S4C to air B&I Cup games
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Topic: S4C to air B&I Cup games
Posted By: minded
Subject: S4C to air B&I Cup games
Date Posted: 04 November 2015 at 12:04pm
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The new teams will benefit from live television coverage throughout the competition with S4C broadcasting one Welsh Regional Premiership Select fixture per round for as long as a Welsh side remains in the competition.
The S4C television coverage begins with Scarlets v Bedford on Sunday November 15 kick off 3pm.
English language commentary will be available through the Red Button option on S4C, which is available throughout the UK on platforms such as Sky, Freesat and Virgin Media.
S4C Sports Editor Sue Butler said, "S4C is delighted to provide live coverage of the new Regional Premiership Select teams in the British & Irish Cup competition. It adds greatly to our wide-ranging rugby portfolio which includes live and highlights coverage from the grassroots such as colleges rugby to the Six Nations and the Rugby World Cup."
The Blues Premiership Select side will be the first to fly the Welsh flag on home soil when they welcome Nottingham to the BT Sport Cardiff Arms Park on Saturday 14 November (2.30pm), while the Dragons Premiership Select will travel to Galway to play Connacht Eagles.
The following day will see Yorkshire Carnegie host the Ospreys Premiership Select XV in Huddersfield at 1.30pm ahead of the Scarlets Premiership Select's televised encounter against Bedford Blues at Carmarthen Park.
The spotlight will not only fall on the rising stars of Welsh rugby but on the four coaching teams where individuals have been given a golden opportunity to develop their own careers.
Cardiff Blues Premiership Select coach, Richard Hodges, said: "We are looking forward to this season and excited about the challenge of taking part in the British & Irish Cup.
"The support we've had from players and coaches at Cardiff RFC and Pontypridd RFC has been fantastic. We've presented to both groups of players and told them what we want to achieve in this competition. "Not only is this a competition for players to impress along the pathway, we will also be inviting coaches from Cardiff and Pontypridd to be involved to aid their development.
"We have been drawn against three established English Championship sides and start with a difficult test in Nottingham before taking on London Welsh and Cornish Pirates. We are aware of the success that Pontypridd have had in this competition in recent seasons and it is our aim to emulate that and enjoy a successful first year in the British & Irish Cup."
The Ospreys Premiership Select XV will face London Scottish, Munster A and Yorkshire Carnegie in Pool 3 where head coach Dan Griffiths believes the tournament is a great opportunity for coaches as well as players.
"This is a fantastic opportunity for some of the young talent that is out there in the region playing for our clubs, one that those fortunate enough selected should be looking to take full advantage of," he said.
"It'll be tough coming together as a squad of players to compete at a high level with some professional squads, but it's going to be an exciting campaign. It's also a great opportunity for a young coaching team to come to terms with the unique challenges of leading a team in a competition like this and we're looking forward to it." Along with Bedford Blues, the Scarlets Premiership Select XV take on Bristol and Ulster A in Pool 2 in the new look competition.
Scarlets Premiership Select XV Head Coach Dai Flanagan, said: "We have a young group representing us this year and it's their chance to impress on a bigger stage in front of bigger crowds and to play against new and exciting opposition. The competition is an opportunity for the young players to make that step up from Premiership and put their hands up for selection at regional level."
Along with the Irish province, the Dragons Premiership Select XV will also face Doncaster and Jersey in Pool 5. Dragons Academy Manager James Chapron, said: "The British and Irish Cup is the next step for us as a Region to do number of things including developing our own players from the Academy developmental senior tier, whilst offering those Premiership players the next level and potentially put their hands up for a regional place. We have a good tradition of developing the younger players and that step up is important to see the next level of potential players.
"The Dragons worked very closely with Cross Keys, who were our representative in the BIC last year in which we entered into a partnership deal with them. It was a tough competition in which we played Doncaster, whom we have drawn this season too, but lost unfortunately during two intense games. It was a real learning curve for myself and the Cross Keys coaches. "Our link with our Premiership teams is essential once again this year to not only support us a as a region but to help us develop future Dragons players."
