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Topic: Team vs Sale
Posted By: Wasp
Subject: Team vs Sale
Date Posted: 25 March 2021 at 6:31pm
Come on then! Let's look forward to some Cup Rugby.

15 1/2P
14 Sanj
13 Bleddyn
12 Fox (I think he's lost too much pace for 13)
11 Steff
10 Dinky, with Patch on the bench??
9. Cawdor (Don't @ me)
1. Wyn
2. Ken
3. ??
4. Lousi
5. Jake
6. Shingler
7. Jac
8. Sione


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Posted By: Eastern outpost
Date Posted: 25 March 2021 at 6:33pm
I thought the finances had taken a sudden turn for the worse...........

Delighted to see it was nothing of the sort.


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Posted By: PritchyTheScarlet
Date Posted: 25 March 2021 at 6:38pm
15. Halfpenny; 14. Sanjay, 13. Foxy, 12. Johnny, 11. Steff; 10. Dan (if Rhys isn't back), 9. Cawdor; 1. Wyn, 2. Ken, 3. Scholtz/Sebastian, 4. Jake, 5. Lousi, 6. Shings, 7. Jac, 8. Sione




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Posted By: Wasp
Date Posted: 25 March 2021 at 6:39pm
Originally posted by Eastern outpost Eastern outpost wrote:

I thought the finances had taken a sudden turn for the worse...........

Delighted to see it was nothing of the sort.
Everything is for sale at the right price Wink


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Posted By: Tony Clifton
Date Posted: 25 March 2021 at 8:51pm
Originally posted by Wasp Wasp wrote:

Come on then! Let's look forward to some Cup Rugby.

15 1/2P
14 Sanj
13 Bleddyn
12 Fox (I think he's lost too much pace for 13)
11 Steff
10 Dinky, with Patch on the bench??
9. Cawdor (Don't @ me)
1. Wyn
2. Ken
3. ??
4. Lousi
5. Jake
6. Shingler
7. Jac
8. Sione

It’d be a shame to waste JBR at 13. He’s the 12 for the future so I’d play him there.


Posted By: Wasp
Date Posted: 25 March 2021 at 8:53pm
Probably right at JW at 13

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Posted By: PE SA
Date Posted: 26 March 2021 at 7:20am
Hopeful 15:

15. Halfpenny
14. Rogers
13. Foxy
12. Johnny
11. Sanjay
10. Dan
9. Cawdor
8. Kalamafoni 
7. Jac
6. Shingler 
5. Lousi 
4. Jake
3. Schultz
2. Ken
1. Wyn 

Hopeful bench:
16. Elias
17. Rob
18. Samson
19. Morgan Jones
20. Cassiem
21. Blacker
22. Costellow
23. Steff Hughes 


Posted By: Fscarlet
Date Posted: 26 March 2021 at 7:48am
Originally posted by PE SA PE SA wrote:

Hopeful 15:

15. Halfpenny
14. Rogers
13. Foxy
12. Johnny
11. Sanjay
10. Dan
9. Cawdor
8. Kalamafoni 
7. Jac
6. Shingler 
5. Lousi 
4. Jake
3. Schultz
2. Ken
1. Wyn 

Hopeful bench:
16. Elias
17. Rob
18. Samson
19. Morgan Jones
20. Cassiem
21. Blacker
22. Costellow
23. Steff Hughes 

Any news on Rob & Samson's concussion?


Posted By: ladram
Date Posted: 26 March 2021 at 8:00am
Originally posted by Fscarlet Fscarlet wrote:

Originally posted by PE SA PE SA wrote:

Hopeful 15:

15. Halfpenny
14. Rogers
13. Foxy
12. Johnny
11. Sanjay
10. Dan
9. Cawdor
8. Kalamafoni 
7. Jac
6. Shingler 
5. Lousi 
4. Jake
3. Schultz
2. Ken
1. Wyn 

Hopeful bench:
16. Elias
17. Rob
18. Samson
19. Morgan Jones
20. Cassiem
21. Blacker
22. Costellow
23. Steff Hughes 

Any news on Rob & Samson's concussion?
Anyone know if the other regions have as many concussion injuries as we do? 


