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   Excellent post :, please keep us updated . Thank you!
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Originally posted by Stradeyboyo Stradeyboyo wrote:

Afternoon all, further to my post last week which was welcomed by most (Lofty Evans amongst them) and some who thanked me privately, they asked that any future information be shared, for all on here to dissect and use to draw conclusions on the situation at our club. 

Fifita and Lousi (as previously mentioned) have informed the club of their intention to leave at the end of the season (Lousi has requested an early release in Feb / March which is currently being considered. It now transpires, this is not only because of the situation at the club, but also the treatment of Sione Kalamafoni, a player who quite frankly carried us at stages during his time at the club. The Tongan's are a very loyal bunch and have not taken kindly to the treatment he has received and the derogatory offer that he was made both before and after his French move collapsed. Who was responsible for that?

The club have, last week and this, held urgent meetings to try and resolve the issue of giving Peel an extended three year contract which was signed only a few weeks ago. They are desperate for this not be leaked due to the backlash they will face. This is to the point of even not disclosing it to their usual outlet (reporter at the WM) and instead, next November, breaking it during the Autumn internationals that Peel has signed a two year extension....which will of course not be the case. They really are at a loss of how to handle this as it was not envisaged that we would lose to Black Lion, Ospreys and Dragons!

Hardy has signed for Cardiff.

Basham was last week shown around the facilities at PYS and is expected to sign in the next week or so.

Question to forum members....what would you expect to the minimum criteria / skill set of a GM of Rugby? Surely they would have at  bare minimum, either had to have played and / or coached the game to a reasonable standard so that he / she has a rugby background or alternatively, have an excellent business background with clear view and plan on how best to run this particular arm of the company? What does ours have? Unless I'm grossly mistaken, he was a PE teacher at Coleg Sir Gar, from that he was then given the responsibility of running the academy, a role which he failed badly at until the appointment of the Academy Director which was facilitated by Gareth Jenkins, as he could clearly see the faults which needed urgent attention! He was then moved into a secretarial role for Pivac and Short, and at the end of their tenure, he became GM of rugby.....since which time we have seen a steady decline of our great club; something that cannot continue under any circumstances!! The term 'self preservation' springs to mind where he is concerned!!

I'm off to pack for Clermont, so wish you all a great weekend if you're travelling and hopefully we can put some well overdue respect back into the jersey.


I’d be over the moon with Basham mind, I know people don’t like him for his thuggish behaviour at times, but he’s one hell of a player on his day and better than anything we currently have at 7.
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Originally posted by Stradeyboyo Stradeyboyo wrote:

Afternoon all, further to my post last week which was welcomed by most (Lofty Evans amongst them) and some who thanked me privately, they asked that any future information be shared, for all on here to dissect and use to draw conclusions on the situation at our club. 

Fifita and Lousi (as previously mentioned) have informed the club of their intention to leave at the end of the season (Lousi has requested an early release in Feb / March which is currently being considered. It now transpires, this is not only because of the situation at the club, but also the treatment of Sione Kalamafoni, a player who quite frankly carried us at stages during his time at the club. The Tongan's are a very loyal bunch and have not taken kindly to the treatment he has received and the derogatory offer that he was made both before and after his French move collapsed. Who was responsible for that?

The club have, last week and this, held urgent meetings to try and resolve the issue of giving Peel an extended three year contract which was signed only a few weeks ago. They are desperate for this not be leaked due to the backlash they will face. This is to the point of even not disclosing it to their usual outlet (reporter at the WM) and instead, next November, breaking it during the Autumn internationals that Peel has signed a two year extension....which will of course not be the case. They really are at a loss of how to handle this as it was not envisaged that we would lose to Black Lion, Ospreys and Dragons!

Hardy has signed for Cardiff.

Basham was last week shown around the facilities at PYS and is expected to sign in the next week or so.

Question to forum members....what would you expect to the minimum criteria / skill set of a GM of Rugby? Surely they would have at  bare minimum, either had to have played and / or coached the game to a reasonable standard so that he / she has a rugby background or alternatively, have an excellent business background with clear view and plan on how best to run this particular arm of the company? What does ours have? Unless I'm grossly mistaken, he was a PE teacher at Coleg Sir Gar, from that he was then given the responsibility of running the academy, a role which he failed badly at until the appointment of the Academy Director which was facilitated by Gareth Jenkins, as he could clearly see the faults which needed urgent attention! He was then moved into a secretarial role for Pivac and Short, and at the end of their tenure, he became GM of rugby.....since which time we have seen a steady decline of our great club; something that cannot continue under any circumstances!! The term 'self preservation' springs to mind where he is concerned!!

