After speaking to a lot of people out in Ulster, it is obvious that the message of what (or who) the Supporters Trust is hasn't got through.

Just to clarify. The Supporters Trust obtained a mandate from the members of the Scarlets present in the open meeting in September to go ahead with its formation.

It is not a clique as anyone is free (and is encouraged) to join and even put themselves up for election to the various posts that are needed.

It is not a fan club. We have no link to the squad and wish to exert no influence over the playing side of things. If anyone wishes to rant about any disappointing performances or players, the Trust is not the place to do it.

It IS a link to the club as we will have regular meetings with the club management who have already been very supportive of our aims. We have met with SG about 5 times already and with HE twice. We are determined to be independent of the management, but recognise the need to have a good working relationship.

It IS a proper legal company (Industrial & Provident) that is registered and has an official address. We are directed by a Government company called "Supporters Direct". Have a look at their website to see what it is all about. http://www.supporters-direct.org/ - http://www.supporters-direct.org/

Many other clubs have Trusts (rugby and football), and these organise discussion between fans and the management in a constructive way. We wish to encourage the regional community to support the Scarlets and facilitate wider involvement as a means of integrating supporters. We will raise funds for the Scarlets - not the first team, but for sundry things such as the Academy and junior teams. Other Trusts have achieved things like paying for physiotherapy equipment, better audio visual for the fans, better seats in the stand etc. In fact, some other Trusts now run their clubs due to severe financial problems (Brentford FC, I think is an example).

We will be looking to move to a new stadium in 2008 (WAG allowing!) and we, the fans, can influence the matchday experience we expect from that new stadium and have our say. The club has been far more responsive to the fans since Richard Jones joined, and he is a big fan himself. The Trust has an excellent rapport with Richard, who has worked tirelessly to give the fans what they want.

We have already formed a board to see us through the launch on January 24th and there will be new elections in September to formalise these positions. Any member of the Trust can put themselves up - indeed, they will be welcomed (it is hard work!).

As for the launch - as I say, it will be on Jan 24th in the Tetley Suite at Stradey (7:30pm). We have had provisional agreement from a few old players and are encouraging others to attend. We hope that Ray Gravell will link the whole evening and there will be raffle and auction for prizes and memorabilia. We are also trying to get Phil to allow some current squad members to be there, but it is difficult due to other committments - but we are hopeful.

The cost to join the Trust was suggested as the cost of our lowest price adult ticket (£15 I believe). We have reduced that by 50% and are asking for just £10. Part of this will go towards a certified share in the "company", renewable annually, and the rest will go towards fundraising. OAPs will be £5 and children £1 (children cannot become shareholders due to legal reasons, hence the nominal cost).

Please DO come along and support the future of your region, in a way that gives you a voice.

If anyone has any questions, then ask here and we will post answers on this thread.

This IS your chance to get involved and get your voice heared in a way which WILL make a difference.

Be a part of the future at the Scarlets, and enhance the the link between the fans and the club, something which has been lacking in the past. 

Come along to the Launch, you'll enjoy the night, and bring your friends as well.

If we cant make it to the Launch can we still join the trust at a later date?

Of course DD, Trust membership will be open to everyone at any time, and not restricted in ANY way to those who can get to the Launch.

Make it if you can, but I apppreciate that because of where you live and work it may be difficult for you.

Scarletrover wrote: Of course DD, Trust membership will be open to everyone at any time, and not restricted in ANY way to those who can get to the Launch. Make it if you can, but I apppreciate that because of where you live and work it may be difficult for you.

Thanks

Ill try and finish early to get down there in time

DgembaDgemba wrote: Scarletrover wrote: Of course DD, Trust membership will be open to everyone at any time, and not restricted in ANY way to those who can get to the Launch. Make it if you can, but I apppreciate that because of where you live and work it may be difficult for you. Thanks Ill try and finish early to get down there in time

Noce one DD, (It's even open to Scotsmen)

Scarletrover wrote: DgembaDgemba wrote: Scarletrover wrote: Of course DD, Trust membership will be open to everyone at any time, and not restricted in ANY way to those who can get to the Launch. Make it if you can, but I apppreciate that because of where you live and work it may be difficult for you. Thanks Ill try and finish early to get down there in time Noce one DD, (It's even open to Scotsmen)

 thats good i thought i'd have to leave him at the gates again

i'll be there

is it possible for someone to design a poster to download so people can put them up to ensure maximum awareness of it? (in workplaces for example) a simple one would do with brief points on what the trust is.

Betterhalf wrote: I'll come if Abbey sorts out a babysitter!