Posted By: GPR - Rochester
Date Posted: 26 March 2021 at 8:09am
Patchell having scan this week on hamstring injury so he will be out for 4-8 weeks. Hardy was given 4-6 weeks after his scan so tomorrow is week 4. Haven't heard any news on Rob/Samson/Blade & their concussions issues which must be pretty severe as both Rob & Samson have been out for 3 months. Can't really see any of them featuring against Sale. Our front row should be Wyn, Ken, Pieter with Steffan, Ryan & Javan on the bench.

All returning Internationals must feature if we are to stand any chance of progressing in Europe. We have two winnable games ahead of us with Sale & either Gloucester or La Rochelle. That really is one of easier routes to a semi final with the likes of Leinster, Munster, Exeter, Toulouse & Racing being avoided. 


Posted By: Fscarlet
Date Posted: 26 March 2021 at 8:21am
Originally posted by ladram ladram wrote:

Originally posted by Fscarlet Fscarlet wrote:

Originally posted by PE SA PE SA wrote:

Hopeful 15:

15. Halfpenny
14. Rogers
13. Foxy
12. Johnny
11. Sanjay
10. Dan
9. Cawdor
8. Kalamafoni 
7. Jac
6. Shingler 
5. Lousi 
4. Jake
3. Schultz
2. Ken
1. Wyn 

Hopeful bench:
16. Elias
17. Rob
18. Samson
19. Morgan Jones
20. Cassiem
21. Blacker
22. Costellow
23. Steff Hughes 

Any news on Rob & Samson's concussion?
Anyone know if the other regions have as many concussion injuries as we do? 

I mentioned that a little while ago when we had a lot of players down as concussed but no one knew.


Posted By: thommo
Date Posted: 26 March 2021 at 9:41am
Any news on Johnny Mcnicholl?


Posted By: M.M.
Date Posted: 26 March 2021 at 10:47am

If you are members of CRYS16, Glen is meeting supporters via Zoom next Tuesday night.

We may get some info as to our injured players then.


Posted By: 157cb
Date Posted: 26 March 2021 at 11:09am

  Hopefully the likes of Mcnicholl, Costelow, Rob, Samson and Blade will be available for selection.


Posted By: Mugwuffin
Date Posted: 26 March 2021 at 12:05pm
I saw Samson and Rob training together on the field earlier this week. There were no other players there so they’re probably not due back imminently, but it was good to see them with boots on having a workout. 


Posted By: supertaf
Date Posted: 26 March 2021 at 12:14pm
15 1/2P
14 Sanj
13 Steff H
12 Johnny W
11 Steff
10 Dinky
9. Cawdor 
1. Wyn
2. Ken
3. Scholtz
4. Lousi
5. Jake
6. Shingler
7. Jac
8. Sione

Im happier with Steff at 13 as things stand, Fox is still way off although it hasnt helped that hes been out of position with Wales.


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Posted By: EJPT
Date Posted: 26 March 2021 at 12:35pm
I’d be happy with Javan or Scholz. Javan looked fired up last game and Scholz is strong as an ox.


Posted By: Tony Clifton
Date Posted: 26 March 2021 at 12:52pm
Originally posted by EJPT EJPT wrote:

I’d be happy with Javan or Scholz. Javan looked fired up last game and Scholz is strong as an ox.
Scholz is a good one. He’s improving every week and I’d be thrilled if we extend him long term. Same for Javan, he’s really developing into a solid prop.


Posted By: PritchyTheScarlet
Date Posted: 26 March 2021 at 1:14pm
Originally posted by supertaf supertaf wrote:

15 1/2P
14 Sanj
13 Steff H
12 Johnny W
11 Steff
10 Dinky
9. Cawdor 
1. Wyn
2. Ken
3. Scholtz
4. Lousi
5. Jake
6. Shingler
7. Jac
8. Sione

Im happier with Steff at 13 as things stand, Fox is still way off although it hasnt helped that hes been out of position with Wales.

