So you end up with countless articles like:

Wales forgotten man playing in England

Player could be in wales squad 

Welsh qualified player does x 

He had a good game. 

And the tackle in the final seconds?

Lol really he was poor , u think you need new glasses

Grow up , take it you don't believe people should have different opinions

I think that was a little jokette! Made me laugh anyway 😆

midfield looked porous all game, dropped off tackles and not good enough.

Big test of Pivac's selection abilities around the corner. 

Pretty obvious really. 

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Always starts his stories with absolute baffling bullpoo and then slowly moves on to declare his undying love for Tipuric..

His articles are very child like and offer no insight at all.

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An article about him being captain?

To be fair you can see a lot of journalists are bias to certain teams. 

Viewed in isolation,perhaps not,but already since Saturday Orders has touted Webb both for the England game and for the Lions.Like some scrawling invertebrate,caught in a web of flattery,Orders' obsessive preoccupation with the Ospreys scrum-half is possibly his most worrying,and is rivalled only by his unrequited love for Tipuric:an all-consuming fixation.

Webb has not been the same player since his Toulon experience for whatever reason. Tipuric remains one of the best all round rugby players in Europe. His tackle efficiency, work rate and lineout work are outstanding & if we ever get to play the offloading/support style that Pivac wants he will be an ideal link man. His work at the breakdown is not as good as Warburton, who was brilliant, but boy will we miss him when he is gone. He will remain the first back rower on the team sheet for a while.

Tipuric's "work" at the break-down has never been in the same league as our own James Davies,either.Cubby's turn-over prowess was coupled with excellence on the ball,Olympian excellence.In comparison to Tipuric however,Cubby has always been at a disadvantage in one key area:he's never been championed by somebody like Orders,never had the head-lines.Orders and his ilk have given Tipuric a pass when it comes to the break-down:not so Cubby......Who's injured now?

That's slightly unfair as tips has been a part of the ospreys since he burst on the scene whereas cubby couldn't get a look in until pivac arrived and gave him a chance.

I do not disagree with you Dic about Cubby. A couple of years ago he would have been my selection at 7 for Wales but now unfortunately he is carrying injuries. The selections in the back row are about balance not necessarily about the 3 best players for the numbers. Tipuric gives a huge amount to the team & needs a player like Navidi to enhance our breakdown work. Botham is starting to make a big name for himself as a very robust destructive back rower so a back row of Botham, Navidi & Tipuric is not out of the question. I thought Faletau off the pace on immediate reflection after the Scotland game but the stats say otherwise - most metres made, most tackles. Who would be a selector. 

I agree,you're right there-but I do think that for a number of years,when he was peer-less week in,week out,Cubby simply did not get the recognition he deserved.Orders and others bear some responsibility there.

with the greatest respect i doubt gatland picked his side based around orders's columns

Point taken-I'll rein it in.....
 

 

In saying that Warburton was always wales first pick ahead of both of them, he didn't have their all round skills but he was a physical beast and a great captain 

 

For me Warburton was a hybrid of Shingler & Tipuric. 

I cannot agree with you about Cubby not having Tipuric's skills outside of the breakdown. For those two seasons in question Cubby was a complete 7. Both he and Tipuric had the skills to play regional rugby at 13 & Cubby was also a turnover king. Look back at his performances in the Olympics and you will see a rugby player at the very top of his profession. Warburton, for me, was always a 6 at International level and a bloody good 6 at that. Navidi is the guy who comes closest now for me to the Warburton of old. Ellis Jenkins will also contribute if & when he gets back to speed. It appears that he is going to start against Connacht this weekend which is wonderful news for Welsh rugby. 

I don't think Cubby's injury issues can be attributed to international rugby-11 caps?How many starts?We've seen him dominate the break-down against Toulon,Saracens,top European outfits with international standard packs.The effect on his body has been cumulative,I'd have thought.As for other areas of his game,I think people will always have a genuine debate about him and Tipuric.For me-the main man.Best I've ever seen.

 

Tupric skills are as good if not better imo, he is a better defender, he is better in the line out and while not as physical as say warburton he was more physical then cubby and was  able to cope better with test match rugby

 

Tupric is likely to be selected for his 3rd lions tour, that says it all to me.

 

Cubby is a top level regional player who could hold his own with any in Europe but aside from that tour to argentina he has struggled with wales , the players are just too big for him.

 

Warburton was another monster at the breakdown and I agree him and tupric should have been played together more often

 

Jenkins another top player if he stays fit and gets back to form hell be back in the welsh team and he could well be the next skipper

 

 

 

His injuries only seemed to start when he was with team wales, not sure if that is due to the extra intensity at training , the increased level of physicality or as you say just general wear and tear that coincided with his selection for wales

 

 

I really rate cubby I think he has been brilliant for us and he would be close to my all time scarlets xv I just personally think tupric is better.

