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What has changed since 2008...

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Topic: What has changed since 2008...
Posted By: aber-fan
Subject: What has changed since 2008...
Date Posted: 20 March 2021 at 9:00am
Just watched the 'Scrum V classic' grand slam game v France in 2008. It made interesting viewing.

Player welfare and refereeing
Enormous changes here - the reffing by SA ref Joncker was approximate, to say the least - he let a lot go, but it did mean more flow to the game. The most dramatic incident which would be dealt with very differently now concerned Gethin Jenkins, who, after a head clash with the France hooker, seemed KO for a couple of minutes - the physio came on to treat, but the game was allowed to continue. Even more surprisingly, he was allowed back on later in the game... it wouldn't happen now for sure.

Use of TMO
Hardly used at all - to check a high tackle by Henson (YC - could maybe have been a red now) and to confirm Shane W's try touchdown. No intervention by TMO when Traille punched Byrne in the face (RC now, almost certainly) - presumably, this was at a time when TMOs only intervened when the ref specifically asked their opinion. Later, Traille raked a player on the ground three times - nothing done about it. Even if his first punch/slap had been deemed a yellow - unlikely - this second act would have led to a second YC = RC.

What hasn't changed (much)
Some Wales tactics - specifically, kicking by the 9. Cawdor gets a lot of grief for kicking 'too long' - well, in 2008, Mike Phillips was doing exactly the same thing. Why? Because the tactic isn't (in those cases) to 'compete for the ball', but to gain territory. The stats showed that France had a lot more ball, but Wales a lot more territory... Wales also made a lot more tackles against French players trying (but rarely succeeding) to run the ball back.

It was nice to see a brilliant run of around 90m by Mark Jones, using speed, swerve and a bit of strength, before being hauled down 1m from the line - if he'd scored, it would have been one of the all-time great Wales tries. Unfortunately, Wales didn't keep possession and no try resulted... the two we got were scored from French errors  by ace predators Shane and Martyn Williams. It's set me up nicely for the day, though.





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Posted By: reesytheexile
Date Posted: 20 March 2021 at 10:53am
It was the size / muscularity of all players compared to now that was most noticeable! No wonder we have more injuries . Great memories though 

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Posted By: tim d
Date Posted: 20 March 2021 at 3:18pm
  I was at the game and one of the biggest differences between then and now is that rugby supporters use to go to games in those days. 

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