You could see signs of improvement with Foxy in the last couple of games of the Championship. His performance against France was one of his best in a long while. I'd be more than happy with a Steff-Johnny midfield partnership, though.


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Posted By: GPR - Rochester
Date Posted: 26 March 2021 at 1:18pm
No disrespect meant to Steff Hughes, who has many excellent attributes, but a Foxy who is a yard slower than the old one is still far superior to anyone else in the 13 shirt because of his wonderful positioning sense & strength in defence. 


Posted By: aber-fan
Date Posted: 26 March 2021 at 1:27pm
Originally posted by GPR - Rochester GPR - Rochester wrote:

No disrespect meant to Steff Hughes, who has many excellent attributes, but a Foxy who is a yard slower than the old one is still far superior to anyone else in the 13 shirt because of his wonderful positioning sense & strength in defence. 

Foxy had his best game since return from injury v France - he looked a bit like his old self!


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Posted By: scarletsrules
Date Posted: 26 March 2021 at 1:34pm
We have to go with our strongest available side , Sale will be a tough opposition and will come here all guns blazing


Posted By: tannerbankboy
Date Posted: 26 March 2021 at 1:54pm
Originally posted by Mugwuffin Mugwuffin wrote:

I saw Samson and Rob training together on the field earlier this week. There were no other players there so they’re probably not due back imminently, but it was good to see them with boots on having a workout. 
What's this positive injury news?  I checked to see if it was 1st April for a minute.


Posted By: Fscarlet
Date Posted: 26 March 2021 at 2:00pm
Originally posted by tannerbankboy tannerbankboy wrote:

Originally posted by Mugwuffin Mugwuffin wrote:

I saw Samson and Rob training together on the field earlier this week. There were no other players there so they’re probably not due back imminently, but it was good to see them with boots on having a workout. 
What's this positive injury news?  I checked to see if it was 1st April for a minute.

That suggests they are still going through the return to play protocols in that case so they still have to pass contact training.


Posted By: sgsmorgan
Date Posted: 26 March 2021 at 4:18pm
Originally posted by aber-fan aber-fan wrote:

Originally posted by GPR - Rochester GPR - Rochester wrote:

No disrespect meant to Steff Hughes, who has many excellent attributes, but a Foxy who is a yard slower than the old one is still far superior to anyone else in the 13 shirt because of his wonderful positioning sense & strength in defence. 

Foxy had his best game since return from injury v France - he looked a bit like his old self!


I'll warrant that had Pivac not [beep]ed up and made those four immediate replacements and had Foxy been left on, France might not have scored that last try. His sense of positioning and organisation in defence would have been head and shoulders above that of either North or HallHolo


Posted By: EJPT
Date Posted: 26 March 2021 at 5:35pm
Yeah to be honest I too thought bringing on so many subs with little experience really hampered our chances. Biggar was having a great game, but Wales have done brilliantly to be honest despite the result. Just hoping for a fired up ruthless Scotland. Everyone has been unfairly Writing them off this week saying 21+ point win in the bag for france. 


Posted By: aber-fan
Date Posted: 27 March 2021 at 6:28am
Originally posted by EJPT EJPT wrote:

Yeah to be honest I too thought bringing on so many subs with little experience really hampered our chances. Biggar was having a great game, but Wales have done brilliantly to be honest despite the result. Just hoping for a fired up ruthless Scotland. Everyone has been unfairly Writing them off this week saying 21+ point win in the bag for france. 

Including the France captain - which seriously hacked off Hogg and got the Scots' dander up!


