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Originally posted by Rubrum Rubrum wrote:

Sad.  Him I mean.
As is our reaction to his petulant and silly comments.
We know that he is being influenced.
We also know that a rugby players career is short, so he is chasing the money.
I do not regret his departure.
The Scarlets are strong enough to survive without a 'celebrity' player.

How can he be chasing money by going to Cardiff when his wage is determined by the pay banding system? He’s on exactly the same wage in Cardiff as he was on in Llanelli 
I still wake up late at night and think of what might have been when tim stimpson hit that jammy penalty1
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Originally posted by scarletnut scarletnut wrote:

Originally posted by Rubrum Rubrum wrote:

Sad.  Him I mean.
As is our reaction to his petulant and silly comments.
We know that he is being influenced.
We also know that a rugby players career is short, so he is chasing the money.
I do not regret his departure.
The Scarlets are strong enough to survive without a 'celebrity' player.

How can he be chasing money by going to Cardiff when his wage is determined by the pay banding system? He’s on exactly the same wage in Cardiff as he was on in Llanelli 

Precisely Steff. I fail to also see why our comments are deemed petulant & silly when a player clearly is underperforming. How can we compare the superb committment shown by players like Sione to that of Liam over the past two seasons? Bearing in mind that Liam was rejected by his home region I would have thought he at least owed the Scarlets some gratitude for giving him his chance.

For sure none of us could fault the sheer determination & will to succeed that Liam brought in his first contract with us, sadly that memory has been tarnished by the past two years. Far too often Welsh Internationals are guilty of forgetting their committment to their regions once they are Welsh regulars. Of course that does not apply across the board. Players like Cawdor, Tipuric, Faletau & Moriarty are examples of how it should be done. 
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I must not comment, I must not comment......
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Originally posted by GPR - Rochester GPR - Rochester wrote:

Originally posted by scarletnut scarletnut wrote:

Originally posted by Rubrum Rubrum wrote:

Sad.  Him I mean.
As is our reaction to his petulant and silly comments.
We know that he is being influenced.
We also know that a rugby players career is short, so he is chasing the money.
I do not regret his departure.
The Scarlets are strong enough to survive without a 'celebrity' player.

How can he be chasing money by going to Cardiff when his wage is determined by the pay banding system? He’s on exactly the same wage in Cardiff as he was on in Llanelli 

Precisely Steff. I fail to also see why our comments are deemed petulant & silly when a player clearly is underperforming. How can we compare the superb committment shown by players like Sione to that of Liam over the past two seasons? Bearing in mind that Liam was rejected by his home region I would have thought he at least owed the Scarlets some gratitude for giving him his chance.

For sure none of us could fault the sheer determination & will to succeed that Liam brought in his first contract with us, sadly that memory has been tarnished by the past two years. Far too often Welsh Internationals are guilty of forgetting their committment to their regions once they are Welsh regulars. Of course that does not apply across the board. Players like Cawdor, Tipuric, Faletau & Moriarty are examples of how it should be done. 


I'd take issue with this "only a short career" old chestnut.It's not.Age,just like a complete absence of any kind of form,is no barrier to staying at the very top of the professional game in Welsh rugby.
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Originally posted by Dic Penderyn Dic Penderyn wrote:

Originally posted by GPR - Rochester GPR - Rochester wrote:

Originally posted by scarletnut scarletnut wrote:

Originally posted by Rubrum Rubrum wrote:

Sad.  Him I mean.
As is our reaction to his petulant and silly comments.
We know that he is being influenced.
We also know that a rugby players career is short, so he is chasing the money.
I do not regret his departure.
The Scarlets are strong enough to survive without a 'celebrity' player.

How can he be chasing money by going to Cardiff when his wage is determined by the pay banding system? He’s on exactly the same wage in Cardiff as he was on in Llanelli 

Precisely Steff. I fail to also see why our comments are deemed petulant & silly when a player clearly is underperforming. How can we compare the superb committment shown by players like Sione to that of Liam over the past two seasons? Bearing in mind that Liam was rejected by his home region I would have thought he at least owed the Scarlets some gratitude for giving him his chance.

For sure none of us could fault the sheer determination & will to succeed that Liam brought in his first contract with us, sadly that memory has been tarnished by the past two years. Far too often Welsh Internationals are guilty of forgetting their committment to their regions once they are Welsh regulars. Of course that does not apply across the board. Players like Cawdor, Tipuric, Faletau & Moriarty are examples of how it should be done. 