Pools Pool 1: Ealing Trailfinders, Moseley, Leinster 'A', Rotherham Titans Pool 2: Bedford Blues, Scarlets Premiership Select, Bristol Rugby, Ulster Ravens Pool 3: Ospreys Premiership Select, Yorkshire Carnegie, Munster 'A', London Scottish Pool 4: Nottingham Rugby, Cardiff Blues Premiership Select, London Welsh, Cornish Pirates Pool 5: Newport Gwent Dragons Premiership Select, Connacht Eagles, Doncaster Knights, Jersey
------------- https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLPnAh1r0V9YMx4LjUAXI1AUts5jgBck9u" rel="nofollow - Scarlets Tries of the Season 2009 - 2022
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Posted By: aber-fan
Date Posted: 04 November 2015 at 1:57pm
Good - should be well worth watching, especially for those of us who don't watch Premiership rugby
------------- “You cannot reason a man out of what he never reasoned himself into.” (Jonathan Swift)
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Posted By: reesytheexile
Date Posted: 04 November 2015 at 2:12pm
aber-fan wrote:
Good - should be well worth watching, especially for those of us who don't watch Premiership rugby |
I had to bite to what may have been a loaded question of yours but why dont you watch Premiership Rugby?
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Posted By: 157cb
Date Posted: 04 November 2015 at 4:05pm
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Great news with S4c screening games,watched the Scarlets A team beat Leinster A and Jersey last season in excellent games . More games are needed at this level and less Premiership games .
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Posted By: Ffidel Bennett
Date Posted: 04 November 2015 at 9:09pm
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God, it's quiet on here tonight. Is everybody glued to Autumnwatch on the box or is all this match-winning making argument a bit pointless. So here's a real challenge- choose your Scarlets A side for the B&I cup.
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Posted By: 157cb
Date Posted: 04 November 2015 at 9:24pm
Ffidel Bennett wrote:
God, it's quiet on here tonight. Is everybody glued to Autumnwatch on the box or is all this match-winning making argument a bit pointless. So here's a real challenge- choose your Scarlets A side for the B&I cup. |
Jordan,Aaron,Cowley,Rhys Williams,Iolo,Josh,Hardy,Wyn,Ryan,Ben,Paulino,Helps,Tom,Brookes,Lloyd .
subs,Nicholas,Maynard,Lloyd,Rhys Thomas,Torin,Harvard,Pugh and Owain Morgan
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Posted By: Ffidel Bennett
Date Posted: 04 November 2015 at 9:45pm
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Quick off the mark there 157cb - have they named a squad yet, or have they said that they only want youngsters? Anyway you've embarrassed me into having a go now. Forgive me if I've named an injured player or left out a real prospect that I haven't yet seen 15 Lee Rees 14 Jordan 13 Cowley 12 Iolo 11 Dale Ford 10 Josh Lewis 9 Lee Williams 8 Tom Phillips 7 Josh Middleton 6 Jack Jones 5 Josh Helps 4 Paulino 3 Will Taylor 2 Ryan Elias 1 Wyn Jones
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Posted By: aber-fan
Date Posted: 05 November 2015 at 1:41pm
reesytheexile wrote:
aber-fan wrote:
Good - should be well worth watching, especially for those of us who don't watch Premiership rugby |
I had to bite to what may have been a loaded question of yours but why dont you watch Premiership Rugby?  |
Because I live 65 miles from Llanelli. It's a long drive for Scarlets games, which already I don't get down for as often as I would like!
------------- “You cannot reason a man out of what he never reasoned himself into.” (Jonathan Swift)
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Posted By: supertaf
Date Posted: 05 November 2015 at 3:14pm
To be honest we have such strength in depth that our A tem should be very competitive.