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Posted By: surfing-mtber
Date Posted: 27 March 2021 at 7:35am
I think it's about time I got a life. Reading this forum when I'm half asleep,  was about to comment that instead of starting another thread, this 'Team for Sale' should surely be better served in 'Rugby Selling Out '.
Must get out more! Embarrassed


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Posted By: Maple
Date Posted: 27 March 2021 at 8:24am
Pardon my ignorance, but who is Bleddyn?

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Posted By: Fscarlet
Date Posted: 27 March 2021 at 9:32am
Originally posted by Maple Maple wrote:

Pardon my ignorance, but who is Bleddyn?

Johnny Williams. I think it’s his middle name. 


Posted By: Wasp
Date Posted: 27 March 2021 at 9:45am
Originally posted by Fscarlet Fscarlet wrote:

Originally posted by Maple Maple wrote:

Pardon my ignorance, but who is Bleddyn?

Johnny Williams. I think it’s his middle name. 
Yep. Already too many Williams in the squad, and we have another Johnny, so Bleddyn it must be!


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Posted By: ChrisX
Date Posted: 27 March 2021 at 1:19pm
I think Kieran Hardy said last week he was a 'couple of weeks' away from playing, that was last week before the France game so potentially all being well in contention for Sale? 


Posted By: Tony Clifton
Date Posted: 27 March 2021 at 1:28pm
Originally posted by Wasp Wasp wrote:

Originally posted by Fscarlet Fscarlet wrote:

Originally posted by Maple Maple wrote:

Pardon my ignorance, but who is Bleddyn?

Johnny Williams. I think it’s his middle name. 
Yep. Already too many Williams in the squad, and we have another Johnny, so Bleddyn it must be!
Future legend JBR Williams! Just needs the chops.


Posted By: Wasp
Date Posted: 27 March 2021 at 4:52pm
Watching Wasps v Sale now. Sale look competent, but not unbeatable. Faf de Klerk not playing, not sure why.
I think we can beat them, the question is how many changes Glenn will introduce with the Wales players back, and how well we gel.


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Posted By: Lee
Date Posted: 27 March 2021 at 5:07pm
If nothing else, the game will give us a bit a practice playing against South African teams.Embarrassed


Posted By: ladram
Date Posted: 27 March 2021 at 5:23pm
Originally posted by Wasp Wasp wrote:

Watching Wasps v Sale now. Sale look competent, but not unbeatable. Faf de Klerk not playing, not sure why.
I think we can beat them, the question is how many changes Glenn will introduce with the Wales players back, and how well we gel.
well i hope it's as well as the second half last monday not the first.LOL


Posted By: Wil Chips
Date Posted: 27 March 2021 at 5:54pm
Originally posted by Wasp Wasp wrote:

Watching Wasps v Sale now. Sale look competent, but not unbeatable. Faf de Klerk not playing, not sure why.
I think we can beat them, the question is how many changes Glenn will introduce with the Wales players back, and how well we gel.


An atypical Prem sides for me. Lots of contact skills, proficiency in the set piece, solid defence, not so much invested in flair,


Posted By: scarletsim
Date Posted: 27 March 2021 at 5:57pm
Could be a question of who keeps their discipline best. Sale have just given away three yellows in eleven minutes


Posted By: Jones2004
Date Posted: 27 March 2021 at 5:59pm
3 yellow cards today for Sale, 11 (if I heard right!) for the season. Discipline definitely an area we could target, although I’m sure they’d be saying exactly the same!


Posted By: scarletsim
Date Posted: 27 March 2021 at 6:08pm
Make that four yellow cards...


Posted By: turkishrebel
Date Posted: 27 March 2021 at 6:20pm
Sale have a few players out, curry boys de klerk to name a few. Will be very very tough.
Have a massive 12 who we need to put down. 


