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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote roy munster Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 04 September 2022 at 2:49pm
Truss ducked andrew neil as did bojo, sunak went on there and got roasted...Neil is probably a right winger but when it comes to cross examining these cardboard cut-out politicians from all parties, he is still numero uno
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Originally posted by Legendinmybathroom Legendinmybathroom wrote:

So Truss is too busy to appear in live TV.  Sounds like she’s taken a leaf out of BOJO’s book.  If I know I’ll get a grilling over my policies I’ll just run and hide and hope that the questions will go away and that the voters will forget.
Boris did it for the live leaders debate and even locked himself into a refrigerator to avoid speaking to a TV journalist.

That was more the Teresa May school of politics. Was doing so well in the polls that didn’t want to go on TV to risk it and let Amber Rudd (who?) go up instead. 

Turned out well for May 🙄 

The lack of courage in the Tory party is something to behold. I’m sure Putin is petrified 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote reesytheexile Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 04 September 2022 at 8:24pm
Originally posted by roy munster roy munster wrote:

Truss ducked andrew neil as did bojo, sunak went on there and got roasted...Neil is probably a right winger but when it comes to cross examining these cardboard cut-out  politicians from all parties, he is still numero uno

Neil is ruthless whoever he interviews. Does detailed research as well. 
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Originally posted by reesytheexile reesytheexile wrote:

Originally posted by roy munster roy munster wrote:

Truss ducked andrew neil as did bojo, sunak went on there and got roasted...Neil is probably a right winger but when it comes to cross examining these cardboard cut-out  politicians from all parties, he is still numero uno

Neil is ruthless whoever he interviews. Does detailed research as well. 

Going to be expensive for the public, funding all those fridges for them to hide in.
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Truss it is then, as expected.

One thing that is not being brought up about Johnson's departure is how Starmer's calm, cross-examining style in the House of Commons was a key factor in his political demise. The stories are largely about "Boris" the larger-than-life maverick character and how his personality was then his undoing, which has a lot of truth as well, but I kept up with a lot of their exchanges and it was Starmer who asked pertinent questions that got definite statements out of Johnson, itself an achievement, that then turned out to be false. Then when the lies were proven to be lies and the quantity of them simply too great, partygate, Patterson, Pincher, it all collapsed. 

But even now we're seeing rose-tinted spectacles for the man Johnson is and Prime Minister he was. The lies, corruption and cronyism weren't even mentioned by the BBC this morning, just all of this "enthusiastic showman, high energy, optimistic personality" rubbish. The man got himself sacked by lying repeatedly and was the first Prime Minister to have been found to officially break the law when in office. 
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Truss is not a flat out liar like bojo but neither is she as popular with the public (don’t ask me why but he is) she is the best candidate for labout to compette against,
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Originally posted by RR1972 RR1972 wrote:

Truss is not a flat out liar like bojo but neither is she as popular with the public (don’t ask me why but he is) she is the best candidate for labout to compette against,

As a political commentator pointed out, she's good at giving straight answers.... to a different question than was actually asked.

Useful skill, that. LOL
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That cheese clip tells me all i need to know!
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If you think the cheese speech is comedy gold, you should try searching for the one on opening new pork trade deals with the Far East, something she was clearly elated about striking.
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So we have Liz the saviour in charge for the next 2 years.
My concern is she can’t make up her mind about anything - she was a liberal now she’s a Tory, she she was anti Brexit and now she’s a brexiteer, she was anti monarchy and that has probably changed too (hope it did before her meeting with the queen at Balmoral earlier today).
She’s offended the leaders of the WAG and Scottish Parliament, she’s upset a lot of people in Northern Ireland with her rhetoric over the NI Protocol, so she’s got to start rebuilding a lot of bridges ( and that’s just within the UK), and that’s before you consider how many of the world leaders she’s managed to offend in her previous role as foreign secretary.

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She's Johnson but without the gags. She'll get more laughs with the stuff she says mind.
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Well personally I will judge her by her actions. Quite why she chose to give Boris such a rousing send off in her speech is beyond me - perhaps playing to the still staunch gallery of support for Boris within the party. Her cabinet appointments are interesting without much hint of a reconcilation towards Sunak & his vocal supporters. 

I cannot say I am too concerned at the loss from top office of people like Patel & Raab.
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Originally posted by GPR - Rochester GPR - Rochester wrote:

Well personally I will judge her by her actions. Quite why she chose to give Boris such a rousing send off in her speech is beyond me - perhaps playing to the still staunch gallery of support for Boris within the party. Her cabinet appointments are interesting without much hint of a reconcilation towards Sunak & his vocal supporters. 

I cannot say I am too concerned at the loss from top office of people like Patel & Raab.
She’s abhorrent and the party she represents is vile. The UK needs a proper Labour government. 
I still wake up late at night and think of what might have been when tim stimpson hit that jammy penalty1
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Sacking mercer is a bAd start a rare likeable tory. No election untill 2024 so well have suck it up i’m afraid.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote RR1972 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07 September 2022 at 9:06am
Originally posted by scarletnut scarletnut wrote:

Originally posted by GPR - Rochester GPR - Rochester wrote:

Well personally I will judge her by her actions. Quite why she chose to give Boris such a rousing send off in her speech is beyond me - perhaps playing to the still staunch gallery of support for Boris within the party. Her cabinet appointments are interesting without much hint of a reconcilation towards Sunak & his vocal supporters. 

I cannot say I am too concerned at the loss from top office of people like Patel & Raab.
She’s abhorrent and the party she represents is vile. The UK needs a proper Labour government. 
the only labour govt to win an election in 50 years was “new labour” a left wing labour is popular on line but does badly in elections. We just need a labour govt if they have to be more central i am fine with that as long as they win
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote GPR - Rochester Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07 September 2022 at 9:25am
Originally posted by scarletnut scarletnut wrote:

Originally posted by GPR - Rochester GPR - Rochester wrote:

Well personally I will judge her by her actions. Quite why she chose to give Boris such a rousing send off in her speech is beyond me - perhaps playing to the still staunch gallery of support for Boris within the party. Her cabinet appointments are interesting without much hint of a reconcilation towards Sunak & his vocal supporters. 

I cannot say I am too concerned at the loss from top office of people like Patel & Raab.
She’s abhorrent and the party she represents is vile. The UK needs a proper Labour government. 

Well I am glad you are not sitting on the fence SteffLOL. Define proper Labour government - therein lies the problem Labour has faced for many, many years. The days of Nye Bevan & James Callaghan are long gone. I fear that proper Labour politicians will not get elected in our country in this day and age. Andy Burnham, for me, has the appeal required to get elected. Only when elected can real Labour policies, many of which McDonald got right, be put into practice. 
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