Scarlet Fever Llanelli Rugby Sport Wales Tickets Homepage
Forum Home Forum Home > SOCIAL > CHAT BOARD
  New Posts New Posts RSS Feed - Johnson
  FAQ FAQ  Forum Search   Register Register  Login Login


Johnson

 Post Reply Post Reply Page  <12345>
Author
Message
Legendinmybathroom View Drop Down
Veteran
Veteran
Avatar

Joined: 29 May 2017
Location: Burry Port
Status: Offline
Points: 3105
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Legendinmybathroom Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 June 2023 at 10:41am
Originally posted by GPR - Rochester GPR - Rochester wrote:

Last time I looked gentlemen it is is still meant to be a democracy - one person, one vote. 

But only if you have the right form of ID in England.  If you don’t have the right form of ID, you can’t vote for the opposition.

I just hope that when the report into whether he mislead parliament (I think we all know the answer to that) is released on Monday, it recommends that he’s banned from running as an MP again.
As long as he’s able to return to politics there’s always a risk that he could return to government and more worryingly to the position of prime minister - such is his popularity among not only a chuck of Tory voters but also Tory MPs and ministers.
Tories will forgive him for anything if it increases the likelihood of them getting into power again, regardless of whether he delivers for the people of the UK.  Like I said, a lot of politicians are only in politics for personal gain, not for the electorate/constituents they propose to represent.
Back to Top
Sponsored Links


Back to Top
scarletpimp View Drop Down
Veteran
Veteran


Joined: 22 November 2015
Location: llanelli
Status: Offline
Points: 2506
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote scarletpimp Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 June 2023 at 10:54am
Originally posted by Legendinmybathroom Legendinmybathroom wrote:

Originally posted by GPR - Rochester GPR - Rochester wrote:

Last time I looked gentlemen it is is still meant to be a democracy - one person, one vote. 

But only if you have the right form of ID in England.  If you don’t have the right form of ID, you can’t vote for the opposition.

I just hope that when the report into whether he mislead parliament (I think we all know the answer to that) is released on Monday, it recommends that he’s banned from running as an MP again.
As long as he’s able to return to politics there’s always a risk that he could return to government and more worryingly to the position of prime minister - such is his popularity among not only a chuck of Tory voters but also Tory MPs and ministers.
Tories will forgive him for anything if it increases the likelihood of them getting into power again, regardless of whether he delivers for the people of the UK.  Like I said, a lot of politicians are only in politics for personal gain, not for the electorate/constituents they propose to represent.

The above is the whole conundrum in a nutshell.
While he was popular and successful, Tories overlooked everything.
Once he was rumbled as being a dishonest charlatan, and popularity and electoral prospects declined , they couldn't get rid of him quick enough .
They (the Tories) cannot wash their grubby hands of him , and Truss...it was THEY, who elected both, and we know what happened afterwards.
I stood yer on tanner bank
Back to Top
GPR - Rochester View Drop Down
Veteran
Veteran
Avatar

Joined: 01 December 2014
Location: Rhydcymerau
Status: Offline
Points: 18633
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote GPR - Rochester Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 June 2023 at 10:56am
Originally posted by Oracle Oracle wrote:

But we need to get rid of the first past the post ..PR is a system that allows true democracy to exist ....


Totally agree.Thumbs Up Oracle this is becoming a very worrying trend.Confused
Back to Top
GPR - Rochester View Drop Down
Veteran
Veteran
Avatar

Joined: 01 December 2014
Location: Rhydcymerau
Status: Offline
Points: 18633
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote GPR - Rochester Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 June 2023 at 11:02am
Originally posted by Legendinmybathroom Legendinmybathroom wrote:

Originally posted by GPR - Rochester GPR - Rochester wrote:

Last time I looked gentlemen it is is still meant to be a democracy - one person, one vote. 

But only if you have the right form of ID in England.  If you don’t have the right form of ID, you can’t vote for the opposition.

I just hope that when the report into whether he mislead parliament (I think we all know the answer to that) is released on Monday, it recommends that he’s banned from running as an MP again.
As long as he’s able to return to politics there’s always a risk that he could return to government and more worryingly to the position of prime minister - such is his popularity among not only a chuck of Tory voters but also Tory MPs and ministers.
Tories will forgive him for anything if it increases the likelihood of them getting into power again, regardless of whether he delivers for the people of the UK.  Like I said, a lot of politicians are only in politics for personal gain, not for the electorate/constituents they propose to represent.

