Top 10 fastest welsh players ever over 50m?
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Topic: Top 10 fastest welsh players ever over 50m?
Posted By: roy munster
Subject: Top 10 fastest welsh players ever over 50m?
Date Posted: 24 February 2021 at 4:05pm
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The other great thread on the best carms based scarlets 15 got me thinking about another greatest ever list, who are the fastest ever welsh players over 50m? I go with 50m because 100m is redundant in rugby, its the first 50 that counts. Im guessing it will be mostly wingers but perhaps gareth edwards, jiffy and howley may be close too....Oh and aaron shingler  ------------- ROYMOND MUNTER MBE (FOR SERVICES TO THE COMBOVER) |
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Posted By: ap sior
Date Posted: 24 February 2021 at 4:11pm
| see below ! |
Posted By: ap sior
Date Posted: 24 February 2021 at 4:12pm
| JJ must be in with a shout, and Nigel Walker. |
Posted By: dyniol53
Date Posted: 24 February 2021 at 4:16pm
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North Shane Williams Ryan Bevington ------------- https://twitter.com/exile_podcast?lang=en |
Posted By: Wil Chips
Date Posted: 24 February 2021 at 4:48pm
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Standard test was over 40 mts. For Scarlets... Dale Ford - 4.84 Scott Williams 4.87 George North 4.97 |
Posted By: LLANDRE
Date Posted: 24 February 2021 at 4:55pm
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Nigel Walker did the 100m in 10.64 .
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Posted By: ladram
Date Posted: 24 February 2021 at 5:00pm
Impressive, all well and good but he knocked on over the line.
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LLANDRE wrote:Posted By: roy munster
Date Posted: 24 February 2021 at 5:23pm
I just googled olympian , Ken Jones he did 10.6 in the 1940s  ------------- ROYMOND MUNTER MBE (FOR SERVICES TO THE COMBOVER) |
Posted By: roy munster
Date Posted: 24 February 2021 at 5:24pm
wow stunned by this, dale ford ? whod have thought and also scott beating north. How quick was prime foxy over 40m? Ill throw in a curveball, steve bowling used to do my gas meter and he claimed he was neck and neck with jiffy and ieuan in training
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Posted By: RR1972
Date Posted: 24 February 2021 at 6:59pm
| Jiffy beat offiah over 20 metres he was electric off the mark. Cawdor is rapid from standing start. Mark jones Eli walker keelan giles and hewitt all v fast . Carwyn davies rip Wayne proctor Simon davies(the jack) and ieuan all flyers but surely walker and jj the quickest? This lrz lad looks quick mind |
Posted By: Wil Chips
Date Posted: 24 February 2021 at 7:05pm
Foxy and North carry a few more kgs.. Dale was a real shifter, as was Lee Rees. Both still playing in the Prem. Dale suffered terribly from poor injury luck ( leg fractures)...loved watching him run....he was like Morgan Stoddard meets Ieuan Evans. |
Posted By: RR1972
Date Posted: 24 February 2021 at 7:06pm
| Cordle could shift back in the 80s and this grace playinh rugby lge is v pacy |
Posted By: Dic Penderyn
Date Posted: 24 February 2021 at 7:27pm
I remember Lee Rees making a break off a scrum against Brive-electric,,and I think it resulted in a try for Darren Daniel,who was also seriously swift.
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Posted By: SospanMawr
Date Posted: 24 February 2021 at 8:50pm
2nd fastest - Chris Johnson (running back) who ran a 4.24 at 5ft11, 92kg!
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Posted By: dyniol53
Date Posted: 24 February 2021 at 9:33pm
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It’s funny isn’t it, cause it’s so rare you get an absolute footrace in rugby, I wonder how they measure agility / balance. Cause some of the best runners in the game aren’t express but sort of have this ability to glide past tacklers - Dan Carter was one, Sanjay, Redpath has a bit of it. ------------- https://twitter.com/exile_podcast?lang=en |
Posted By: tim d
Date Posted: 24 February 2021 at 9:43pm
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One of the fastest players I played with was current Rfc committee man Dk Richards. When it was his turn to buy a round you wouldn't see him for dust. ------------- I'm sick of it |
Posted By: ap sior
Date Posted: 24 February 2021 at 9:51pm
Regan King
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Posted By: roy munster
Date Posted: 24 February 2021 at 11:47pm
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Few random fliers from back in the day, elgan rees, clive rees, anthony sullivan ------------- ROYMOND MUNTER MBE (FOR SERVICES TO THE COMBOVER) |
Posted By: RR1972
Date Posted: 24 February 2021 at 11:53pm
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Jiffy out paced the nz defence from 80 yards out includuing terry wright for a try out in nz and gassed andrew leeds for a try at wembley vs the aussies in rugby lge v impressive. Roy is right sullivan a flyer to and his old man was
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Posted By: Tony Clifton
Date Posted: 25 February 2021 at 2:44am
I always liked watching Dale Ford, name I haven’t heard in years!
