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Topic: can wales beat england?
Posted By: kcreg
Subject: can wales beat england?
Date Posted: 04 August 2011 at 5:02pm
just a simple question really,can we or can't we beat england at twickers this saturday?i believe wales can edge it,at the end of the day ,there's nothing to frightening in that england team in my opinion.that welsh back division has to start clicking however.i think its vital that wales get their world cup warm ups off to a great start.thoughts please?

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Posted By: Wil Chips
Date Posted: 04 August 2011 at 5:07pm

I know I sound a bit 'if only'...bit I just think this Welsh front row is bench material at best (and what's in their slots on the bench is not really bringing any impact).

England away is a tough venue regardless of players available , I fear it will be a (possibly very) comfortable win for England by 20-25pts.


Posted By: Endeavour
Date Posted: 04 August 2011 at 5:17pm
Difficult as always to win at Twickenham but I'm quite confident we'll get a win on Saturday. The pack must achieve parity though and Bennett hit his man in the line out. 

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Posted By: scarlet96
Date Posted: 04 August 2011 at 5:38pm
Originally posted by Endeavour Endeavour wrote:

Difficult as always to win at Twickenham but I'm quite confident we'll get a win on Saturday. The pack must achieve parity though and Bennett hit his man in the line out
you must be joking he wont do that 


Posted By: kcreg
Date Posted: 04 August 2011 at 6:00pm
bennett isn't the 1st,and he'll be by no ways isn't going to be the last welsh hooker who can't find his man in the lineout.smiler isn't exactly 100% on his own throw ins is he?

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OSPREYS 9-SCARLETS 14!
OSPEYS 16-SCARLETS 25!


Posted By: haydn_davies
Date Posted: 04 August 2011 at 6:05pm
Originally posted by kcreg kcreg wrote:

bennett isn't the 1st,and he'll be by no ways isn't going to be the last welsh hooker who can't find his man in the lineout.smiler isn't exactly 100% on his own throw ins is he?
Wasn't there a stat from either the beginning of last season or the season before about Ken Owens, not missing his jumper in the lineout on something like 17-18 consecutive throws??


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Posted By: scarlet96
Date Posted: 04 August 2011 at 6:09pm
Originally posted by kcreg kcreg wrote:

bennett isn't the 1st,and he'll be by no ways isn't going to be the last welsh hooker who can't find his man in the lineout.smiler isn't exactly 100% on his own throw ins is he?
at least Matthew hits more than about 1 per game


Posted By: kcreg
Date Posted: 04 August 2011 at 6:17pm
Originally posted by scarlet96 scarlet96 wrote:

Originally posted by kcreg kcreg wrote:

bennett isn't the 1st,and he'll be by no ways isn't going to be the last welsh hooker who can't find his man in the lineout.smiler isn't exactly 100% on his own throw ins is he?
at least Matthew hits more than about 1 per game
you sure about that?

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OSPREYS 9-SCARLETS 14!
OSPEYS 16-SCARLETS 25!


Posted By: bazlewis
Date Posted: 04 August 2011 at 6:22pm
I agree with Wil I think the Welsh front row looks very week, I think England will win by 20 points but I hope I am wrong.


Posted By: Tumblescarlet
Date Posted: 04 August 2011 at 6:30pm
As always itll depend on gatlands gameplan. If Wales run at the english from the very start as Ireland did in the 6 nations, then who knows?, but if we get involved in an armwrestle then weve no chance.

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Posted By: joss
Date Posted: 04 August 2011 at 7:09pm
Originally posted by bazlewis bazlewis wrote:

I agree with Wil I think the Welsh front row looks very week, I think England will win by 20 points but I hope I am wrong.
Mixed loyalties on saturday Baz WinkWink

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Posted By: Endeavour
Date Posted: 04 August 2011 at 7:24pm
Matt Stevens is a class act but as far as I'm concerned the jury is out on the other two. The English midfield might find Stevo's game management a bit of a worry. Both have been known to turn in the style of the Q.E. II and there's no one better at exploiting that with the dink of the top!!! Foxy needs a big game- and he'll provide!!

