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GPR - Rochester
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For me get games against Bath, Bristol, Exeter & Gloucester for starters - home & away thats 8 fixtures; add in other regional A teams & you would soon fill the calendar with meaningful opposition.
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roy munster
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when is the 8 team league starting ?
I do think regional rugby has been sloppy in failing to draft unused players to play more games for their feeder clubs to the detriment of developing these players. So to talk now of dropping out to develop sounds like nonsense and hypocrisy
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ROYMOND MUNTER MBE (FOR SERVICES TO THE COMBOVER)
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They will certainly attract more supporters than currently go to watch the RFC and some good trips not to far away.
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She asks why i still can't answer. I guess its in the blood.
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RR1972
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Edited by RR1972 - 29 March 2023 at 10:19am |
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Gate12
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Cost is the main prohibitor here so I can't see the RFC playing anywhere outside of Wales/England and I'm not sure how many players outside of the academy will sign up for the RFC with fixtures unknown and likely very little to no money. You'd imagine they'd look to the other premiership teams or championship.
I'm not sure about this proposed new league, there's a couple of ways to do things and I'm unconvinced effectively having A teams in a ringfenced league is suitable for the game in Wales. I probably see 2 options: Option 1. New league with effectively A teams - Positives are they should be aligned well with the regions in terms of playing style, coaching, training and commercially, negatives are we're reducing the incentives for the regions to build relationships with clubs because the focus will be Academy and A team and there's no route for ambitious clubs to be semi professional. If the selected A teams are Llanelli, Swansea, Cardiff and Newport then we've alienated everyone outside of the regions nearest teams. Option 2. You have a semi professional premiership with relegation where costs are strictly controlled to a level which allows championship teams to be able to adjust to semi professional status (with union guidance and entry criteria) and all teams throughout the leagues must be aligned with a region so if they get promoted from lower leagues all the way up they have that relationship. The main positives are everyone has a chance to make it to the second level of Welsh rugby, it encourages the regions to develop relationships at all levels of the game and players play. The negatives are the regions have less control over players flittering between pro and semi pro and potentially the premiership wouldn't have any teams from a region in it (personally I think this incentivises good relationships with regional clubs). We've been somewhere between the 2 options for the last decade and not committed to either route fully, I'm more in favour of option 2 at the moment, I think it works better for Welsh rugby as a whole, we can look at other models but we've got go with something that suits our circumstances.
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greypower1
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Keep the faith
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Llanelli1963
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Dai Guevara
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I confess that I haven't seen much of Llanelli recently, but when I did see them they looked like a development side up against tough, experienced club players who played regularly together and who placed far more importance on winning than developing younger players. The Llanelli front five, in particular, found it very difficult to compete and give the promising backs a chance to show their skills and potential.
It must have been depressing for them to watch penalty after penalty concededand the opponents ruthlessly converting or kicking for the corners and driving over the line. If Llanelli go on to be a genuine development team they will be playing other similar sides whose main purpose will be to act as a conveyor belt to develop younger players for fully professional sides as in our recent match with Saracens. In this way it may be better for all concerned. Edited by Dai Guevara - 29 March 2023 at 12:08pm |
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PritchyTheScarlet
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We really did ourselves no favours by calling the team set up in 2003 'Llanelli RFC', did we? So much needless and avoidable confusion.
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“Gareth Edwards just ran 30 yards and got a Knighthood, I sidestepped five players and got arthritis in both knees.” - Benny
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supertaf
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The problem in welsh rugby generally is that the clubs dont think of themselves as vehicles for player development, in fact they actively dont want to lose their best players upwards to the regions. So many are set-up purely to win their league with zero interest in what's above. That is why the only real solution is a A type league where the players are all either full or part time pro's, playing to get into the first 23. No funding, no foresight though
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hoppy
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Understand that players were told last night that they'd need £250,000 to keep Llanelli going in the current format for next season.
Money that just doesn't exist at the moment with budgets tightening. |
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scarletsbeno1
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Out of interest who they going to be playing. And who’s going to be playing for them?
Notice Ben Williams the new 8 said his good buys on Twitter, is he on scarlets deal now or leaving?
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roy munster
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I disagree, the players are drafted to the clubs they arent forcing them to select them but the odds are they will as theyre probably better than the club player in that position . ...If the club player then wants to pout r get upset as you seem to be suggesting, them let him do so lol its just healthy competition
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ROYMOND MUNTER MBE (FOR SERVICES TO THE COMBOVER)
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roy munster
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Were just protecting players from competition ? This is all very odd
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Seagultaf
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I completely agree, Llanelli Scarlets has 150 years of history and that wont change. For me this 8 team league is an opportunity to promote the regional identity and attract support and buy in from the widest possible area. To achieve this, I would suggest that the Scarlets propose Carmarthen Quins and Llandovery as West Wales representatives in the new 8 team Premiership. I would also suggest that all Scarlets squad players should be dual registered with the Premiership team and play for them if available. It would also be great to share coaching ideas and personnel, so that the two junior clubs could more effectively develop the Scarlets of the future. This is not the end of Llanelli RFC, but it could be the beginning of a new regional rugby dawn in West Wales.
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lofty evans
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I get it Sir. History and its significance if we learn from it or not, or cherish or not, means a lot to an old fart like me. Like saying goodbye to an old faithful friend for whatever advantageous reasons, are not me, the World moves on at a frightening pace and for me not always for the better. So be it, |
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In 1972, Roy Bergiers scored that try and said "that was for you lofty"
"All you have to decide is what to do with the time that is given to us" |
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