Crossing in second SA v Lions test
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Topic: Crossing in second SA v Lions test
Posted By: aber-fan
Subject: Crossing in second SA v Lions test
Date Posted: 29 June 2009 at 11:04am
I wonder how our qualified refs saw the two 'crossing' incidents in the test.
First half - Roberts runs at a gap between two SA players, and the ball is passed behind his back - a try looks to be on. One of the SA players closes the gap, makes a fairly heavy contact, claims a penalty and gets one - even though, if he had stayed put, Roberts could have squeezed between the SA players (they were fairly close).
Second half - set move by SA - one of their players dummy runs near Roberts, and the ball is passed behind him to Habana, who scores. Roberts was distracted, put an arm on the dummy runner, but the contact was not so heavy. Decision - try to SA.
IMHO, the only significant difference was the heaviness of the contact, which was caused by the SA player moving to block Roberts's run, not by Roberts running into him.
What would our experienced refs have given, with the benefit of replays? Was the ref right - or was he conned?
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Posted By: Snedds
Date Posted: 29 June 2009 at 11:17am
Not got a link for the first example you mention, but here's the Habana try.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=57T3b94UiLo - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=57T3b94UiLo
I'm still not convinced it was crossing, just a well worked move that we didn't defend all that well.
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Posted By: Ow!
Date Posted: 04 July 2009 at 7:56pm
that ref in the second test was a right corker. mind you, i think the frog video ref for the first test was running the touchline today. he can barely speak english mun!!!stick to your snails froggy!
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Posted By: Bouch
Date Posted: 07 July 2009 at 7:42am
I'm not a ref but the two moves were executed in two different ways.
The South African dummy runner held back from contact and essentially stopped running to ensure that he wasn't tackled. Havana scores - good try!
Jamie Roberts didn't slow down so markedly on the face of it, which is not a criticism as he is a big lad, but IMO the two tacklers charged in to ensure that he did make contact. The outside man steamed in and left the big gap. He'd have looked a fool if the Ref had ignored the grapple.
It was a canny bit of play by the two Bok defenders and it caught the ref's attention.
The Habana move was timed perfectly. The Roberts move was not.
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