaps it's time to penalise the swinging around the side of rucks.

Isnt there also some responsibility to stay on your feet? He didnt use arms , lost balance and fell on duponts lower leg....absolute mess....not saying it was deliberate but seriously careless and dangerous ....this area surely needs better policing
On the basis of a not necessarily representative sample, i think the French disciplinary committees are harsher on this type of thing than in England or the URC.

Also, POM got away with a few no arms tackles that weren’t necessarily the best of timing. Quite fitting, really, in his last home international.


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