Not true legend - if you don't have the right form of ID you cannot vote for anyone. Surely this ID topic has been done to death by us - I am no great fan of Boris or indeed Trump but we don't need to sugar coat any facts to prove their dishonesty.

As for Boris being finished in British politics I am not convinced. The tories will probably get blasted at the next election, Sunak will fall on his sword & the tories will be looking for someone to get them back into power - I wouldn't even put ladram's fiver on it not being Boris. 
Back to Top
ap sior View Drop Down
Veteran
Veteran


Joined: 08 May 2005
Location: Wales
Status: Online
Points: 11330
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote ap sior Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 June 2023 at 11:28am
Originally posted by scarletpimp scarletpimp wrote:

Originally posted by Legendinmybathroom Legendinmybathroom wrote:

Originally posted by GPR - Rochester GPR - Rochester wrote:

Last time I looked gentlemen it is is still meant to be a democracy - one person, one vote. 

But only if you have the right form of ID in England.  If you don’t have the right form of ID, you can’t vote for the opposition.

I just hope that when the report into whether he mislead parliament (I think we all know the answer to that) is released on Monday, it recommends that he’s banned from running as an MP again.
As long as he’s able to return to politics there’s always a risk that he could return to government and more worryingly to the position of prime minister - such is his popularity among not only a chuck of Tory voters but also Tory MPs and ministers.
Tories will forgive him for anything if it increases the likelihood of them getting into power again, regardless of whether he delivers for the people of the UK.  Like I said, a lot of politicians are only in politics for personal gain, not for the electorate/constituents they propose to represent.

The above is the whole conundrum in a nutshell.
While he was popular and successful, Tories overlooked everything.
Once he was rumbled as being a dishonest charlatan, and popularity and electoral prospects declined , they couldn't get rid of him quick enough .
They (the Tories) cannot wash their grubby hands of him , and Truss...it was THEY, who elected both, and we know what happened afterwards.

Read an item yesterday, can't find it now, but since 2019, there have been 12 by-elections. Tories have lost 11. 

You'd therefore ask how popular is Boris now ?


Back to Top
Legendinmybathroom View Drop Down
Veteran
Veteran
Avatar

Joined: 29 May 2017
Location: Burry Port
Status: Offline
Points: 3105
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Legendinmybathroom Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 June 2023 at 11:43am
Originally posted by GPR - Rochester GPR - Rochester wrote:

Originally posted by Legendinmybathroom Legendinmybathroom wrote:

Originally posted by GPR - Rochester GPR - Rochester wrote:

Last time I looked gentlemen it is is still meant to be a democracy - one person, one vote. 

But only if you have the right form of ID in England.  If you don’t have the right form of ID, you can’t vote for the opposition.

I just hope that when the report into whether he mislead parliament (I think we all know the answer to that) is released on Monday, it recommends that he’s banned from running as an MP again.
As long as he’s able to return to politics there’s always a risk that he could return to government and more worryingly to the position of prime minister - such is his popularity among not only a chuck of Tory voters but also Tory MPs and ministers.
Tories will forgive him for anything if it increases the likelihood of them getting into power again, regardless of whether he delivers for the people of the UK.  Like I said, a lot of politicians are only in politics for personal gain, not for the electorate/constituents they propose to represent.

Not true legend - if you don't have the right form of ID you cannot vote for anyone. Surely this ID topic has been done to death by us - I am no great fan of Boris or indeed Trump but we don't need to sugar coat any facts to prove their dishonesty.

As for Boris being finished in British politics I am not convinced. The tories will probably get blasted at the next election, Sunak will fall on his sword & the tories will be looking for someone to get them back into power - I wouldn't even put ladram's fiver on it not being Boris. 