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Posted By: Wil Chips
Date Posted: 25 February 2021 at 5:12am
| Plying his trade with the Quins these days. |
Posted By: roy munster
Date Posted: 25 February 2021 at 9:48am
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Stoddart was mighty quick too ------------- ROYMOND MUNTER MBE (FOR SERVICES TO THE COMBOVER) |
Posted By: aber-fan
Date Posted: 25 February 2021 at 11:57am
That's right, isn't it? No-one would put Jac Morgan into this 'race', but the try he scored last week needed balance, strength, and hand-off ability in addition to speed... I always feel let down when someone with superb physical attributes, such as speed, fail to score by running poor lines. They don't seem to possess much 'geometry' or a snooker brain! ------------- “You cannot reason a man out of what he never reasoned himself into.” (Jonathan Swift) |
Posted By: Dai38
Date Posted: 25 February 2021 at 12:46pm
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One name missing who was faster than JJ over about 30/40 yards was Phil Bennet. I played with Clive Rees and he was fast, but he also said that many sprinters were not so quick over the first x yards, but powered through on the final 50. But what do I know I was a fat prop. ------------- Be careful when you pick up the stick.........IT MAY BE THE WRONG END!!!!!!!!!! |
Posted By: aber-fan
Date Posted: 25 February 2021 at 12:59pm
Billy Whizz (Rees) was seriously quick... but he's right - when you look at 100m sprints, they are often won in the final 20-30m by someone who really gets his/her wheels going towards the end. In rugby, it's usually more often the player who is very quick off the mark, and who can sprint for 25-40m, who can make a difference. Cawdor is a rare beast in that he can sustain his sprint for 80m or so, which is why he's scored so many intercept tries against top class - and fast - opponents. ------------- “You cannot reason a man out of what he never reasoned himself into.” (Jonathan Swift) |
Posted By: aber-fan
Date Posted: 25 February 2021 at 1:06pm
Benny could certainly shift - I was looking for a try scored for Lions v SA, where his speed was crucial to the result, but came across this wonderful compilation - the Lions try is there ,right at the end. (By god, this brought a smile to my face!): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b442KFQ4oUY" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b442KFQ4oUY" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b442KFQ4oUY ------------- “You cannot reason a man out of what he never reasoned himself into.” (Jonathan Swift) |
Posted By: LLANDRE
Date Posted: 25 February 2021 at 3:05pm
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Wayne Proctor was quick. He was a good 400m hurdler Chris Higgs ex Neath was quick too
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Posted By: roy munster
Date Posted: 25 February 2021 at 5:19pm
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Hard to measure king benny as he never ran in a straight line lol ------------- ROYMOND MUNTER MBE (FOR SERVICES TO THE COMBOVER) |
Posted By: Dic Penderyn
Date Posted: 25 February 2021 at 7:17pm
Biggs was a former hurdler,I think,too?
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Posted By: LLANDRE
Date Posted: 25 February 2021 at 7:25pm
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Chris Higgs rather. He was a 10.9 100m man.
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Posted By: jimmywilde
Date Posted: 25 February 2021 at 9:30pm
Brett Mullins was Oz fullback at Wembley. Just saying, like
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Posted By: Dic Penderyn
Date Posted: 25 February 2021 at 9:37pm
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[QUOTE=LLANDRE]Chris Higgs rather. He was a 10.9 100m man.
[/QUOTE Higgs!]Yes,very quick. Going back a bit further,Luc Evans the full-back could shift..
