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Dai Guevara 
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 Posted: 25 February 2023 at 4:20pm |
 Eastern outpost wrote:
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Lincscarlet wrote:
Just seen their 9 run into an Italian shoulder then dive like Tom Daley holding his neck. Same as Sexton in game 1. Clear and obvious attempt to get a card. |
Absolutely right - even the Irish commentator more or less admitted the 9 was trying it on.
In general, do you think that refs 'prefer' - even if subconsciously - the 'big' teams in a match? I sort of suspect that is the case.
Evidence in today's game -
1. Italy make a superb line break - their man is tackled 5m for the Ireland line - Porter goes for a jackal, CLEARLY supports his weight on his arms before getting the ball.
Penalty - Ireland.
2. Italy 9 taken out late with a rib-tickler at a lineout. Nothing given.
3. The incident already mentioned where the Ireland 9 tried to get a YC for the Italy second row -penalty Ireland (should hae been nothing at all - or even apenalty to Italy for 'unsportsmanlike conduct'!)
Also, possibly a high tackle on the Italy 15, but no replay or TMO intervention... somehow, in Ireland whenever there is something (or often, nothing) you get a lot of slo-mo replays on the big screen - so long as it favours Ireland's case. You look long and hard to see a replay of Williams concussing Barclay with a forearm smash, because they choose not to show it. (Just the most blatant example of a well-honed policy.)
Other countries need to retaliate with equally biased TMO replay stuff!
Apart from that - great game - but blatant cheating does get my goat. |
Mike Adamson and these sorts of things go hand in hand too often, IMO.
I think it’s a competency issue and possibly supplemented by either not wanting too much help from his assistants or creating that impression inadvertently. I can understand not having much faith in the week in week out league, depending on who’s there, however, with Wayne Barnes and Craig Evans as assistants.
Having said that, how on earth is McCloskey still on the pitch after a forearm tackle on Capuozzo’s nose???
Adamson and competence akin to ball in hand and a knock on. |
How McCloskey is still allowed to play after his attempt to decapitate Rogers in the Ulster v Scarlets match is beyond me.
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Posted: 25 February 2023 at 4:33pm |
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Posted: 25 February 2023 at 5:09pm |
Dai Guevara wrote:
Eastern outpost wrote:
aber-fan wrote:
Lincscarlet wrote:
Just seen their 9 run into an Italian shoulder then dive like Tom Daley holding his neck. Same as Sexton in game 1. Clear and obvious attempt to get a card. |
Absolutely right - even the Irish commentator more or less admitted the 9 was trying it on.
In general, do you think that refs 'prefer' - even if subconsciously - the 'big' teams in a match? I sort of suspect that is the case.
Evidence in today's game -
1. Italy make a superb line break - their man is tackled 5m for the Ireland line - Porter goes for a jackal, CLEARLY supports his weight on his arms before getting the ball.
Penalty - Ireland.
2. Italy 9 taken out late with a rib-tickler at a lineout. Nothing given.
3. The incident already mentioned where the Ireland 9 tried to get a YC for the Italy second row -penalty Ireland (should hae been nothing at all - or even apenalty to Italy for 'unsportsmanlike conduct'!)
Also, possibly a high tackle on the Italy 15, but no replay or TMO intervention... somehow, in Ireland whenever there is something (or often, nothing) you get a lot of slo-mo replays on the big screen - so long as it favours Ireland's case. You look long and hard to see a replay of Williams concussing Barclay with a forearm smash, because they choose not to show it. (Just the most blatant example of a well-honed policy.)
Other countries need to retaliate with equally biased TMO replay stuff!
Apart from that - great game - but blatant cheating does get my goat. |
Mike Adamson and these sorts of things go hand in hand too often, IMO.
I think it’s a competency issue and possibly supplemented by either not wanting too much help from his assistants or creating that impression inadvertently. I can understand not having much faith in the week in week out league, depending on who’s there, however, with Wayne Barnes and Craig Evans as assistants.
Having said that, how on earth is McCloskey still on the pitch after a forearm tackle on Capuozzo’s nose???
Adamson and competence akin to ball in hand and a knock on. |
How McCloskey is still allowed to play after his attempt to decapitate Rogers in the Ulster v Scarlets match is beyond me. |
Thought that was another culprit in that side of diplomatic immunity.
At least that’s less prevalent now with the appointment of less home-biased officials and co-workers.
