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    Posted: 14 November 2021 at 8:03am
Based on what I have seen this season to date I have tried to select a Lions 23. What it shows is how things can change in a few months & may also point to some, lets call them, strange decisions by Gats.

15. Keenan 14. Conway 13. Ringrose 12. Tuilagi 11. Lowe 10. Sexton (C) 9. Gibson-Park
1. Porter 2. Kelleher 3. Furlong 4. Ryan 5. Itoje 6. Doris 7. Curry 8. Conan

16. George 17. Marler 18. Sinckler 19. Beirne 20. Lawes 21. Price 22. Russell 23. Slade

There are some tough calls clearly with players like Freddie Steward, Marcus Smith, Josh van der Flier, DTH van der Merwe unlucky not to make it. I have never been a great fan of James Lowe who has been useful going forward but not so great going backwards but he must be one of the most improved players in the past 12 months. According to his coach he had a reality check last season during the 6 nations & proceeded to take the advice given, got himself a lot fitter & worked on his flaws and has now produced two outstanding displays culminating in a try saving rush tackle late yesterday - sheer class in all fairness. 

Not one Welsh player makes the squad because frankly none of them are good enough based on what I have seen this season.

Finally I have commented a lot about the Welsh Lions not getting back to playing enough before International camps etc etc. Pivac himself complains that fitness levels for some players like Wyn Jones are not good enough for top competition yet you look at the Irish players - most of whom will have played a similar number of games this season to the Welsh boys & they have now put together two fully committed superbly executed games where they blew away Japan with their offloading attacking game & had a similar outcome against the best team in the World - so something doesn't quite stack up. 
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Ireland have done well brilliantly in fact but they have all their players available for the whole autumn, they have few injuries at moment and they had sensible Autumn fixture list.
Contrast that to Wales players not being released playing All Blacks first up with no English based players, injuries by bucket load. 
Wales team be very different for six nations Liam LRZ North Johnny Williams Adams Biggar, Tomos, Faletau, Tuperic, Jenkins, Beard, AWJ, Francis, Ken and Wyn. 
That hell of side who will have had time together before six nations don’t write us off yet. 



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Originally posted by Why Why wrote:

Ireland have done well brilliantly in fact but they have all their players available for the whole autumn, they have few injuries at moment and they had sensible Autumn fixture list.
Contrast that to Wales players not being released for training playing All Blacks first up with no English based players, injuries by bucket load. 
Wales team be very different for six nations Liam LRZ North Johnny Williams Adams Biggar, Tomos, Faletau, Tuperic, Jenkins, Beard, AWJ, Francis, Ken and Wyn. 
That hell of side who will have had time together before six nations don’t write us off yet. 



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No welsh players would be in it on current form that’s for sure
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Originally posted by RR1972 RR1972 wrote:

No welsh players would be in it on current form that’s for sure

Pretty dire stuff vs Fiji today.
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Rubbish individual performances. Elias is having some game other than that its pretty bleak.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote totallybiasedscarlet Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 14 November 2021 at 4:58pm
Also the sight earlier of Fiji driving the Welsh scrum back ... 
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Incredible effort by LRZ
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Originally posted by EJPT EJPT wrote:

Incredible effort by LRZ

The boy's got gas to spare. Sparing Welsh blushes today to be fair.
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Elias  had a v good game no other forward shone
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Originally posted by RR1972 RR1972 wrote:

Elias  had a v good game no other forward shone

He's had a good game. Welsh forwards have struggled with Fiji at the breakdown. Just a bit slow and lacking cohesion.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote totallybiasedscarlet Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 14 November 2021 at 5:16pm
Nice one for Sanjay.
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A very flattering scorline for Wales today.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Eastern outpost Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 14 November 2021 at 5:43pm
Thought Ryan Elias was more of a likely choice for PoM.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote gaffer Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 14 November 2021 at 6:02pm
Dire from Wales - Elias, EJ and back three had decent games but the rest were pretty awful today. The starting props (inc Dillon Lewis) and the half-backs were particularly atrocious. Selection of an under powered back-row and poor decision making didn't help either. 

I wouldn't really want to see Carre, Tomkins, DLewis, Seb Davies anywhere near a Welsh shirt anytime soon. I'd also like to see a new forwards coach...
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Wil Chips Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 14 November 2021 at 6:12pm
Elias has put a very strong marker down to be a Wales No 1.
Thus far one of quite a limited number of positives in the AI campaign…Ellis Jenkins return ( and captaincy credentials) Basham bursting on the scene, McNichol’s solid showing, Sanjay and Cuthy today, Rowlands looks worth his place, as do Tomos and Wainwright.

I think we might have seen the Carre experiment parked after today, Jonny Williams doesn’t to tick Pivac’s boxes, bit unsure why, Wyn and Francis are licking their wounds after the SA scrum challenges, Beard is more 2020 than 2021 vintage ( I thought he would lead the line tbh). I’m also not sure what the best centre partnership is right now. Nothing seems settled there. Guys coming on are generally not adding value.
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