I'm off to pack for Clermont, so wish you all a great weekend if you're travelling and hopefully we can put some well overdue respect back into the jersey.


Thanks for that boyo. Have a great trip.
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Originally posted by crj89 crj89 wrote:

Originally posted by Stradeyboyo Stradeyboyo wrote:

Afternoon all, further to my post last week which was welcomed by most (Lofty Evans amongst them) and some who thanked me privately, they asked that any future information be shared, for all on here to dissect and use to draw conclusions on the situation at our club. 

Fifita and Lousi (as previously mentioned) have informed the club of their intention to leave at the end of the season (Lousi has requested an early release in Feb / March which is currently being considered. It now transpires, this is not only because of the situation at the club, but also the treatment of Sione Kalamafoni, a player who quite frankly carried us at stages during his time at the club. The Tongan's are a very loyal bunch and have not taken kindly to the treatment he has received and the derogatory offer that he was made both before and after his French move collapsed. Who was responsible for that?

The club have, last week and this, held urgent meetings to try and resolve the issue of giving Peel an extended three year contract which was signed only a few weeks ago. They are desperate for this not be leaked due to the backlash they will face. This is to the point of even not disclosing it to their usual outlet (reporter at the WM) and instead, next November, breaking it during the Autumn internationals that Peel has signed a two year extension....which will of course not be the case. They really are at a loss of how to handle this as it was not envisaged that we would lose to Black Lion, Ospreys and Dragons!

Hardy has signed for Cardiff.

Basham was last week shown around the facilities at PYS and is expected to sign in the next week or so.

Question to forum members....what would you expect to the minimum criteria / skill set of a GM of Rugby? Surely they would have at  bare minimum, either had to have played and / or coached the game to a reasonable standard so that he / she has a rugby background or alternatively, have an excellent business background with clear view and plan on how best to run this particular arm of the company? What does ours have? Unless I'm grossly mistaken, he was a PE teacher at Coleg Sir Gar, from that he was then given the responsibility of running the academy, a role which he failed badly at until the appointment of the Academy Director which was facilitated by Gareth Jenkins, as he could clearly see the faults which needed urgent attention! He was then moved into a secretarial role for Pivac and Short, and at the end of their tenure, he became GM of rugby.....since which time we have seen a steady decline of our great club; something that cannot continue under any circumstances!! The term 'self preservation' springs to mind where he is concerned!!

I'm off to pack for Clermont, so wish you all a great weekend if you're travelling and hopefully we can put some well overdue respect back into the jersey.


I’d be over the moon with Basham mind, I know people don’t like him for his thuggish behaviour at times, but he’s one hell of a player on his day and better than anything we currently have at 7.

Beg to differ - we have three better 7's already at PYS. Clearly surplus to requirements at Newport & no queue of English clubs after him says it all for me. Injury & error prone thug.
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Originally posted by GPR - Rochester GPR - Rochester wrote:

Originally posted by Stradeyboyo Stradeyboyo wrote:

Afternoon all, further to my post last week which was welcomed by most (Lofty Evans amongst them) and some who thanked me privately, they asked that any future information be shared, for all on here to dissect and use to draw conclusions on the situation at our club. 

Fifita and Lousi (as previously mentioned) have informed the club of their intention to leave at the end of the season (Lousi has requested an early release in Feb / March which is currently being considered. It now transpires, this is not only because of the situation at the club, but also the treatment of Sione Kalamafoni, a player who quite frankly carried us at stages during his time at the club. The Tongan's are a very loyal bunch and have not taken kindly to the treatment he has received and the derogatory offer that he was made both before and after his French move collapsed. Who was responsible for that?

The club have, last week and this, held urgent meetings to try and resolve the issue of giving Peel an extended three year contract which was signed only a few weeks ago. They are desperate for this not be leaked due to the backlash they will face. This is to the point of even not disclosing it to their usual outlet (reporter at the WM) and instead, next November, breaking it during the Autumn internationals that Peel has signed a two year extension....which will of course not be the case. They really are at a loss of how to handle this as it was not envisaged that we would lose to Black Lion, Ospreys and Dragons!

Hardy has signed for Cardiff.

Basham was last week shown around the facilities at PYS and is expected to sign in the next week or so.