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Posted By: scarletsim
Date Posted: 27 March 2021 at 6:23pm
Credit to Sale for winning that game but Wasps were tactically naive and if you can’t score a try v 13 you deserve to lose


Posted By: gorau
Date Posted: 27 March 2021 at 6:55pm
My team v Sale 
15 - Liam Williams / Leigh Halfpenny
14 - Johnny McNicholl / Liam Williams
13 - Jonathan Davies
12 - Johnny Williams
11 - Steff Evans
10 - Rhys Patchell / Dan Jones
9 - Gareth Davies
8 - Sione Kalamafoni 
7 - Jac Morgan
6 - Aaron Shingler
5 - Sam Lousi
4 - Jake Ball
3 - Pieter Scholtz
2 - Ken Owens
1 - Wyn Jones 

Bench 
16 - Ryan Elias
17 - Rob Evans / Phil Price
18 - Javan Sebastien / Samson Lee
19 - Morgan Jones
20 - Uzair Cassiem / James Davies
21 - Kieran Hardy 
22 - Dan Jones / Angus O'Brien
23 - Leigh Halfpenny/ Steff Hughes 




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Posted By: 157cb
Date Posted: 27 March 2021 at 6:57pm

  They will bring De Klerk, De Jaeger, Johnno Ross and Tom Curry into that 23 .

   We need to them up front, possibly target there scrum . We will need to bring Wyn ,Ken, Jake up front ,possibly Blade on bench to cover lock, if fit ??

   I would start Sanjay at 15, with Halfers on wing ,for his counter attack from deep . Sale defend very narrow,I felt they were sealing off a lot ,and looking to seal off at breakdown .

      This will be a titanic clash, we have won our last four games against English opposition .


Posted By: EJPT
Date Posted: 27 March 2021 at 7:03pm
Wyn and Ken Owens back in form will be welcome additions. 


Posted By: RR1972
Date Posted: 27 March 2021 at 8:38pm
Sale front 5 is v decent, theyll go at our tight heads and our sub loose head. We could do with rob and sampson back


Posted By: Legendinmybathroom
Date Posted: 27 March 2021 at 8:46pm
Gosh Sale must be almost as indisciplined as us, we may end up with a game of 7s in the end😂.
I wonder whether bringing back any of the international players will make any difference if we go into the game with our recent game plan.  First half against Connacht and in most of the games this season our game plan seemed to be kick deep and back our defence and pick up penalties or turnovers in or around the opposition 10 mitre/25 mitre lines.
In the second half it seemed like the players threw that game plan away and went for bust (in order to save their European cup qualifying hopes), and we really looked useful.  Play with that freedom we could surprise Sale, play to the first half game plan and it could be a very uncomfortable evening for all involved.



Posted By: GPR - Rochester
Date Posted: 28 March 2021 at 8:52am
I hope that all returning Internationals feature in the starting 15. Also I think we have to seriously consider having Tom Rogers in the back 3. We are a team who lack real pace & he showed what he can do 2nd half against Connacht. Don't see them putting Johnny Mc straight back in so an interesting selection dilemma from Halfpenny, Liam, Steff Evans & Tom. 

To win against Sale as all Premiership teams we will have to be solid in the front 5. RR has highlighted above where they will go for us for sure. Pieter & Javan have fronted up well recently in all fairness & Steffan Thomas has done all asked of him - admittedly this is going to be a big step up for them. 


Posted By: Peter
Date Posted: 28 March 2021 at 9:42am
Its goiing to be one hell of a game.Faff and Lood is goiing to be back for them as well.


Posted By: hoppy
Date Posted: 28 March 2021 at 2:30pm
Will the welsh internationals be available for sale or rested 


Posted By: scarletnut
Date Posted: 28 March 2021 at 2:37pm
Originally posted by hoppy hoppy wrote:

Will the welsh internationals be available for sale or rested 
Available 

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Posted By: Fscarlet
Date Posted: 29 March 2021 at 9:05am
My team for the match

L.Halfpenny, L.Williams, J.Davies, J.Williams, S.Evans, D.Jones, G.Davies; W.Jones, K.Owens, P.Scholtz, J.Ball, S.Louisi, A.Shingler, J.Morgan, S.Kalamafoni

I'm guessing Halfpenny is ok in terms of concussion.