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Posted: 25 February 2023 at 5:34pm |
Adam Beard flops on the floor and England get penalty every single time...
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In 1972, Roy Bergiers scored that try and said "that was for you lofty"
"All you have to decide is what to do with the time that is given to us"
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Posted: 25 February 2023 at 6:06pm |
lofty evans wrote:
Adam Beard flops on the floor and England get penalty every single time...
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For a moment, I thought he was in Rome 
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Posted: 25 February 2023 at 6:38pm |
lofty evans wrote:
Adam Beard flops on the floor and England get penalty every single time...
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he goes out of his way to find a speed bump to fall over and have a nice little nap
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Posted: 25 February 2023 at 6:41pm |
Sir Duckling Tuft wrote:
lofty evans wrote:
Adam Beard flops on the floor and England get penalty every single time...
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he goes out of his way to find a speed bump to fall over and have a nice little nap
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At least Rowlands can play in the RWC
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Posted: 25 February 2023 at 7:26pm |
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Beard and north are the most consistant Welsh players ...every game they are crap , but yet their pooness seems to be a blind spot for so many people
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Posted: 26 February 2023 at 12:18am |
Eastern outpost wrote:
lofty evans wrote:
Adam Beard flops on the floor and England get penalty every single time...
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For a moment, I thought he was in Rome |
for a moment I knew I posted in the wrong thread.
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In 1972, Roy Bergiers scored that try and said "that was for you lofty"
"All you have to decide is what to do with the time that is given to us"
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Posted: 26 February 2023 at 8:22am |
Eastern outpost wrote:
Dai Guevara wrote:
Eastern outpost wrote:
aber-fan wrote:
Lincscarlet wrote:
Just seen their 9 run into an Italian shoulder then dive like Tom Daley holding his neck. Same as Sexton in game 1. Clear and obvious attempt to get a card. |
Absolutely right - even the Irish commentator more or less admitted the 9 was trying it on.
In general, do you think that refs 'prefer' - even if subconsciously - the 'big' teams in a match? I sort of suspect that is the case.
Evidence in today's game -
1. Italy make a superb line break - their man is tackled 5m for the Ireland line - Porter goes for a jackal, CLEARLY supports his weight on his arms before getting the ball.
Penalty - Ireland.
2. Italy 9 taken out late with a rib-tickler at a lineout. Nothing given.
3. The incident already mentioned where the Ireland 9 tried to get a YC for the Italy second row -penalty Ireland (should hae been nothing at all - or even apenalty to Italy for 'unsportsmanlike conduct'!)
Also, possibly a high tackle on the Italy 15, but no replay or TMO intervention... somehow, in Ireland whenever there is something (or often, nothing) you get a lot of slo-mo replays on the big screen - so long as it favours Ireland's case. You look long and hard to see a replay of Williams concussing Barclay with a forearm smash, because they choose not to show it. (Just the most blatant example of a well-honed policy.)
Other countries need to retaliate with equally biased TMO replay stuff!
Apart from that - great game - but blatant cheating does get my goat. |
Mike Adamson and these sorts of things go hand in hand too often, IMO.
I think it’s a competency issue and possibly supplemented by either not wanting too much help from his assistants or creating that impression inadvertently. I can understand not having much faith in the week in week out league, depending on who’s there, however, with Wayne Barnes and Craig Evans as assistants.
Having said that, how on earth is McCloskey still on the pitch after a forearm tackle on Capuozzo’s nose???
Adamson and competence akin to ball in hand and a knock on. |
How McCloskey is still allowed to play after his attempt to decapitate Rogers in the Ulster v Scarlets match is beyond me. |
Thought that was another culprit in that side of diplomatic immunity.
At least that’s less prevalent now with the appointment of less home-biased officials and co-workers. |
Think the culprit was Gilroy. Agree with you EO about Adamson poor International ref.
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Posted: 26 February 2023 at 8:27am |
Well that Ireland game was a cracker. Fair play to Italy they really gave it a go. The Cannone brothers are some players. Excellently coached - they targeted the 13 channel as Ireland had two 12's playing with the late injury to Ringrose. Aki was all over the place in defence.
Ireland were given a scare & blew some great chances but Farrell will have learnt a huge amount. What continually impresses me is how they get their wingers involved as extra men floating around the 10. Their ability to take & give passes sets them apart from most other teams.
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