I know that, I’m just reiterating the findings from the last lot of local elections in England, where they found that it disproportionately affected the younger voters who were more likely to vote for any of the opposition.
Back to Top
scarletpimp View Drop Down
Veteran
Veteran


Joined: 22 November 2015
Location: llanelli
Status: Offline
Points: 2506
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote scarletpimp Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12 June 2023 at 11:40pm
Yet more waffle from Johnson. 
He has again attempted to get his best mates into the Lord's , but wanted Sunak to overrule the overseeing committee, who were not happy with Boris 's proposal. 
Just like that other overgrown  schoolboy  Trump, Johnson throws  his toys out of the plan,  when he doesn't  get  his  own  way .
PATHETIC, REALLY .


I stood yer on tanner bank
Back to Top
dr_martinov View Drop Down
Veteran
Veteran
Avatar

Joined: 06 August 2005
Location: Tycoch
Status: Offline
Points: 13279
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote dr_martinov Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13 June 2023 at 8:11am
Originally posted by scarletpimp scarletpimp wrote:

Yet more waffle from Johnson. 
He has again attempted to get his best mates into the Lord's , but wanted Sunak to overrule the overseeing committee, who were not happy with Boris 's proposal. 
Just like that other overgrown  schoolboy  Trump, Johnson throws  his toys out of the plan,  when he doesn't  get  his  own  way .
PATHETIC, REALLY .



Him and his supporters are pushing the conspiracy theory or Sunak's personal vendetta. It's not, he was found by a Tory majority standards committee to have deliberately mislead parliament. There is no way anyone who attended those gatherings, however briefly, could then honestly claim "rules were followed at all times". This is the bleedin' obvious and everyone knows this. It's funny, yet no surprise, that he has tried to invent further fictions, in this case that he was briefed to say all rules were followed, which the committee will find no evidence to support. 

I'm done talking about such a pathetic waste of a human being - till the next scandal! - but it amazes me the pro-Johnson papers cannot even report the facts properly. Well, in their headlines and sub-headlines at least. We talk about democracy on here and a free press which people can trust is paramount to that. Some of our paper owners are in fact Tory donors and even Lords, whilst a lot of our news stories in wide circulation media are actually quotes and opinions without any research, cross-examination or justification... i.e. effectively just gossip. I suspect there are actually now only a small number of Johnson supporters but they are very loud, amplified by the media. Just to create a story and sell their papers.

My final comment is to repeat exactly why Johnson had to resign as PM: he knowingly appointed a potential sexual offender into a position of power and forced his colleagues to lie on his behalf. Which they did until their lies were too obvious.

I have no clue why this has been forgotten.
Back to Top
scarletpimp View Drop Down
Veteran
Veteran


Joined: 22 November 2015
Location: llanelli
Status: Offline
Points: 2506
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote scarletpimp Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13 June 2023 at 10:03am
Originally posted by dr_martinov dr_martinov wrote:

Originally posted by scarletpimp scarletpimp wrote:

Yet more waffle from Johnson. 
He has again attempted to get his best mates into the Lord's , but wanted Sunak to overrule the overseeing committee, who were not happy with Boris 's proposal. 
Just like that other overgrown  schoolboy  Trump, Johnson throws  his toys out of the plan,  when he doesn't  get  his  own  way .
PATHETIC, REALLY .



Him and his supporters are pushing the conspiracy theory or Sunak's personal vendetta. It's not, he was found by a Tory majority standards committee to have deliberately mislead parliament. There is no way anyone who attended those gatherings, however briefly, could then honestly claim "rules were followed at all times". This is the bleedin' obvious and everyone knows this. It's funny, yet no surprise, that he has tried to invent further fictions, in this case that he was briefed to say all rules were followed, which the committee will find no evidence to support. 

I'm done talking about such a pathetic waste of a human being - till the next scandal! - but it amazes me the pro-Johnson papers cannot even report the facts properly. Well, in their headlines and sub-headlines at least. We talk about democracy on here and a free press which people can trust is paramount to that. Some of our paper owners are in fact Tory donors and even Lords, whilst a lot of our news stories in wide circulation media are actually quotes and opinions without any research, cross-examination or justification... i.e. effectively just gossip. I suspect there are actually now only a small number of Johnson supporters but they are very loud, amplified by the media. Just to create a story and sell their papers.

My final comment is to repeat exactly why Johnson had to resign as PM: he knowingly appointed a potential sexual offender into a position of power and forced his colleagues to lie on his behalf. Which they did until their lies were too obvious.

I have no clue why this has been forgotten.

