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can we get back to rugby please. getting pretty boring
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Some of the threads do get overly political and it does make it a hard read. 
I enjoy reading political content but when I want too, not when I come for rugby stuff.

Sometimes things just naturally mix and there will be instances where rugby and politics do mix.
It’s not as if you’re going to get a ban for making an odd comment. I believe these ‘bans’ will be for those who try to purposefully turn things political.

I’m hoping that posts like “I hate the oil4wales logo because of the monarchy and what it represents” will still be accepted.
It’s when you start going into detail and segwaying the thread that things need addressing.
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Originally posted by Oracle Oracle wrote:

I'm sorry you don't like political views , as it affects us all in all facets of life ...often they may be added as an attempt to lighten the conversation or a an in joke of a conversation . Other times it's a vent by a poster at the frustration of perhaps a personal situation .
The forum used to be a family affair (or that's what some of us thought , perhaps foolishly ) but obviously the strong arm tactics by yourself in the latest post , seems to contradict that point .
I'm not sure as to your tactics but debate and sometimes passionate debate is not a bad thing , but within 24 hrs the passion as subsided and all posters are friends again .
As Mr Chips said there is nothing going on with welsh rugby currently , so posting can encompass all types of topic .
Your Draconian response to many posters on here is so so disappointing , and I'm sure that a lot of posters will be confused by it ....Maybe you have been privately messaged by certain posters , but again your that's your business not ours ....
So what does the future hold for ordinary members , a potential ban for talking about certain topics , the sword of Damocles hanging over everyone , will ensure the end of this site , which would be a shame ......
Perhaps more frightingly you have taken it apon yourself to be become Llanelli's version of Elon musk , where political views that don't align with yours are censored......
Will we be seeing a new name ,if so can I suggest not using the title of 'X' but use 'Y' because I sense that is what most of the posters will be asking is the reason behind this strange behaviour ...
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This forum is a family affair and a rather polite one exactly because no politics or swearing are allowed.

I'd refer you to Gwlad if you want to give (and receive) a dosis of either. Which is fine, just not what this site has ever been (or the last 15 years at least)
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Let's have a rugby discussion then, but limiting the comments to one narrow rugby topic will be like telling fellow drinkers in a pub that they can only comment on the price of beer or shut up.
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Originally posted by Dai Guevara Dai Guevara wrote:

Let's have a rugby discussion then, but limiting the comments to one narrow rugby topic will be like telling fellow drinkers in a pub that they can only comment on the price of beer or shut up.
It’s oil for Wales logo if you disagree with it I suggest you protest outside their offices-and the offices of the WRU. It’s a local company supporting a local team, I bet they chose the logo not because as you say it highlights English suppression of the Welsh but because it is an emblem used by the Welsh rugby team. 
Why does everything have to have an agenda to it. 
She asks why i still can't answer. I guess its in the blood.
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Originally posted by Exkixu Exkixu wrote:

Originally posted by Oracle Oracle wrote:

I'm sorry you don't like political views , as it affects us all in all facets of life ...often they may be added as an attempt to lighten the conversation or a an in joke of a conversation . Other times it's a vent by a poster at the frustration of perhaps a personal situation .
The forum used to be a family affair (or that's what some of us thought , perhaps foolishly ) but obviously the strong arm tactics by yourself in the latest post , seems to contradict that point .
I'm not sure as to your tactics but debate and sometimes passionate debate is not a bad thing , but within 24 hrs the passion as subsided and all posters are friends again .
As Mr Chips said there is nothing going on with welsh rugby currently , so posting can encompass all types of topic .
Your Draconian response to many posters on here is so so disappointing , and I'm sure that a lot of posters will be confused by it ....Maybe you have been privately messaged by certain posters , but again your that's your business not ours ....
So what does the future hold for ordinary members , a potential ban for talking about certain topics , the sword of Damocles hanging over everyone , will ensure the end of this site , which would be a shame ......
Perhaps more frightingly you have taken it apon yourself to be become Llanelli's version of Elon musk , where political views that don't align with yours are censored......
Will we be seeing a new name ,if so can I suggest not using the title of 'X' but use 'Y' because I sense that is what most of the posters will be asking is the reason behind this strange behaviour ...
What a start for a Monday morning 

Unlesss you had another user name before, you joined less than a year ago.

This forum is a family affair and a rather polite one exactly because no politics or swearing are allowed.

