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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote RR1972 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16 June 2023 at 10:04am
Bpjo will be back in some guise or other folk like him never stay out of the limelight for long, prob end up as a tv host!
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Another tosser on GB News 
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Originally posted by RR1972 RR1972 wrote:

Bpjo will be back in some guise or other folk like him never stay out of the limelight for long, prob end up as a tv host!

He basically was one when PM! But yes, he no doubt will stick around as there seem to be a decent number of people who find him entertaining. I think even I did back when he first appeared on HIGNFY but I never thought him suitable for any serious political role - on his very first appearance he was shown up for trying to get a fellow journalist beaten up! Plus he'll make serious cash back in the media so it's a given.
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Has anyone watched that babbling idiot Michael Gove on the Laura Kuensburg show this morning.
When questioned about the privilege committee’s report and the new video of a Christmas party at Downing Street, he firstly didn’t believe that the 2 people seen in the video should lose the honours they received last week in BOJOs honours list.  Secondly, whilst agreeing with the report, he didn’t agree with the findings, stating that he shouldn’t have received such a big sanction, and as a result he will abstain from voting the recommendations of the report through.
He should remember that the sanctions were only upped as a result of BOJOs reaction to the original report and recommendations, the fact that he attacked the report and the panel personally (in the press) before anyone else (inc the Tory party) had got a chance to see the report.

I have some concerns here, Sunak (being so weak) made the vote a free vote instead of a mandatory vote, meaning that all those who hope for a return to politics for Boris can either vote against the findings or just not turn up and vote.  Had he the backbone to make it mandatory, he could then whip them into voting for the findings or face having the whip removed - this was a power BOJO himself used on many occasions (probably more than any of predecessors) to force through certain policies or changes to government.
He now runs the risk of the Tory party not voting through the recommendations of the privileges committee’s report, or the vote being so close that he then leaves himself open to further criticism from the BOJO supporters within the party.
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Does anyone know where sunak has gone 
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That’s a very good question, he’s either still digesting the findings of the parliamentary privileges committees report into BOJOs misleading of parliament (which everyone knew happened but we needed an inquiry into it, at great cost to the taxpayers), or he’s finished digesting it and he’s in hiding, only to reemerge on Monday for the free vote.
It’s a free vote for Tory MPs, so I can see a lot abstaining, but I hope that enough opposition MPs attend and finish BOJOs political career off once and for all.
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Originally posted by Legendinmybathroom Legendinmybathroom wrote:

Has anyone watched that babbling idiot Michael Gove on the Laura Kuensburg show this morning.
When questioned about the privilege committee’s report and the new video of a Christmas party at Downing Street, he firstly didn’t believe that the 2 people seen in the video should lose the honours they received last week in BOJOs honours list.  Secondly, whilst agreeing with the report, he didn’t agree with the findings, stating that he shouldn’t have received such a big sanction, and as a result he will abstain from voting the recommendations of the report through.
He should remember that the sanctions were only upped as a result of BOJOs reaction to the original report and recommendations, the fact that he attacked the report and the panel personally (in the press) before anyone else (inc the Tory party) had got a chance to see the report.

I have some concerns here, Sunak (being so weak) made the vote a free vote instead of a mandatory vote, meaning that all those who hope for a return to politics for Boris can either vote against the findings or just not turn up and vote.  Had he the backbone to make it mandatory, he could then whip them into voting for the findings or face having the whip removed - this was a power BOJO himself used on many occasions (probably more than any of predecessors) to force through certain policies or changes to government.
He now runs the risk of the Tory party not voting through the recommendations of the privileges committee’s report, or the vote being so close that he then leaves himself open to further criticism from the BOJO supporters within the party.

Presumably LK pointed that out to him as any half-decent political journalist would? Actually, I think I know the answer to that. 


