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    Posted: 15 November 2012 at 9:14am
Anyone any thoughts on this election today ?  
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Is it good or bad GS to have one..
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My personal view is that it,s become to political. Policing is about serving the public regardless of politics.
It,s an expensive process and that money could have been spent elsewhere, also as it has become political, people are voting for parties not individuals. If this works the govt who are not popular will take credit for it, however as most people are unhappy with this govt, will vote against them and if that elected person falls out or fails to deliver, govt will simParc y Scarletsay, this is what this party brings to the table
 
Also policing will change and a lot of people have a vested interest in private firms that want to invest into policing. Look at how g4s messed up at the Olympics but this is the future and will happen. I fear for the safety of the public and i accept cuts etc have to be made, but there are ways and means to do that, without putting the public at risk ...by the way a lot of mp,s and govt officials have those business interests   
 
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Originally posted by geordie scarlet geordie scarlet wrote:

My personal view is that it,s become to political. Policing is about serving the public regardless of politics.
It,s an expensive process and that money could have been spent elsewhere, also as it has become political, people are voting for parties not individuals. If this works the govt who are not popular will take credit for it, however as most people are unhappy with this govt, will vote against them and if that elected person falls out or fails to deliver, govt will simParc y Scarletsay, this is what this party brings to the table
 
Also policing will change and a lot of people have a vested interest in private firms that want to invest into policing. Look at how g4s messed up at the Olympics but this is the future and will happen. I fear for the safety of the public and i accept cuts etc have to be made, but there are ways and means to do that, without putting the public at risk ...by the way a lot of mp,s and govt officials have those business interests   
 
why didnt you write all that in your first post GS? Had to laugh the way you politely waited for lofty to ask your opinion, you must have been itching to have a rant,no offence, just funny.Wink
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Originally posted by roy munster roy munster wrote:

Originally posted by geordie scarlet geordie scarlet wrote:

My personal view is that it,s become to political. Policing is about serving the public regardless of politics.
It,s an expensive process and that money could have been spent elsewhere, also as it has become political, people are voting for parties not individuals. If this works the govt who are not popular will take credit for it, however as most people are unhappy with this govt, will vote against them and if that elected person falls out or fails to deliver, govt will simParc y Scarletsay, this is what this party brings to the table
 
Also policing will change and a lot of people have a vested interest in private firms that want to invest into policing. Look at how g4s messed up at the Olympics but this is the future and will happen. I fear for the safety of the public and i accept cuts etc have to be made, but there are ways and means to do that, without putting the public at risk ...by the way a lot of mp,s and govt officials have those business interests   
 
why didnt you write all that in your first post GS? Had to laugh the way you politely waited for lofty to ask your opinion, you must have been itching to have a rant,no offence, just funny.Wink
 
LOL i started typing a response and just went off on one, i was initially gauging whether people would be voting, not how but whether they would be, anyway ...and relax LOL
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bloody waste of time and money.. I won't be voting....
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Originally posted by roy munster roy munster wrote:

Originally posted by geordie scarlet geordie scarlet wrote:

My personal view is that it,s become to political. Policing is about serving the public regardless of politics.
It,s an expensive process and that money could have been spent elsewhere, also as it has become political, people are voting for parties not individuals. If this works the govt who are not popular will take credit for it, however as most people are unhappy with this govt, will vote against them and if that elected person falls out or fails to deliver, govt will simParc y Scarletsay, this is what this party brings to the table
 
Also policing will change and a lot of people have a vested interest in private firms that want to invest into policing. Look at how g4s messed up at the Olympics but this is the future and will happen. I fear for the safety of the public and i accept cuts etc have to be made, but there are ways and means to do that, without putting the public at risk ...by the way a lot of mp,s and govt officials have those business interests   
 
why didnt you write all that in your first post GS? Had to laugh the way you politely waited for lofty to ask your opinion, you must have been itching to have a rant,no offence, just funny.Wink
 
I respect GS so would rather know his viewpoint, because in fairness this change means zero to me, as someone said in work he only had one slip from one candidate through his letterbox and because no one had knock on the door or even posted anything, he would vot for that person, who ever it was.
 
A PC view would be welcomed instead of the bullshit we hear on the news in my view.
 