I'd refer you to Gwlad if you want to give (and receive) a dosis of either. Which is fine, just not what this site has ever been (or the last 15 years at least)
The Oracle/Smelly Mike are old legends on SF and it’s a shame to see someone feel that they have to go but if you feel it’s not right for you any longer then I respect their decision to leave 

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Originally posted by Why Why wrote:

Originally posted by Dai Guevara Dai Guevara wrote:

Let's have a rugby discussion then, but limiting the comments to one narrow rugby topic will be like telling fellow drinkers in a pub that they can only comment on the price of beer or shut up.

It’s oil for Wales logo if you disagree with it I suggest you protest outside their offices-and the offices of the WRU. It’s a local company supporting a local team, I bet they chose the logo not because as you say it highlights English suppression of the Welsh but because it is an emblem used by the Welsh rugby team. 
Why does everything have to have an agenda to it. 


Ah yes, Oil for Wales is so infatuated by the WRU's brilliant policies and performance that it had to copy their logo. Why didn't I think of that?
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I was pleased to note from their website that within the next 6 months Oil4Wales is rebranding as Green4 Wales and using a form of vegetable oils as oil certainly for domestic use . The three feathers will be green not red and there are a couple of green leaves on the logo. Good phased step forward 

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Are there a few topics with political posts that I’ve missed? I only saw it on the kit thread and it was hardly prime minister’s question time. 
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Originally posted by Dai Guevara Dai Guevara wrote:

Originally posted by Why Why wrote:

Originally posted by Dai Guevara Dai Guevara wrote:

Let's have a rugby discussion then, but limiting the comments to one narrow rugby topic will be like telling fellow drinkers in a pub that they can only comment on the price of beer or shut up.

It’s oil for Wales logo if you disagree with it I suggest you protest outside their offices-and the offices of the WRU. It’s a local company supporting a local team, I bet they chose the logo not because as you say it highlights English suppression of the Welsh but because it is an emblem used by the Welsh rugby team. 
Why does everything have to have an agenda to it. 


Ah yes, Oil for Wales is so infatuated by the WRU's brilliant policies and performance that it had to copy their logo. Why didn't I think of that?
You are like a politician,  where did I say that, you really can be quite silly at times. 
She asks why i still can't answer. I guess its in the blood.
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Originally posted by Why Why wrote:

Originally posted by Dai Guevara Dai Guevara wrote:

Originally posted by Why Why wrote:

Originally posted by Dai Guevara Dai Guevara wrote:

Let's have a rugby discussion then, but limiting the comments to one narrow rugby topic will be like telling fellow drinkers in a pub that they can only comment on the price of beer or shut up.

It’s oil for Wales logo if you disagree with it I suggest you protest outside their offices-and the offices of the WRU. It’s a local company supporting a local team, I bet they chose the logo not because as you say it highlights English suppression of the Welsh but because it is an emblem used by the Welsh rugby team. 
Why does everything have to have an agenda to it. 


Ah yes, Oil for Wales is so infatuated by the WRU's brilliant policies and performance that it had to copy their logo. Why didn't I think of that?

You are like a politician,  where did I say that, you really can be quite silly at times. 


As usual, name calling comes when you run out of arguments.
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Originally posted by Dai Guevara Dai Guevara wrote:

Originally posted by Why Why wrote:

Originally posted by Dai Guevara Dai Guevara wrote:

Originally posted by Why Why wrote:

Originally posted by Dai Guevara Dai Guevara wrote:

Let's have a rugby discussion then, but limiting the comments to one narrow rugby topic will be like telling fellow drinkers in a pub that they can only comment on the price of beer or shut up.

It’s oil for Wales logo if you disagree with it I suggest you protest outside their offices-and the offices of the WRU. It’s a local company supporting a local team, I bet they chose the logo not because as you say it highlights English suppression of the Welsh but because it is an emblem used by the Welsh rugby team. 
Why does everything have to have an agenda to it. 


Ah yes, Oil for Wales is so infatuated by the WRU's brilliant policies and performance that it had to copy their logo. Why didn't I think of that?

You are like a politician,  where did I say that, you really can be quite silly at times. 


As usual, name calling comes when you run out of arguments.

Dai - I think we can all understand your anti Oil4Wales logo stance & in my opinion you were perfectly entitled to make your comments on the new kit thread. Unfortunately Oracle - my old sparring partner - took the issue a little too far for which, let us all agree, he has some previous.