I'd take issue with this "only a short career" old chestnut.It's not.Age,just like a complete absence of any kind of form,is no barrier to staying at the very top of the professional game in Welsh rugby.
Look at Halfpenny-lost count of the number of articles I've read about him-"Halfpenny pops the question"(he even got a photo of that)
"Halfpenny learns to run again"
"Halfpenny gets the Lego out"etc etc etc
.....but I barely remember the last time he played....and when he did,he was crap.
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Can we shut this bizarre thread down it’s being used to [beep] players off when they have given us some of the best years of there careers. It’s pointless let’s look forward and get behind the players.
For the record Leigh Halfpenny and Foxy are two of the best professionals Wales have ever had, for the youngsters to learn off these players is priceless. 

She asks why i still can't answer. I guess its in the blood.
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If it's just about youngsters learning,then it'd probably be cheaper to send them to Eton.
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Shock horror, players abilities fade when reaching the end of their careers. Who'd have thought it? Be good to concentrate on their many achievements. 
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Originally posted by Brainfart Brainfart wrote:

Shock horror, players abilities fade when reaching the end of their careers. Who'd have thought it? Be good to concentrate on their many achievements. 


I agree with every word you've written there.
It's a perfect explanation of why professional sportsmen should know when to call it a day.
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Originally posted by Why Why wrote:

Can we shut this bizarre thread down it’s being used to [beep] players off when they have given us some of the best years of there careers. It’s pointless let’s look forward and get behind the players.
For the record Leigh Halfpenny and Foxy are two of the best professionals Wales have ever had, for the youngsters to learn off these players is priceless. 


You can't simply have a thread closed down because you don't like or agree with the content 
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It’s not that I disagree with it it’s just pointless he’s gone now good luck to him. People are just using it to bad mouth other players who have served us well. 
She asks why i still can't answer. I guess its in the blood.
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I agree with every word you've written there.
It's a perfect explanation of why professional sportsmen should know when to call it a day.
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What concerns me is Foxy being made captain. Unless his performances improve then he shouldn't be first choice at 13 or even on the bench. There were times last season where he struggled to get the basics rights at all. 
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Clive Griffiths,Steve Bowling,Ian Jones,Luc Evans,Matt Cardey,Lee Byrne,Barry Davies,Morgan Stofdart,Garan Evans.
There's some full-backs who served us well.I can close my eyes and see again something each of them did in a game for the club.Can't say the same for Halfpenny.
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Originally posted by Dic Penderyn Dic Penderyn wrote:

Clive Griffiths,Steve Bowling,Ian Jones,Luc Evans,Matt Cardey,Lee Byrne,Barry Davies,Morgan Stofdart,Garan Evans.
There's some full-backs who served us well.I can close my eyes and see again something each of them did in a game for the club.Can't say the same for Halfpenny.
His defence has been immense at times. The loss v Toulon his tackle on his opposite number, making up a fair bit of ground. He's done that a hell of a lot for us. Covered hard yards to make the tackle. And many runs from deep with ball in hand being the catalyst for a fair few tries. 
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Originally posted by Brainfart Brainfart wrote:

Originally posted by Dic Penderyn Dic Penderyn wrote:

Clive Griffiths,Steve Bowling,Ian Jones,Luc Evans,Matt Cardey,Lee Byrne,Barry Davies,Morgan Stofdart,Garan Evans.
There's some full-backs who served us well.I can close my eyes and see again something each of them did in a game for the club.Can't say the same for Halfpenny.
His defence has been immense at times. The loss v Toulon his tackle on his opposite number, making up a fair bit of ground. He's done that a hell of a lot for us. Covered hard yards to make the tackle. And many runs from deep with ball in hand being the catalyst for a fair few tries. 

I think he'd struggle to remember that tackle himself as he knocked himself out again...
Sorry,but that's what full-backs do-they  cover a lot of yards in defence and run from deep.Halfpenny's meant to be a superstar and is paid accordingly.It's funny that anybody praising him simply celebrates the prosaic.For what it's worth,I lost interest in him whenhe lost his pace,and he lost his pace long before he came here.
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I think he'd struggle to remember that tackle himself as he knocked himself out again...
Sorry,but that's what full-backs do-they  cover a lot of yards in defence and run from deep.Halfpenny's meant to be a superstar and is paid accordingly.It's funny that anybody praising him simply celebrates the prosaic.For what it's worth,I lost interest in him when he lost his pace,and he lost his pace long before he came here.
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So he did his job then? And the element  of psychology placed on the opposition of not conceding penalties because of his range has also been a positive. 
Tackle technique definitely let him down, I'll agree there. 
Anyway onwards and upwards, Tom Rogers is the future. And what a player he may become. 

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