ARE YOU BLIND REF.... OR ARE WE WRONG ???

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End of Game

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Forum Name: ARE YOU BLIND REF.... OR ARE WE WRONG ???
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Topic: End of Game

Posted By: Abbey
Subject: End of Game
Date Posted: 26 December 2012 at 2:52pm

At the Blues v Scarlets game, we were awarded a penalty at the end of the game which, by the time it was kicked, was in dead time. As we all remember, it fell short and the game continued. Had it gone dead (e.g. Too long but missed), the game would have ended.

The question is, had Aled Thomas just turned to the touch line and kicked the ball out as a place kick, what would the ref have done? Awarded a penalty against Thomas for unsporting behaviour or would he have had to just call time?

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Posted By: lofty evans
Date Posted: 26 December 2012 at 2:55pm

Abbey wrote:

At the Blues v Scarlets game, we were awarded a penalty at the end of the game which, by the time it was kicked, was in dead time. As we all remember, it fell short and the game continued. Had it gone dead (e.g. Too long but missed), the game would have ended.

The question is, had Aled Thomas just turned to the touch line and kicked the ball out as a place kick, what would the ref have done? Awarded a penalty against Thomas for unsporting behaviour or would he have had to just call time?

Damn good question Ab.

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Posted By: scarletman
Date Posted: 26 December 2012 at 4:32pm

Being as he had indicated a shot at goal, that is what it has to be !
Had he kicked to touch, the game has NOT been concluded, & a penalty would be awarded to the Blues at the original mark.

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Posted By: Abbey
Date Posted: 26 December 2012 at 6:42pm

scarletman wrote:

Being as he had indicated a shot at goal, that is what it has to be !
Had he kicked to touch, the game has NOT been concluded, & a penalty would be awarded to the Blues at the original mark.

Ok then. Rather than use accuracy and aim for the posts, could he have just hoofed it straight and as hard as possible in the general direction of the posts but make sure it actually went dead?

Posted By: scarletman
Date Posted: 27 December 2012 at 9:20am

Abbey wrote:

Ok then. Rather than use accuracy and aim for the posts, could he have just hoofed it straight and as hard as possible in the general direction of the posts but make sure it actually went dead?

Being an ex Open-side, who occasionally kicked the odd penalty, that WAS my technique !! Confused

New thought ...

Player - "Ref .. is there time for the Line Out ?"
Ref - "No!"

Player - [Kicks the ball off the park at the nearest point !]

Now that's game management !

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