I'm sure she will, her dad's too busy! 

I think what needs to be emphasised is that this is not a clique or a closed little club but is open to everyone - member/season ticket holder or not.

We have just worked to get the Trust off the ground as it seems like a good idea to bring the Scarlets closer to the fans. There is a huge welcome for anyone that wants to get more involved - I can't stress that enough. Several extra people joined the working party that were not involved before the open meeting in September and there will be open elections later this year where anyone can put themselves up for the vote if they want.

Come along on the 24th and see exactly what we are trying to achieve and help us take it forward. Again, this is not a clique.

Would there be a membership fee attached to the trust ?

The fact i live some 400 miles away from Llanelli has its difficulties,however i would be more than willing to contribute to such a good cause.

geordie scarlet wrote: Would there be a membership fee attached to the trust ? The fact i live some 400 miles away from Llanelli has its difficulties,however i would be more than willing to contribute to such a good cause.

£10, of which £1 is for a share in the company and the rest is for fundraising.

After the launch, membership applications will be available on the (under-construction) website.

Many thanks.I will await the details and there will be £10 from the North East winging its way to the trust.

geordie scarlet wrote: Many thanks.I will await the details and there will be £10 from the North East winging its way to the trust.

Excellent, and thanks for your support. We will publish the details of the website when it is launched.

Taffscarlet wrote: Well done to all the guys - and ladies of course - that have worked so hard to get this off the ground.   It's an exciting venture, let's hope it takes off big style. There's no excuse for not joining really - it's a democratic body with clear rules, so everyone will have their say.

And importantly, although it has been set up with the agreement of, and with the full blessing of the Club Management, it is, and will always be, a fully autonomous body, answerable ONLY to it's members, and will ONLY carry out the wishes of that membership.

As a working group, we see the role of a Trust as a way for EVERY fan to get his or her voice heared, in a way that will make a difference. Helping to further the cause of the Scarlets, whilst assisting that development in any way that 1) We are able to, and 2) Within the guidelines voted for by the membership. Not as a vehicle to undermine the Club in any way 

Remember - the more people that join, the better our fundraising, the more the donations from individuals/businesses - the more money the Trust will have to spend on things to support the club/supporters.

The bigger this gets, the more we can do.

I've been pc-less for a few days! I really hope that lots of you can make it on Wednesday we are hoping it will be a great night! Alun will be explaining more about how trusts work on the night so hopefully all of your questions will be answered. We all have the best interests of the Scarlets at heart and hopefully the trust will be a way we can work together to improve things.

I'd also like to echo what the others have said the club have been incredibly supportive of the Trust,  thanks to WW as i've spent alot of time nagging him in the last few weeks!

bump

Abbey wrote: After speaking to a lot of people out in Ulster, it is obvious that the message of what (or who) the Supporters Trust is hasn't got through. Just to clarify. The Supporters Trust obtained a mandate from the members of the Scarlets present in the open meeting in September to go ahead with its formation. It is not a clique as anyone is free (and is encouraged) to join and even put themselves up for election to the various posts that are needed. It is not a fan club. We have no link to the squad and wish to exert no influence over the playing side of things. If anyone wishes to rant about any disappointing performances or players, the Trust is not the place to do it. It IS a link to the club as we will have regular meetings with the club management who have already been very supportive of our aims. We have met with SG about 5 times already and with HE twice. We are determined to be independent of the management, but recognise the need to have a good working relationship. It IS a proper legal company (Industrial & Provident) that is registered and has an official address. We are directed by a Government company called "Supporters Direct". Have a look at their website to see what it is all about. http://www.supporters-direct.org/ - http://www.supporters-direct.org/ Many other clubs have Trusts (rugby and football), and these organise discussion between fans and the management in a constructive way. We wish to encourage the regional community to support the Scarlets and facilitate wider involvement as a means of integrating supporters. We will raise funds for the Scarlets - not the first team, but for sundry things such as the Academy and junior teams. Other Trusts have achieved things like paying for physiotherapy equipment, better audio visual for the fans, better seats in the stand etc. In fact, some other Trusts now run their clubs due to severe financial problems (Brentford FC, I think is an example). We will be looking to move to a new stadium in 2008 (WAG allowing!) and we, the fans, can influence the matchday experience we expect from that new stadium and have our say. The club has been far more responsive to the fans since Richard Jones joined, and he is a big fan himself. The Trust has an excellent rapport with Richard, who has worked tirelessly to give the fans what they want. We have already formed a board to see us through the launch on January 24th and there will be new elections in September to formalise these positions. Any member of the Trust can put themselves up - indeed, they will be welcomed (it is hard work!). As for the launch - as I say, it will be on Jan 24th in the Tetley Suite at Stradey (7:30pm). We have had provisional agreement from a few old players and are encouraging others to attend. We hope that Ray Gravell will link the whole evening and there will be raffle and auction for prizes and memorabilia. We are also trying to get Phil to allow some current squad members to be there, but it is difficult due to other committments - but we are hopeful. The cost to join the Trust was suggested as the cost of our lowest price adult ticket (?15 I believe). We have reduced that by 50% and are asking for just ?10. Part of this will go towards a certified share in the "company", renewable annually, and the rest will go towards fundraising. OAPs will be ?5 and children ?1 (children cannot become shareholders due to legal reasons, hence the nominal cost). Please DO come along and support the future of your region, in a way that gives you a voice. If anyone has any questions, then ask here and we will post answers on this thread.