Question to forum members....what would you expect to the minimum criteria / skill set of a GM of Rugby? Surely they would have at  bare minimum, either had to have played and / or coached the game to a reasonable standard so that he / she has a rugby background or alternatively, have an excellent business background with clear view and plan on how best to run this particular arm of the company? What does ours have? Unless I'm grossly mistaken, he was a PE teacher at Coleg Sir Gar, from that he was then given the responsibility of running the academy, a role which he failed badly at until the appointment of the Academy Director which was facilitated by Gareth Jenkins, as he could clearly see the faults which needed urgent attention! He was then moved into a secretarial role for Pivac and Short, and at the end of their tenure, he became GM of rugby.....since which time we have seen a steady decline of our great club; something that cannot continue under any circumstances!! The term 'self preservation' springs to mind where he is concerned!!

I'm off to pack for Clermont, so wish you all a great weekend if you're travelling and hopefully we can put some well overdue respect back into the jersey.


Thanks for that boyo. Have a great trip.

Pinch of salt with the source, but I don’t see these clubs being interested in Dan Davis or Leatherbarrow? Maybe back to Llandeilo is Dan Davis’s best option with his record. 

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We’ve got good opensides in Josh and Dan, but their injury records are not reliable.

Gutting to lose Lousi and Fifita, without a doubt two of our best forwards in recent years.
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Our GM also completed an MBA in Sports Management about 18 months ago which was a wise move should be look to move elsewhere. He’s well involved in the WRU / PRB working parties as well and hard to prize out with no replacement nominees. I can’t see any change there. 
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Originally posted by Tony Clifton Tony Clifton wrote:

We’ve got good opensides in Josh and Dan, but their injury records are not reliable.

Gutting to lose Lousi and Fifita, without a doubt two of our best forwards in recent years.
They are so injury prone and this is all injuries incurred at club not international level. If Basham joined it would be a step forward for us. 
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Why would we sign someone who is not first choice at the Dragons? If Saracens are offering him a deal why the hell is he looking around PYS - it doesn't make any sense.The article above basically lists all the Internationals who are either out of contract in May '24 or May '25.  If I was pushed to choose my money is on boyo every time. 
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  Maybe Basham wants to continue playing for Wales . Not forgetting  all English Premiership teams are in huge debt .
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Basham is a hamdy player covers 6 7 and 8, hasn’t kicked on as much as i hoped but he is defintley a talent
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With regards to our Director of Rugby/General Manager, we have someone who is so far out of his depth for tbe position he has ruined the club.

The damage he has caused is going to take YEARS to recover from but the recovery will only begin if we get rid of him. 
If he continues in his role, we will continue on this downward spiral until we hit the very point of no return. 

We need someone with pro rugby experience, business management experience and be able to demonstrate good people management skills. 

We need someone who that can not only plan but put plans into action. At the moment, Daniels either has an awful plan or no plan at all and is guess working it all. 
Our academyhas suffered for years...heck he even released Jac Morgan twice...Wales captain! The list is endless on the mismanagement of the squad and zero planning. 

The board surely can see the demise of the squad since being crowned champions and the blatant mismanagement since. So I have to ask the question...what does he need to do to be removed from the role?



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He’s above Macleod for me as he’s proven himself on the international stage. Macleod always seems to break down for whatever reason. 
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Thanks Stradeyboyo for the post... It's a real shame about Fifita and Lousi (and Kal). Even in the darkest of times of late they have provided high points. Lousi in particular has been consistently outstanding for us and the injuries have only really come this season. 

Hardy to Cardiff doesn't bother me. It's a good fit for him I think. Archie will do well, and maybe even Harri Williams back at some point...

My take on Basham - would be happy to sign him if the money was right. I don't think he's a natural thug... I think he's the kind of tough player who brain farts sometimes. 

Leatherbarrow has been a revelation but I'm still unclear what his ceiling is. Ben Williams continually improves but looks a 6 or 7 to me. Dan Davies is so talented but very injury prone. MacLeod, although a 7 initially is clearly an 8 now that covers the back row. So depth chart currently (without the leavers) something like:

6: Taine Plumtree, Ben Williams, Iwan Shenton
7: Dan Davies, Teddy Leatherbarrow, Luca Giannini
8: Josh M, Carwyn T, Will Plessis?

Arguably Basham would be first choice in one of the back row positions if any of Taine, Dan or Josh aren't playing, and on form, would give them good competition.
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PE SA he just seems to have something on the board. Until he's gone there will be no improvement.
It's obvious the players have lost faith in management and coaches. Our best players want to leave early (2tongans)
Squad has been totally mismanaged for years and now we are seeing the fruits of this.
The Board are the only people who can sort this out. But they are not even talking to Crys. Very fearful of this outcome
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Disappointed if true what was has been stated with regard Kalamafoni. We seemed to have had a good bond with our Tongan players.
Very short sighted from management who have broken the relationship.
Hope it's not broken.
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