 
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Originally posted by lofty evans lofty evans wrote:

Originally posted by roy munster roy munster wrote:

Originally posted by geordie scarlet geordie scarlet wrote:

My personal view is that it,s become to political. Policing is about serving the public regardless of politics.
It,s an expensive process and that money could have been spent elsewhere, also as it has become political, people are voting for parties not individuals. If this works the govt who are not popular will take credit for it, however as most people are unhappy with this govt, will vote against them and if that elected person falls out or fails to deliver, govt will simParc y Scarletsay, this is what this party brings to the table
 
Also policing will change and a lot of people have a vested interest in private firms that want to invest into policing. Look at how g4s messed up at the Olympics but this is the future and will happen. I fear for the safety of the public and i accept cuts etc have to be made, but there are ways and means to do that, without putting the public at risk ...by the way a lot of mp,s and govt officials have those business interests   
 
why didnt you write all that in your first post GS? Had to laugh the way you politely waited for lofty to ask your opinion, you must have been itching to have a rant,no offence, just funny.Wink
 
I respect GS so would rather know his viewpoint, because in fairness this change means zero to me, as someone said in work he only had one slip from one candidate through his letterbox and because no one had knock on the door or even posted anything, he would vot for that person, who ever it was.
 
A PC view would be welcomed instead of the bullshit we hear on the news in my view.
 
 
Seeing your a jaxk muccer now , local policing is what you want reduced isnt itLOL
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Originally posted by SMELLYMIKE SMELLYMIKE wrote:

Originally posted by lofty evans lofty evans wrote:

Originally posted by roy munster roy munster wrote:

Originally posted by geordie scarlet geordie scarlet wrote:

My personal view is that it,s become to political. Policing is about serving the public regardless of politics.
It,s an expensive process and that money could have been spent elsewhere, also as it has become political, people are voting for parties not individuals. If this works the govt who are not popular will take credit for it, however as most people are unhappy with this govt, will vote against them and if that elected person falls out or fails to deliver, govt will simParc y Scarletsay, this is what this party brings to the table
 
Also policing will change and a lot of people have a vested interest in private firms that want to invest into policing. Look at how g4s messed up at the Olympics but this is the future and will happen. I fear for the safety of the public and i accept cuts etc have to be made, but there are ways and means to do that, without putting the public at risk ...by the way a lot of mp,s and govt officials have those business interests   
 
why didnt you write all that in your first post GS? Had to laugh the way you politely waited for lofty to ask your opinion, you must have been itching to have a rant,no offence, just funny.Wink
 
I respect GS so would rather know his viewpoint, because in fairness this change means zero to me, as someone said in work he only had one slip from one candidate through his letterbox and because no one had knock on the door or even posted anything, he would vot for that person, who ever it was.
 
A PC view would be welcomed instead of the bullshit we hear on the news in my view.
 
 
Seeing your a jaxk muccer now , local policing is what you want reduced isnt itLOL
 
 
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Edited by lofty evans - 15 November 2012 at 3:07pm
In 1972, Roy Bergiers scored that try and said "that was for you lofty"

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Not voting Geordie, sadly I'm quite apathetic and think many will be.
 
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haven't had a single flyer through the door from any of the 8 standees... why should I bother to go and vote for them if they can't be bothered to contact me...
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Trouble is Sal, only the policitical parties candidate has the money to lobby people. The independents just can't afford to do so, so it clearly isn't a level playing field.
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It would have been nice to have known who the hell these people were...Voting for an unknown quantity is ludicrous
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my work union have texting me flat out to vote for a labour candidate but I really just can't be arsed .
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Originally posted by rolly rolly wrote:

my work union have texting me flat out to vote for a labour candidate but I really just can't be arsed .
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Agree with many of the earlier posts.
 
This is effectively a move to politicise the police service. This is not a measure the public is demanding.
I reckon turnout will be around 15%.
The police areas make it impractical for an independent to mail or canvass so I expect political candidates will prevail.
The only information I saw on candidates was on the PCC website which was poorly advertised.
 
I always thought that one of the reasons we did not have a national police service was to make it less prone to political influence, sadly this measure runs counter to that principle.
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