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Isn't the intention surely to keep the game moving with as much ball play as possible? If so then it's a retrograde step to bring this negative rule in. What's wrong with them 😡?
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still haven't found the change in the law
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Can anyone text Scarletman and get him on here ? 

Anyone have a direct line to Nigel Owens or Whitehouse ?
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I've always thought a drop goal is a knock on as the ball leaves the hand going forward and hits the ground fractionally before it's kicked.
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Can anyone post a clip of the incident please as I have not been able to see the game as yet ?
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Originally posted by scarletman scarletman wrote:

Can anyone post a clip of the incident please as I have not been able to see the game as yet ?

Have you tried S4C CLIC ?
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Originally posted by ap sior ap sior wrote:

Originally posted by scarletman scarletman wrote:

Can anyone post a clip of the incident please as I have not been able to see the game as yet ?

Have you tried S4C CLIC ?

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Originally posted by scarletman scarletman wrote:

Originally posted by ap sior ap sior wrote:

Originally posted by scarletman scarletman wrote:

Can anyone post a clip of the incident please as I have not been able to see the game as yet ?

Have you tried S4C CLIC ?

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Unfortunately, Scrum V didn't show it... when you get a chance, the S4C replay of the whole game on BBC iPlayer has the incident, with the match clock stopped on 21.03... the incident occurs around 39 min into the programme. Your opinion will be valued!
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Watched a lot of games on the weekend, similar incidents in many games but none had the same outcome as ours.
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Originally posted by aber-fan aber-fan wrote:

Originally posted by scarletman scarletman wrote:

Originally posted by ap sior ap sior wrote:

Originally posted by scarletman scarletman wrote:

Can anyone post a clip of the incident please as I have not been able to see the game as yet ?

Have you tried S4C CLIC ?

Not from work Confused

Unfortunately, Scrum V didn't show it... when you get a chance, the S4C replay of the whole game on BBC iPlayer has the incident, with the match clock stopped on 21.03... the incident occurs around 39 min into the programme. Your opinion will be valued!

Just sneaked a look (thanks for the timings) aber, 
Baffled to say the least !! ConfusedShockedConfusedConfusedShocked !!

This incident will make some interesting conversations at all the Referee Society meetings this month !

A knock-on occurs when a player loses possession of the ball and it goes forward, or when a player hits the ball forward with the hand or arm, or when the ball hits the hand or arm and goes forward, and the ball touches the ground or another player before the original player can catch it.
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Originally posted by scarletman scarletman wrote:

Originally posted by aber-fan aber-fan wrote:

Originally posted by scarletman scarletman wrote:

Originally posted by ap sior ap sior wrote:

Originally posted by scarletman scarletman wrote:

Can anyone post a clip of the incident please as I have not been able to see the game as yet ?

Have you tried S4C CLIC ?

Not from work Confused

Unfortunately, Scrum V didn't show it... when you get a chance, the S4C replay of the whole game on BBC iPlayer has the incident, with the match clock stopped on 21.03... the incident occurs around 39 min into the programme. Your opinion will be valued!

Just sneaked a look (thanks for the timings) aber, 
Baffled to say the least !! ConfusedShockedConfusedConfusedShocked !!

This incident will make some interesting conversations at all the Referee Society meetings this month !

A knock-on occurs when a player loses possession of the ball and it goes forward, or when a player hits the ball forward with the hand or arm, or when the ball hits the hand or arm and goes forward, and the ball touches the ground or another player before the original player can catch it.

Many thanks for your insight SM. 

I really hope that Greg Garner makes a statement/issues a directive to referees stating whether it was the correct decision or not, and explains his decision. For all parties concerned I think that would be the sensible way forward.
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Originally posted by ap sior ap sior wrote:

Originally posted by scarletman scarletman wrote:

Originally posted by aber-fan aber-fan wrote:

Originally posted by scarletman scarletman wrote:

Originally posted by ap sior ap sior wrote:

Originally posted by scarletman scarletman wrote:

Can anyone post a clip of the incident please as I have not been able to see the game as yet ?

Have you tried S4C CLIC ?

Not from work Confused

Unfortunately, Scrum V didn't show it... when you get a chance, the S4C replay of the whole game on BBC iPlayer has the incident, with the match clock stopped on 21.03... the incident occurs around 39 min into the programme. Your opinion will be valued!

Just sneaked a look (thanks for the timings) aber, 
Baffled to say the least !! ConfusedShockedConfusedConfusedShocked !!

This incident will make some interesting conversations at all the Referee Society meetings this month !

A knock-on occurs when a player loses possession of the ball and it goes forward, or when a player hits the ball forward with the hand or arm, or when the ball hits the hand or arm and goes forward, and the ball touches the ground or another player before the original player can catch it.

Many thanks for your insight SM. 

I really hope that Greg Garner makes a statement/issues a directive to referees stating whether it was the correct decision or not, and explains his decision. For all parties concerned I think that would be the sensible way forward.

I'm wondering how the next SBW or FOXY tap pass will be viewed ?
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Originally posted by scarletman scarletman wrote:

Originally posted by ap sior ap sior wrote:

Originally posted by scarletman scarletman wrote:

Originally posted by aber-fan aber-fan wrote:

Originally posted by scarletman scarletman wrote:

Originally posted by ap sior ap sior wrote:

Originally posted by scarletman scarletman wrote:

Can anyone post a clip of the incident please as I have not been able to see the game as yet ?

Have you tried S4C CLIC ?

Not from work Confused

Unfortunately, Scrum V didn't show it... when you get a chance, the S4C replay of the whole game on BBC iPlayer has the incident, with the match clock stopped on 21.03... the incident occurs around 39 min into the programme. Your opinion will be valued!

Just sneaked a look (thanks for the timings) aber, 
Baffled to say the least !! ConfusedShockedConfusedConfusedShocked !!

This incident will make some interesting conversations at all the Referee Society meetings this month !

A knock-on occurs when a player loses possession of the ball and it goes forward, or when a player hits the ball forward with the hand or arm, or when the ball hits the hand or arm and goes forward, and the ball touches the ground or another player before the original player can catch it.

Many thanks for your insight SM. 

I really hope that Greg Garner makes a statement/issues a directive to referees stating whether it was the correct decision or not, and explains his decision. For all parties concerned I think that would be the sensible way forward.

I'm wondering how the next SBW or FOXY tap pass will be viewed ?

That point was made in commentary. In one sense, Parkes was in control of the ball as he clearly knocked it down to Elias in order to carry on the move. S4C commentators stated that had SBW or another AB done that then we'd be applauding his skill and quick thinking !!

The irony here is that Parkes is a New Zealander playing in the NH !!!!
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Hadleigh knocked it forward with his hand or arm.
It touched another player before the original player (Hadleigh) caught it.
Technically was it therefore the correct decision?
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Originally posted by trident trident wrote:

Hadleigh knocked it forward with his hand or arm.
It touched another player before the original player (Hadleigh) caught it.
Technically was it therefore the correct decision?

Interesting point you raise. You are the first to point this out. Can you tell us which player the ball hit before Hadleigh 'caught' it ? 
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That's my point really, Hadleigh didn't 'catch' it did he. Whether he 'controlled' it is another thing, I'd argue he did, in tapping it back to a team mate, but the law says 'catch'
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