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Posted By: rolly
Date Posted: 04 August 2011 at 8:19pm
I reckon we'll get tonked . Im expecting the worst .


Posted By: jeremy windell
Date Posted: 04 August 2011 at 9:38pm
hiding on the cards on saturday, gatland has some bizzare loyalties, i, expecting him. egg head, and scream mask to go after the world cup. Never mind tho, weve got loads of cash, so why do we need to win on the pitch??

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Posted By: bazlewis
Date Posted: 04 August 2011 at 10:38pm
Joss there are no mixed loyaltys on Saturday I shall want Wales to win the same as allways.


Posted By: Once a monkey
Date Posted: 04 August 2011 at 11:14pm
One for JW, Maldwyn and Rap, decent English back row lads. Very combative at the breakdown?


Posted By: JonWal
Date Posted: 05 August 2011 at 9:31am
Yes, we can win.. but we wont. I recon England by 6-8 points. Not an embarassment, but I'll be happy if we just show a different approach to all the drab rugby Wales have been playing for the last few seasons.
 


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Posted By: lofty evans
Date Posted: 05 August 2011 at 10:53am
I hate losing to the English, it will be something else if we lose and they are All Black, its not right mun..........

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Posted By: supergran
Date Posted: 05 August 2011 at 1:25pm
The ref on Saturday's that clown Steve Walsh...........God help us!!


Posted By: Mrfwon
Date Posted: 05 August 2011 at 3:28pm
Much like the last World Cup warm up, I see us getting stonked, and then stonked again in Cardiff. As a national squad, and going on previous performances, we just can't cut the cake at the highest level. Going into the World Cup with still stuggling to beat any SH side, our group poses an awful challeneg for us. Shocked
 
I fear this could be the start of a very long losing streak, and the end of Gats in charge! ConfusedCry


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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 05 August 2011 at 4:09pm
Originally posted by Mrfwon Mrfwon wrote:

Much like the last World Cup warm up, I see us getting stonked, and then stonked again in Cardiff. As a national squad, and going on previous performances, we just can't cut the cake at the highest level. Going into the World Cup with still stuggling to beat any SH side, our group poses an awful challeneg for us. Shocked
 
I fear this could be the start of a very long losing streak, and the end of Gats in charge! ConfusedCry
that's the spirit!!!


Posted By: welsh treg
Date Posted: 05 August 2011 at 10:02pm
Originally posted by rap columbo rap columbo wrote:

Originally posted by Mrfwon Mrfwon wrote:

Much like the last World Cup warm up, I see us getting stonked, and then stonked again in Cardiff. As a national squad, and going on previous performances, we just can't cut the cake at the highest level. Going into the World Cup with still stuggling to beat any SH side, our group poses an awful challeneg for us. Shocked
 
I fear this could be the start of a very long losing streak, and the end of Gats in charge! ConfusedCry
that's the spirit!!!
 
 
Harsh but true,
 
Come October our injury crisis will be worse than ever !!
 
WT


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Posted By: lofty evans
Date Posted: 05 August 2011 at 10:09pm
Originally posted by Mrfwon Mrfwon wrote:

Much like the last World Cup warm up, I see us getting stonked, and then stonked again in Cardiff. As a national squad, and going on previous performances, we just can't cut the cake at the highest level. Going into the World Cup with still stuggling to beat any SH side, our group poses an awful challeneg for us. Shocked
 

I fear this could be the start of a very long losing streak, and the end of Gats in charge! ConfusedCry


Crack open a Carlsberg Export mate and chill,

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In 1972, Roy Bergiers scored that try and said "that was for you lofty"

"All you have to decide is what to do with the time that is given to us"


Posted By: minded
Date Posted: 05 August 2011 at 10:23pm
Originally posted by Mrfwon Mrfwon wrote:

 
I fear this could be the start of a very long losing streak, and the end of Gats in charge! ConfusedCry
 
Nothing to fear here, I see this as the light at the end of the tunnel!



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