 

I would class cubby as a lyn jones footballing type 7 but as you correctly point out he was better at the breakdown

 

The likes of Davey and Howell are cheer leaders for the dragons

 

Simon Thomas seems to fawn over the blues to excess

 

Cmon steff get banging that scarlets drum :)

As I said it's a genuine debate,a great one to have-and I think people will argue the toss over Tipuric and Cubby for years to come-that's a great testament to the ability of both players.One question I'd pose,though-if Cubby is better at the break-down,doesn't that mean he's the stronger,physically more resilient player?

Especially liked his chase of our kicks when on the wing, he terrorised the Leinster defenders, up on them so quickly and add to that the threat of his turnover skills. Loved it. 

"It falls to you know who, James Davies. Go on, score, you deserve it, you absolutely deserve it & so do the Scarlets."

Yes that was a real belter. Can't remember a quality team being so comprehensively dismantled. They knew what was coming but were totally powerless to stop it. At that stage in his career Cubby was as close to being unplayable as any player I have seen since Barry John. 

The number of times the word ‘was’ is used next to Cubby when comparing with Tipuric is the main thing here. Tipuric is a different league. 

He is at it again 

Don't get upset

 

Not sure he;s the one getting upset, orders is writing an article with a direct quote from a world cup winning back row forward praising tupric and people are getting wound up by it

 

Seems people like yourself are the folk getting upset tbh

We can hardly accuse Mr Orders of bias when he is quoting others. Tipuric is extremely well thought of throughout the rugby world as his skill levels are obvious for all to see. Allied to a great skillset is his consistent levels of performance. In simple terms - a top player. 

Yes I've read the article and its stomach churning 

He really is a poor journo

Fwiw I think he is an excellent player.

I wish him well.

totally agree about seeing him back,the point was about order's man love for everything ospreylian a journalist should give a balanced view or go to work on the ospreys matchday programme.

you'd be ****** for posts if these threads stopped.

I acknowledge that Orders can be ... a little excitable ... where the Ospreys are concerned but I think Giles was looking quality before his injuries.

Hopefully he can get back to that level.

Not looking for an argument but I would put him a notch or two above Hewitt.

Only my opinion, of course.

He's an exciting talent but he ain't no LRZ.

More rubbish from Mark 'Make a list of my own opinions ' Orders.

He has a go at online abusers, but has a sly dig at the Welsh coaching set up himself for not picking Owen Watkin.

How this man earns a living writing such poo is beyond me 

he's got a big feature on the kids beating leinster today.

Read his articles. They are embarrassing. ]

I don't see why, top article on WOL, which is incidentally written by Mark is "The potential Lions who could make the squad without playing a minute of 6 nations rugby". Who could the accompanying picture be? Ross Morriarty? Ellis Jenkins? No it's Rhys Webb....

It’s why Daily Mail articles always end up with a woman in a bikini on the front 

In what respect?

If it’s that he only seems to write about the Ospreys, there’s a few journalists on there who it looks like are allocated to regions. Simon Thomas mainly does articles about us. 

... especially if the article is about how many children Mr Johnson has fathered...?

i don't know how i would have survived lockdown without the countless photos of amanda holden narrowly avoiding a wardrobe malfunction in her barely there outfit showing off her gym honed figure,not that i read it.

I disagree there Bubba, Simon seems to write about the blues as well, but Orders either writes about the ospreys, or about Wales, with particular love being paid to Welsh ospreys players. His fascination with Rhys Webb is quite disturbing. Just my opinion though, fine to disagree like.

There appears to be a clamour for Tomos to start for Wales and he has even been mentioned as a Lion. I have struggled to date to really see what all the fuss is about frankly. For me Cawdor & Hardy are a lot better all round and in hindsight I think Lloyd Williams would have made a better fist of closing that game out.

I think I see Tomos as having a higher ceiling than the other 9s you mention.

So while Cawdor has the pace and spark as good as any 9 in the world. His game management, slow ball when he gets tired and kicking game has always been inconsistent.

Hardy certainly has a lot of growth potential too and that England game might be the making of him.

Then Lloyd is probably the most reliable game manager, and kicks well and focuses on getting the ball out quick - but doesn’t really have that xfactor threat that you need in International game now.

I think Tomos has the pace, the handling, the kicking skills as good as a De Klerk or DuPont but his tackling and defensive positioning is often caught short. 

His mistakes have cost us two very painful results in rwc semi-final and last week. But I think he’s got the most ability to learn and grow from these games simply because his core skills are so good.

Next 5/6 years I expect we’ll see him and Hardy fighting it out for starter/finisher roles.

A few journalists are writing about it. So it’s not as if he’s in his own little world with the article. 

Think he's just having a laugh with it now.

i just read that ,i looked at ospreys number 1 on list and knew exactly who wrote it.

It’s a Swansea obsession here. 

you'd have diddly squat to post about if it wasn't 

I must admit though, I find moaning at his endless rubbish quite addictive 

Your obsessed by the obsession 

well said clement freud.

Anyone can cherry pic articles. 

"Like a whirling dervish with the ball in hand".... thus the Swansea-born literary lion describes none other than  Nicky Smith,Osprey.

Surprisingly no mention of Webb in his latest offering,in which he picks a Welsh side for the summer tour(just 2 Scarlets in starting 15,one of whom is Jac Morgan.)