Personally, I cannot wait to hear the committees verdict.
Those on the Parliamentary Standards  Committee,  loyal Tories , like Bernard Jenkin, most be horrified to hear what the muppet  Johnson has said  about this impartial,  and vital part of British  Democracy. 
I said in my previous  post, he is like a  pathetic  schoolboy, kicking off, because he does'nt like the harsh reality of his school report.
It's sickening  th honours Johnson  has bestowed on his mates like the cretin Rees -Mogg.  Fortunately,  the other major buffoon,  Dorries was denied, but would be in the Lords now, if Boris had his way. 
The honours system, like the Lords , should be abolished .
I stood yer on tanner bank
Back to Top
reesytheexile View Drop Down
Veteran
Veteran


Joined: 11 August 2012
Location: Machynys
Status: Offline
Points: 17404
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote reesytheexile Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13 June 2023 at 11:49am
And then the brilliant former PM of 49 days Liz Truss is claiming to have a set of ex PM honours list agreed isn’t she? She must have the hide of a rhinoceros! 
Back to Top
Oracle View Drop Down
Veteran
Veteran
Avatar

Joined: 19 September 2022
Location: North pole
Status: Offline
Points: 3959
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Oracle Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13 June 2023 at 12:53pm
And the brain of a gnat
Back to Top
scarletpimp View Drop Down
Veteran
Veteran


Joined: 22 November 2015
Location: llanelli
Status: Offline
Points: 2506
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote scarletpimp Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13 June 2023 at 10:13pm
Originally posted by reesytheexile reesytheexile wrote:

And then the brilliant former PM of 49 days Liz Truss is claiming to have a set of ex PM honours list agreed isn’t she? She must have the hide of a rhinoceros! 

I cannot fathom who I despise most Thatcher, Johnson or Truss !
HIde  rhinoceros us appropriate description for the three.
I stood yer on tanner bank
Back to Top
GPR - Rochester View Drop Down
Veteran
Veteran
Avatar

Joined: 01 December 2014
Location: Rhydcymerau
Status: Offline
Points: 18633
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote GPR - Rochester Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 14 June 2023 at 6:25am
Originally posted by scarletpimp scarletpimp wrote:

Originally posted by reesytheexile reesytheexile wrote:

And then the brilliant former PM of 49 days Liz Truss is claiming to have a set of ex PM honours list agreed isn’t she? She must have the hide of a rhinoceros! 

I cannot fathom who I despise most Thatcher, Johnson or Truss !
HIde  rhinoceros us appropriate description for the three.

There can be no comparisons drawn between Thatcher & the other two in my opinion. 
Back to Top
Oracle View Drop Down
Veteran
Veteran
Avatar

Joined: 19 September 2022
Location: North pole
Status: Offline
Points: 3959
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Oracle Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 14 June 2023 at 8:04am
If we had PR the country would look vastly different 
Back to Top
ap sior View Drop Down
Veteran
Veteran


Joined: 08 May 2005
Location: Wales
Status: Online
Points: 11330
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote ap sior Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 14 June 2023 at 6:39pm
Johnson just won't give up.

He's now saying the Bernard Jenkin had a lockdown party of his own to celebrate his wife's birthday.

Are there no lengths thst Johnson won't go to ? How does this attack on Jenkin exonerate Johnson from his own 'sins' ?
Back to Top
Eastern outpost View Drop Down
Rambler
Rambler
Avatar

Joined: 13 March 2012
Location: South Suffolk
Status: Offline
Points: 21793
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Eastern outpost Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 14 June 2023 at 8:35pm
Originally posted by ap sior ap sior wrote:

Johnson just won't give up.

He's now saying the Bernard Jenkin had a lockdown party of his own to celebrate his wife's birthday.

Are there no lengths thst Johnson won't go to ? How does this attack on Jenkin exonerate Johnson from his own 'sins' ?
It’s all very kids’ playground behaviour, too.

How on earth people voted for him to be Prime Minister etc has been beyond me for some considerable time.
In a world where you can be anything – Be Kind.
Back to Top
 Post Reply Post Reply Page  <12345>
  Share Topic   

Forum Jump Forum Permissions View Drop Down

Forum Software by Web Wiz Forums® version 12.04
Copyright ©2001-2021 Web Wiz Ltd.

This page was generated in 0.096 seconds.