------------- Scarlets - Suppliers of fine rugby since 1872
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Posted By: LLANDRE
Date Posted: 13 November 2015 at 9:02am
The Scarlets A game against Bedford on Sunday will be live on S4C.
------------- West is Best (Fin gwybod)
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Posted By: supertaf
Date Posted: 13 November 2015 at 11:02am
Can't see it on the planner, is it confirmed as televised?
------------- Scarlets - Suppliers of fine rugby since 1872
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Posted By: aber-fan
Date Posted: 13 November 2015 at 7:49pm
supertaf wrote:
Can't see it on the planner, is it confirmed as televised? |
Yes - coverage on S4C from 2.45pm, KO at 3pm.
Da iawn, S4C!
------------- “You cannot reason a man out of what he never reasoned himself into.” (Jonathan Swift)
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Posted By: judith
Date Posted: 15 November 2015 at 8:08pm
Did anyone else watch the match?
Was impressed by Condy and thought Collins and the full-back (can't remember his name, sorry!) did well too. Elias's line-outs went awry with the wind, but he was excellent in the loose. The young lad at 6 who was captain was good too.
And watching Reggie's lad is really spooky, he's so much like him (and he tackled everything!)
The wind (and then the rain) made for terrible conditions, and obviously Bedford were going to win as they play together week-in, week-out. But I enjoyed having a look at what was really the Scarlets 'A' team.
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Posted By: 157cb
Date Posted: 15 November 2015 at 8:18pm
judith wrote:
Did anyone else watch the match?
Was impressed by Condy and thought Collins and the full-back (can't remember his name, sorry!) did well too. Elias's line-outs went awry with the wind, but he was excellent in the loose. The young lad at 6 who was captain was good too.
And watching Reggie's lad is really spooky, he's so much like him (and he tackled everything!)
The wind (and then the rain) made for terrible conditions, and obviously Bedford were going to win as they play together week-in, week-out. But I enjoyed having a look at what was really the Scarlets 'A' team.
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Pretty much spot on Judith ,also thought Josh Lewis and George Earle did well .In fairness Bedford were excellent a well drilled team who play together week in week out ,but the Scarlets boys could nt be faulted for effort and comittmment , with only George Earle aged over 24 years old in the pack .The only way forward for all these young lads is more cross border games,as the Premiership is nt of the standard required .
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Posted By: judith
Date Posted: 15 November 2015 at 8:27pm
157cb wrote:
judith wrote:
Did anyone else watch the match?
Was impressed by Condy and thought Collins and the full-back (can't remember his name, sorry!) did well too. Elias's line-outs went awry with the wind, but he was excellent in the loose. The young lad at 6 who was captain was good too.
And watching Reggie's lad is really spooky, he's so much like him (and he tackled everything!)
The wind (and then the rain) made for terrible conditions, and obviously Bedford were going to win as they play together week-in, week-out. But I enjoyed having a look at what was really the Scarlets 'A' team.
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Pretty much spot on Judith ,also thought Josh Lewis and George Earle did well .In fairness Bedford were excellent a well drilled team who play together week in week out ,but the Scarlets boys could nt be faulted for effort and comittmment , with only George Earle aged over 24 years old in the pack .The only way forward for all these young lads is more cross border games,as the Premiership is nt of the standard required . |
Thank you! Which one was Josh Lewis? (Sorry!) Was good to see Pivac there too. For me, Earle did OK (but I'd expect him to at this level!) - nothing spectacular though (although obviously the weather was a factor.) Still not sure why he was playing for the 'A' team though - assuming he's either on the naughty step or the other locks are now ahead of him?
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Posted By: Hendre
Date Posted: 15 November 2015 at 8:55pm
The players who impressed today were Condy, Tom Phillips, Wil Thomas and Josh Lewis. No one else that's for sure!
------------- You were born to win, but to be a winner, you must plan to win, prepare to win, and expect to win. Zig Ziglar
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Posted By: 157cb
Date Posted: 15 November 2015 at 8:58pm
judith wrote:
157cb wrote:
judith wrote:
Did anyone else watch the match?