Personally I will be sad to see him go as overall I have enjoyed my banter with him. However his leaving has nothing to do with unfair or dictatorial rules just good common sense application of the rules by which we all abide. 
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Originally posted by reesytheexile reesytheexile wrote:

Originally posted by Exkixu Exkixu wrote:

Originally posted by Oracle Oracle wrote:

I'm sorry you don't like political views , as it affects us all in all facets of life ...often they may be added as an attempt to lighten the conversation or a an in joke of a conversation . Other times it's a vent by a poster at the frustration of perhaps a personal situation .
The forum used to be a family affair (or that's what some of us thought , perhaps foolishly ) but obviously the strong arm tactics by yourself in the latest post , seems to contradict that point .
I'm not sure as to your tactics but debate and sometimes passionate debate is not a bad thing , but within 24 hrs the passion as subsided and all posters are friends again .
As Mr Chips said there is nothing going on with welsh rugby currently , so posting can encompass all types of topic .
Your Draconian response to many posters on here is so so disappointing , and I'm sure that a lot of posters will be confused by it ....Maybe you have been privately messaged by certain posters , but again your that's your business not ours ....
So what does the future hold for ordinary members , a potential ban for talking about certain topics , the sword of Damocles hanging over everyone , will ensure the end of this site , which would be a shame ......
Perhaps more frightingly you have taken it apon yourself to be become Llanelli's version of Elon musk , where political views that don't align with yours are censored......
Will we be seeing a new name ,if so can I suggest not using the title of 'X' but use 'Y' because I sense that is what most of the posters will be asking is the reason behind this strange behaviour ...
What a start for a Monday morning 

Unlesss you had another user name before, you joined less than a year ago.

This forum is a family affair and a rather polite one exactly because no politics or swearing are allowed.

I'd refer you to Gwlad if you want to give (and receive) a dosis of either. Which is fine, just not what this site has ever been (or the last 15 years at least)
The Oracle/Smelly Mike are old legends on SF and it’s a shame to see someone feel that they have to go but if you feel it’s not right for you any longer then I respect their decision to leave 

Now that's a name I haven't heard in a long time...

I can't quite reconcile one poster with the other mind, but each to their own. I hardly post anymore and people change. The forum, for the most part, has not. I prefer it that way.
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Originally posted by Dai Guevara Dai Guevara wrote:

Originally posted by Why Why wrote:

Originally posted by Dai Guevara Dai Guevara wrote:

Originally posted by Why Why wrote:

Originally posted by Dai Guevara Dai Guevara wrote:

Let's have a rugby discussion then, but limiting the comments to one narrow rugby topic will be like telling fellow drinkers in a pub that they can only comment on the price of beer or shut up.

It’s oil for Wales logo if you disagree with it I suggest you protest outside their offices-and the offices of the WRU. It’s a local company supporting a local team, I bet they chose the logo not because as you say it highlights English suppression of the Welsh but because it is an emblem used by the Welsh rugby team. 
Why does everything have to have an agenda to it. 


Ah yes, Oil for Wales is so infatuated by the WRU's brilliant policies and performance that it had to copy their logo. Why didn't I think of that?

You are like a politician,  where did I say that, you really can be quite silly at times. 


As usual, name calling comes when you run out of arguments.
Do you actually read what is written and what you reply. 
She asks why i still can't answer. I guess its in the blood.
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Originally posted by Why Why wrote:

Originally posted by Dai Guevara Dai Guevara wrote:

Originally posted by Why Why wrote:

Originally posted by Dai Guevara Dai Guevara wrote:

Originally posted by Why Why wrote:

Originally posted by Dai Guevara Dai Guevara wrote:

Let's have a rugby discussion then, but limiting the comments to one narrow rugby topic will be like telling fellow drinkers in a pub that they can only comment on the price of beer or shut up.

It’s oil for Wales logo if you disagree with it I suggest you protest outside their offices-and the offices of the WRU. It’s a local company supporting a local team, I bet they chose the logo not because as you say it highlights English suppression of the Welsh but because it is an emblem used by the Welsh rugby team. 
Why does everything have to have an agenda to it. 


Ah yes, Oil for Wales is so infatuated by the WRU's brilliant policies and performance that it had to copy their logo. Why didn't I think of that?

You are like a politician,  where did I say that, you really can be quite silly at times. 


As usual, name calling comes when you run out of arguments.

Do you actually read what is written and what you reply. 

How dare you call me a politician and silly at that!!!
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It's quiet simple if you have a political point you want to make just go on a political forum. It's not hard to understand. 
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