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Its no good Gove making empty apologies to the bereaved families, who lost coved ones to Covid, when we witness scenes from the Tory party central office , partying like no tomorrow, when everyone else locked down, obeying the rules. Gove should gave the moral fibre to do the right thing , and back the committee's recommendations. to the hilt !
The fact that he won't, and may abstain in the vote, sums up the Tories for what they are.
We are now faced , with a weak, spineless PM, and a Tory party ,at war with itself, while major problems, including the cost of living still plague ordinary people.
Its obscene we may have to wait a year before we  have the opportunity to remove this shower of poo, masquerading as a  serious political party.
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So the commons have voted 354 to 7 in favour of the recommendation of the parliamentary standards enquiry into BOJO misleading parliament.
Whilst it was unanimously approved by MPs, it must be noted that as there are 550 MPs in the commons that means that approximately 200 Tory MPs chose not to vote.  That just shows how seriously they take the report and how they are still in love with BOJO, and probably secretly hoping that he can make a comeback in the future and save them their jobs.
However, this is just narrow minded, as they are likely to lose their jobs at the next GE anyway, and if he ever tried to return to frontline politics I’m sure that the electorate will not forgive his failure as easily as the Tory MPs.


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Originally posted by Legendinmybathroom Legendinmybathroom wrote:

So the commons have voted 354 to 7 in favour of the recommendation of the parliamentary standards enquiry into BOJO misleading parliament.
Whilst it was unanimously approved by MPs, it must be noted that as there are 550 MPs in the commons that means that approximately 200 Tory MPs chose not to vote.  That just shows how seriously they take the report and how they are still in love with BOJO, and probably secretly hoping that he can make a comeback in the future and save them their jobs.
However, this is just narrow minded, as they are likely to lose their jobs at the next GE anyway, and if he ever tried to return to frontline politics I’m sure that the electorate will not forgive his failure as easily as the Tory MPs.

Well said Legend.! 
The question of course, is WHERE WAS SUNAK ?.The spineless wimp, was nowhere to be seen.
Its clear  that as PM, it was HIS RESPONSIBILITY, to be at the house, to ensure that the ethics of democracy, are safeguarded. Instead of doing the right thing he took the easy way out. He owed that to the families of those who sadly perished during Covid.
Instead petty party interests got in the way.
It sums him up and sums up the gut-wrenching rabble that call themselves Tories. Self Interest first, the country second(or maybe third).
Even today we had Johnson supporter's in Parliament claiming witch-hunt, and the fact the Standards and ethics committee  have no evidence to back it claims .

What planet are these people on????  We have Johnson making a number of false  statements, at the despatch box which only a total imbecile would say was correct, given the FACTS.
On top of this the committee have gathered evidence for over a year, interviewing many people.

What angers me to the extreme therefore , as much as the actions of Johnson himself, is the attitude of these supporters led by cheerleaders like Rees -Mogg and Dorries and a minority of the general public , who still love Johnson.
I would be quite happy to perform a lobotomy on these people, even without training Wink

The pressure needs to be cranked up now on the creaking shower of poo, masquerading as a political party. 
The general election cannot come quick enough



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Poor leadership from Sunak. Proper politicians are alive & well within the Tory ranks with Theresa May and Penny Mordaunt showing the way at the debate. As for 200 plus abstaining by choice or non attendance on such an important topic - they too should be barred from Westminster for a period of time to reflect on their responsibilities to their electorate. 
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Originally posted by GPR - Rochester GPR - Rochester wrote:

Poor leadership from Sunak. Proper politicians are alive & well within the Tory ranks with Theresa May and Penny Mordaunt showing the way at the debate. As for 200 plus abstaining by choice or non attendance on such an important topic - they too should be barred from Westminster for a period of time to reflect on their responsibilities to their electorate. 

Agree. Rees-Mogg was prattling on with his distinct blend of extreme Victorian poshness and utter contempt defending Johnson to the hilt and then apparently abstained! 

At least we can hopefully draw a line under this now - Johnson is where he belongs as a DM columnist and should never touch front line politics again.
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It’s interesting that a majority of the higher ranking government ministers chose to abstain inc Sunak, the Deputy PM, the Home Secretary and foreign secretary.   
Was this something to do with the fact that if they had voted through the recommendations they would be seen as hypocritical due to the fact that they served on BOJOs cabinet and as a result were complicit in everything that has come to light in this report/enquiry.
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