Was impressed by Condy and thought Collins and the full-back (can't remember his name, sorry!) did well too. Elias's line-outs went awry with the wind, but he was excellent in the loose. The young lad at 6 who was captain was good too.
And watching Reggie's lad is really spooky, he's so much like him (and he tackled everything!)
The wind (and then the rain) made for terrible conditions, and obviously Bedford were going to win as they play together week-in, week-out. But I enjoyed having a look at what was really the Scarlets 'A' team.
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Pretty much spot on Judith ,also thought Josh Lewis and George Earle did well .In fairness Bedford were excellent a well drilled team who play together week in week out ,but the Scarlets boys could nt be faulted for effort and comittmment , with only George Earle aged over 24 years old in the pack .The only way forward for all these young lads is more cross border games,as the Premiership is nt of the standard required . |
Thank you! Which one was Josh Lewis? (Sorry!) Was good to see Pivac there too. For me, Earle did OK (but I'd expect him to at this level!) - nothing spectacular though (although obviously the weather was a factor.) Still not sure why he was playing for the 'A' team though - assuming he's either on the naughty step or the other locks are now ahead of him?
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Josh Lewis was at 10 the boy as been very unlucky with injury,I have no doubt he would really have kicked on if he had stayed fit for a period of time ,great to seem him back and playing well
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Posted By: judith
Date Posted: 15 November 2015 at 9:16pm
157cb wrote:
judith wrote:
157cb wrote:
judith wrote:
Did anyone else watch the match?
Was impressed by Condy and thought Collins and the full-back (can't remember his name, sorry!) did well too. Elias's line-outs went awry with the wind, but he was excellent in the loose. The young lad at 6 who was captain was good too.
And watching Reggie's lad is really spooky, he's so much like him (and he tackled everything!)
The wind (and then the rain) made for terrible conditions, and obviously Bedford were going to win as they play together week-in, week-out. But I enjoyed having a look at what was really the Scarlets 'A' team.
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Pretty much spot on Judith ,also thought Josh Lewis and George Earle did well .In fairness Bedford were excellent a well drilled team who play together week in week out ,but the Scarlets boys could nt be faulted for effort and comittmment , with only George Earle aged over 24 years old in the pack .The only way forward for all these young lads is more cross border games,as the Premiership is nt of the standard required . |
Thank you! Which one was Josh Lewis? (Sorry!) Was good to see Pivac there too. For me, Earle did OK (but I'd expect him to at this level!) - nothing spectacular though (although obviously the weather was a factor.) Still not sure why he was playing for the 'A' team though - assuming he's either on the naughty step or the other locks are now ahead of him?
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Josh Lewis was at 10 the boy as been very unlucky with injury,I have no doubt he would really have kicked on if he had stayed fit for a period of time ,great to seem him back and playing well |
Ah, ok - thanks!
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Posted By: roy munster
Date Posted: 15 November 2015 at 9:46pm
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Havent seen this yet , but a hugely disappointing result. We seemed to have a fair bit of talent, what went wrong?
------------- ROYMOND MUNTER MBE (FOR SERVICES TO THE COMBOVER)
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Posted By: townboy
Date Posted: 15 November 2015 at 10:20pm
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The side we had put I was expecting a lot more...conditions were poor but we didn't play them at all well...thought that Josh Lewis should have kicked more with the wind first half but just wanted to run the ball..going in at 7-6 down half time with the wind we were never going to win...Tom Phillips,Condy and Jack Jones played well...Jordan couldn't get into the game,Also Elias at hooker went well in the loose but lineouts struggled....Good to see Pivac and some of the boys there...
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Posted By: surfing-mtber
Date Posted: 15 November 2015 at 11:04pm
Condy had good game, played a bit like a certain No.8 we sold to Gloucs! Needs work on his conditioning, could a job for us given time.