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Posted By: tannerbankboy
Date Posted: 25 February 2021 at 10:26pm
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Martyn Madden pdq as well |
Posted By: RR1972
Date Posted: 25 February 2021 at 11:22pm
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Posted By: Dic Penderyn
Date Posted: 25 February 2021 at 11:36pm
Marcus Thomas was very quick too
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Posted By: RR1972
Date Posted: 26 February 2021 at 9:14am
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I played age grade rugby vs Marcus he was from morriston/glais way yes very fast good shout. There was another hooker a guy called Hillman who was v good at sevens, think he was a copper Rio Dyer at the dragons is supposedly very fast and luke morgan at the ospreys is v fast he just isn't much of a rugby player tbh
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Posted By: roy munster
Date Posted: 26 February 2021 at 9:15am
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good shouts, any other welsh sevens players were forgetting? ------------- ROYMOND MUNTER MBE (FOR SERVICES TO THE COMBOVER) |
Posted By: Dic Penderyn
Date Posted: 26 February 2021 at 9:57am
| Chris Wyatt could move very quickly for a big man.I don't think I've seen a qicker forward play for the club than James Davies,though. |
Posted By: scarletnut
Date Posted: 26 February 2021 at 10:21am
------------- I still wake up late at night and think of what might have been when tim stimpson hit that jammy penalty1 |
Posted By: RR1972
Date Posted: 26 February 2021 at 10:29am
| Matthew robinson was fast , cuthbert is rapid when he’s in full flow but he takes a while to get going delme williams from neath was sharp prior to his injurys. From a standing start for me it’s jiffy for me once they are in stride it has to be walker. |
Posted By: RR1972
Date Posted: 26 February 2021 at 10:34am
and his trys in the cup final for the rfc, he is another long striding guy takes a while to get going but once he's in his stride he is really fast not a flyer but maule gassed bod on the outside once a fine achievement Ian Jones and Justin Thomas had pace to
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Posted By: surfing-mtber
Date Posted: 26 February 2021 at 11:18am
National standard junior 400m runner I believe. I remember his interview after that match, when asked about running around the winger and full back, he answered "I always back myself one on one in a sprint"! ------------- Joshua24:15 |
Posted By: GPR - Rochester
Date Posted: 26 February 2021 at 11:58am
| Shingler is one hell of an athlete. Not seen many quicker over 25 metres than Jiffy from a standing start. There are a multitude of quick guys but not that many who are lightning quick like LRZ. |
Posted By: RR1972
Date Posted: 26 February 2021 at 12:29pm
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LRZ is a junior sprint champion isn't he? he is really well balanced so doesn't lose speed when he steps a player, ieuan Gerald and shane had that gift Benny had a great step to and was rapid from a standing start but barry john ghosted past him on the outside in that televised urdd game a while back, he must have been rapid though his languid style made him look slow!
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Posted By: 157cb
Date Posted: 26 February 2021 at 12:45pm
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Phil Lewis Scarlets and Wales wing, quit top class rugby far to young, Rapid!
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Posted By: GPR - Rochester
Date Posted: 26 February 2021 at 1:11pm
Interestingly LRZ is getting quicker. He seems to glide past opponents. It takes a lot to make Hogg look pedestrian.
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Posted By: aber-fan
Date Posted: 26 February 2021 at 2:22pm
Barry John was deceptively quick, and had superb balance... he would wiggle his hips one way, waggle the ball the other, and as often as not, the defender would find himself on his arse as the 'King' waltzed past! One of the best examples was in the crucial win v France to cement the 1971 Grand Slam, though I have been unable to find good quality footage... this highlights reel shows just the end of John's run at around 4:30... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AAJ0WOsPkQg" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AAJ0WOsPkQg ------------- “You cannot reason a man out of what he never reasoned himself into.” (Jonathan Swift) |
Posted By: Boisbach
Date Posted: 26 February 2021 at 2:38pm
Agree Snap was electric. Went back to play for Llandybie I think at one stage.
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Posted By: RR1972
Date Posted: 26 February 2021 at 2:40pm
wasn't he a copper as well? |
Posted By: Dai38
Date Posted: 26 February 2021 at 4:18pm
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Anyone remember Gwyn Robins in the 60's, alternated between wing and backrow, I think he was from Pembrokeshire and always had a headband on, even though his hair was short, he was quick fdor an openside, as most of them were then. ------------- Be careful when you pick up the stick.........IT MAY BE THE WRONG END!!!!!!!!!! |
Posted By: ladram
Date Posted: 26 February 2021 at 4:35pm
Correct he went to llandybie when they definately weren't paying players yet they had him,mike lewis ,eddie james(hooker) and a few other former top players who all obviously went there for the warmer climate.
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Posted By: roy munster
Date Posted: 26 February 2021 at 5:01pm
Cant believe I forgot phil lewis, a flyer for sure. How many seasons tries did he bag for us then? ------------- ROYMOND MUNTER MBE (FOR SERVICES TO THE COMBOVER) |
Posted By: RR1972
Date Posted: 28 February 2021 at 1:58pm
| Lrz gassed jonny may. He is such an effortless runner lovely to watch |
Posted By: aber-fan
Date Posted: 28 February 2021 at 6:26pm
May was struggling, and still couldn't keep up - LRZ was cruising... too bad about that bounce! ------------- “You cannot reason a man out of what he never reasoned himself into.” (Jonathan Swift) |
Posted By: RR1972
Date Posted: 28 February 2021 at 6:29pm
| I’m sure Warbs said cuthbert quickest he played with? |
Posted By: roy munster
Date Posted: 31 December 2025 at 7:18am
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Any new flyers about ? ------------- ROYMOND MUNTER MBE (FOR SERVICES TO THE COMBOVER) |
Posted By: Paul10
Date Posted: 31 December 2025 at 9:55am
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Of the latest generation only Feyi-Waboso is super quick. Sadly, he's not Welsh for rugby anymore. I don't think Page, Bowen etc are as quick as those listed in the earlier posts.
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Posted By: RR1972
Date Posted: 31 December 2025 at 10:44am
| cawdor rapid over 50 jiffy fastest over 20 walker fastest over 100. lrz serious pace |