salmidach wrote: keeps the topic at the top Jarr

ah, i see. it's just the norm to use bump then. though i could put, sham 69 or totty and smell

A bit over the top since it's a sticky though!

Scarletrover wrote: A bit over the top since it's a sticky though!

But stickys dont show up in the "Active Topics" list, if there has not been any new posts added to it.

wizard wrote: Scarletrover wrote: A bit over the top since it's a sticky though! But stickys dont show up in the "Active Topics" list, if there has not been any new posts added to it.

In that case................BUMP!

Scarletrover wrote: wizard wrote: Scarletrover wrote: A bit over the top since it's a sticky though! But stickys dont show up in the "Active Topics" list, if there has not been any new posts added to it. In that case................BUMP!

Bump!

Less than 29hrs to go now....

Abbey wrote: As for the launch - as I say, it will be on Jan 24th in the Tetley Suite at Stradey (7:30pm). We have had provisional agreement from a few old players and are encouraging others to attend. We hope that Ray Gravell will link the whole evening and there will be raffle and auction for prizes and memorabilia. We are also trying to get Phil to allow some current squad members to be there, but it is difficult due to other committments - but we are hopeful. The cost to join the Trust was suggested as the cost of our lowest price adult ticket (?15 I believe). We have reduced that by 50% and are asking for just ?10. Part of this will go towards a certified share in the "company", renewable annually, and the rest will go towards fundraising. OAPs will be ?5 and children ?1 (children cannot become shareholders due to legal reasons, hence the nominal cost). Please DO come along and support the future of your region, in a way that gives you a voice. If anyone has any questions, then ask here and we will post answers on this thread.

Tonight at 7.30 guys and gals hope to see lots of you there!

stuscarlet wrote: Where do i sign up???

pm me your email address and i'll send you a membership form

stuscarlet wrote: Where do i sign up???

Look at the post in the Supporters Trust Section

http://www.scarletfever.org/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=11004&PN=1 - Membership Forms For CRYS16

http://www.scarletfever.org/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=11004&PN=1 -  

ymlaenllanelli wrote: ive sent my application, sorry the donation is only small, will probably donate more at another time

It all helps! Thankyou.

I think ive emailed membership forms to everyone who asked me, sorry if I did forget anyone (i dont think i did tho!) If anyone wants anyone info before the website is up and running give me a shout.

Abbey wrote: Right - just to update this thread, I've had a letter today from Rhodri Morgan which reads: " Annwyl Alun, I am writing with the opportunity to offer some words of support for the official launch of CRYS16 on 24th January. I am sure it was a splendid occasion for all concerned, not least because it comes at a time when the Scarlets are flying high in Europe. It is no secret that supporters are the lifeblood of any sporting team and the Scarlets have certainly benefited from a strong, intensely vocal and passionate support over the years that has given the team an extra man on the field. I wish the Trust every success in the future and I look forward to seeing the Scarlets triumph over Munster in the quarter finals and go all the way in the Heineken Cup. I hope everyone had an enjoyable evening and my very best wishes to CRYS16 and the Scarlets. Yn ddiffuant Rhodri"

Thought this ought to be posted here too

HELP!!!

On the standing order forms it asks for a first date of payment. Anyone connected with the Trust able to recommend a date to put in light of the first of the month approaching fast?

Thanks!

it's dependent on you.. i'd say when your pay goes in...

If u haven't set it up in time you could always instruct your bank to transfer the money direct to the trust's bank.... if u need anymore info PM me

salmidach wrote: it's dependent on you.. i'd say when your pay goes in... If u haven't set it up in time you could always instruct your bank to transfer the money direct to the trust's bank.... if u need anymore info PM me

Thanks for that. I'll sort the forms out and get them into the post.