Regan Jnr plays a very similar game to his dad, a little naïve in defensive positioning, but brave and also good support play.
Tom Phillips was solid, always looking for work, intelligent runner.
Ryan Elias was excellent in the loose, good ball carrier and like an extra flanker at the breakdown. Lineout throwing let him down, but jumpers seemed a bit hesitant as well.
Scarlets looked like a team that had never played together before, lacked cohesion, terrible lineout, but largely bossed the scrum. Good development opportunity, but these premiership development squads are going to find is difficult against club teams.
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Posted By: Iwlew
Date Posted: 15 November 2015 at 11:08pm
Agreed Condy does remind me of the missile Morgan
------------- And We Were Singing...
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Posted By: Ffidel Bennett
Date Posted: 15 November 2015 at 11:15pm
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I was very disappointed with Josh Lewis. With that first half (not so much with missed penalties as even Biggar had trouble kicking in that wind but he should have had won us far more territory and positions to attack. Jordan and king junior were total non-entities. On the positive side the young pack did well, particularly Condy, Jack Jones and the front row and Drovers' Will Thomas at 15 looked fast and ran intelligent lines. We picked a young experimental side who were playing their first match together against an experienced, hard-headed side in truly appalling weather and we clearly need more lineout practice before the next match at Bristol next Sunday. Condy must be very close to a full Scarlets call-up next week.
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Posted By: Wil Chips
Date Posted: 16 November 2015 at 3:14am
Bedford are virtually a full time pro team and at the higher echelons of the Championship.
We put together a composite side with a few pro's, a stack of academy and development players, and a good local semi pro talent.
It's a way forward that I really applaud this. Many of those that took part will have probably just played their highest standard game of rugby to date...all that has to be good.
We will be very competitive in this new re-vamped B&I...great to see TV coverage too.
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Posted By: Dan the Drover
Date Posted: 16 November 2015 at 9:22am
The Scarlets team looked quite good for about 20 minutes, perhaps because Bedford knew nothing about them and took a while to adapt. After that, the difference between a (semi-) professional team that plays and trains regularly together would - other things being equal - always result in defeat for the "scratch" outfit. This probably isn't going to go down well with the likes of Pontypridd if it happens to the other Welsh scratch sides. It is going to be hard to argue that a top Principality Premiership side wouldn't have done considerably better, and pose more of a challenge. I fancy even the Drovers would have done a bit better, though I doubt they would have won it. Let's hope the Scarlets put on a better show against Bristol (gulp!).
On the plus side, I agree it is good experience for our players provided they and their coaches recognise it for what it is. I can't see Wales ever winning it, however. Bedford thrashed "the Scarlets" in one of the pre-season friendlies, so the result can't have come as much surprise.
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Posted By: supertaf
Date Posted: 16 November 2015 at 11:19am
judith wrote:
157cb wrote:
judith wrote:
Did anyone else watch the match?
Was impressed by Condy and thought Collins and the full-back (can't remember his name, sorry!) did well too. Elias's line-outs went awry with the wind, but he was excellent in the loose. The young lad at 6 who was captain was good too.
And watching Reggie's lad is really spooky, he's so much like him (and he tackled everything!)
The wind (and then the rain) made for terrible conditions, and obviously Bedford were going to win as they play together week-in, week-out. But I enjoyed having a look at what was really the Scarlets 'A' team.
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Pretty much spot on Judith ,also thought Josh Lewis and George Earle did well .In fairness Bedford were excellent a well drilled team who play together week in week out ,but the Scarlets boys could nt be faulted for effort and comittmment , with only George Earle aged over 24 years old in the pack .The only way forward for all these young lads is more cross border games,as the Premiership is nt of the standard required . |
Thank you! Which one was Josh Lewis? (Sorry!) Was good to see Pivac there too. For me, Earle did OK (but I'd expect him to at this level!) - nothing spectacular though (although obviously the weather was a factor.) Still not sure why he was playing for the 'A' team though - assuming he's either on the naughty step or the other locks are now ahead of him?
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It was also good to see so many Scarlets players at the game especially after a late return from Northampton. Speaks volumes about the squad attitude this year.
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Posted By: RR1972
Date Posted: 16 November 2015 at 12:34pm
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Bedford jumbo pack was the difference, condy stood out for us as did Elias in the loose but his throwing in was shaky (I thought Earle was quiet) I rate Jordan but he looks as if his head is already elsewhere
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Posted By: aber-fan
Date Posted: 16 November 2015 at 2:16pm
roy munster wrote:
Havent seen this yet , but a hugely disappointing result.We seemed to have a fair bit of talent, what went wrong? |
As others have said - basically, ours was a scratch side of players not used to being in the same team (plus young) - they were older and wiser, and played as a well drilled outfit.
They used the wind far better. Their lineout worked - ours didn't. They were more coherent at the breakdown, and they ran better support lines as they were familiar with the team's pattern.
Considering all of that, the young Scarlets did OK (and maybe the score flattered Bedford a bit). Condy was my MoM for the home team; Elias was good in the loose - lineout problems maybe down to the wind and/or lack of practice as a pack. Our LH prop did OK. The rest, mainly, were a mixture of good and not so good. They'll get better with experience - this was a good lesson.
------------- “You cannot reason a man out of what he never reasoned himself into.” (Jonathan Swift)
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Posted By: 157cb
Date Posted: 16 November 2015 at 2:42pm
aber-fan wrote:
roy munster wrote:
Havent seen this yet , but a hugely disappointing result.We seemed to have a fair bit of talent, what went wrong? |
As others have said - basically, ours was a scratch side of players not used to being in the same team (plus young) - they were older and wiser, and played as a well drilled outfit.
They used the wind far better. Their lineout worked - ours didn't. They were more coherent at the breakdown, and they ran better support lines as they were familiar with the team's pattern.
Considering all of that, the young Scarlets did OK (and maybe the score flattered Bedford a bit). Condy was my MoM for the home team; Elias was good in the loose - lineout problems maybe down to the wind and/or lack of practice as a pack. Our LH prop did OK. The rest, mainly, were a mixture of good and not so good. They'll get better with experience - this was a good lesson. |
Excellent post aberfan,spot on with all of that .
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Posted By: Wil Chips
Date Posted: 16 November 2015 at 2:50pm
Dan the Drover wrote:
The Scarlets team looked quite good for about 20 minutes, perhaps because Bedford knew nothing about them and took a while to adapt. After that, the difference between a (semi-) professional team that plays and trains regularly together would - other things being equal - always result in defeat for the "scratch" outfit. This probably isn't going to go down well with the likes of Pontypridd if it happens to the other Welsh scratch sides. It is going to be hard to argue that a top Principality Premiership side wouldn't have done considerably better, and pose more of a challenge. I fancy even the Drovers would have done a bit better, though I doubt they would have won it. Let's hope the Scarlets put on a better show against Bristol (gulp!).
On the plus side, I agree it is good experience for our players provided they and their coaches recognise it for what it is. I can't see Wales ever winning it, however. Bedford thrashed "the Scarlets" in one of the pre-season friendlies, so the result can't have come as much surprise.
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It's going to be interesting to see how it rolls out, and the success of this re-vamped competition depends on a number of factors...e.g. Bedford took it as a serious match day work out playing most (maybe all) of their first team...Yorkshire Carnegie too...Bristol on the other hand (who lost 35-5 to Ulster A) effectively put out a Bristol A team...not going to help the tournament at all that in my view.
I have no doubt that the likes of Drovers and Ponty, maybe one or two others, (with the regions players added of course) could still continue to hold their own for now...but to my mind this tournament should/needs to move beyond that level and be a clear stepping stone to a B&I A league.
No doubt that the top end of the championship teams
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