Posted By: scarletsrules
Date Posted: 29 March 2021 at 9:11am
Does anyone know how long Patch is ruled out for now?


Posted By: Fscarlet
Date Posted: 29 March 2021 at 9:14am
Originally posted by scarletsrules scarletsrules wrote:

Does anyone know how long Patch is ruled out for now?

No, it was a hammy so hopefully it was just a twinge.


Posted By: GPR - Rochester
Date Posted: 29 March 2021 at 9:18am
Originally posted by Fscarlet Fscarlet wrote:

Originally posted by scarletsrules scarletsrules wrote:

Does anyone know how long Patch is ruled out for now?

No, it was a hammy so hopefully it was just a twinge.

Only report I have read suggest more than a twinge. 4-8 weeks I guess depending on the scan result. 


Posted By: supertaf
Date Posted: 29 March 2021 at 1:15pm
Originally posted by Lee Lee wrote:

If nothing else, the game will give us a bit a practice playing against South African teams.Embarrassed
Probably less South Africans playing for the super rugby sides LOL


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Posted By: supertaf
Date Posted: 29 March 2021 at 1:18pm
Originally posted by RR1972 RR1972 wrote:

Sale front 5 is v decent, theyll go at our tight heads and our sub loose head. We could do with rob and sampson back
Rob only plays european games so he could be LOL


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Posted By: ChrisX
Date Posted: 29 March 2021 at 1:23pm
wasn't Steff Evans replaced against Connacht? Injured? No news on McNicholl after he went off in Munster? Could Tom Rogers start wing?




Posted By: PE SA
Date Posted: 29 March 2021 at 1:29pm
Originally posted by GPR - Rochester GPR - Rochester wrote:

I hope that all returning Internationals feature in the starting 15. Also I think we have to seriously consider having Tom Rogers in the back 3. We are a team who lack real pace & he showed what he can do 2nd half against Connacht. Don't see them putting Johnny Mc straight back in so an interesting selection dilemma from Halfpenny, Liam, Steff Evans & Tom. 

To win against Sale as all Premiership teams we will have to be solid in the front 5. RR has highlighted above where they will go for us for sure. Pieter & Javan have fronted up well recently in all fairness & Steffan Thomas has done all asked of him - admittedly this is going to be a big step up for them. 

Tom for Steff Evs for me. Steff Evs hasnt really done anything of note for quite some time. Id even hazard a guess if he would have been on the wing for the pas out wide, he wouldnt have finished it off IMO. Either tackled before the line or would have kicked it away.

Tom Rogers showed a very calm head to score the try in the corner (in the end ruled out due to schultz forearm offence) - but that was a calm finish allowing the ball to do majority ofthe work, didnt panic, lovely finish. The second try - what can be said. an incredible sidestep and a brilliant finish against was it 3 very quick Connacht players. For me, the next few games, he starts.

Steff perhaps could do with missing a few games until he gets his mojo back. He's been a mainstay in the side all season and may well need a bit of a break. I personally cant see Tom Rogers offering any less than Steff v Sale - potentially more if anything. Halfpenny, Sanjay and Rogers for me in back 3.


Posted By: greypower1
Date Posted: 29 March 2021 at 1:36pm
Where has Ryan Conbeer gone?

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Posted By: Fscarlet
Date Posted: 29 March 2021 at 1:44pm
Originally posted by greypower1 greypower1 wrote:

Where has Ryan Conbeer gone?

Injured his ankle.


Posted By: 157cb
Date Posted: 29 March 2021 at 1:57pm

  My back three would be ,15, Sanjay, 14,, Halfers and 11,Rogers( young Sanay )


Posted By: turkishrebel
Date Posted: 29 March 2021 at 2:09pm
who would your midfield be Mark?

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Posted By: Fscarlet
Date Posted: 29 March 2021 at 2:13pm
Originally posted by 157cb 157cb wrote:


  My back three would be ,15, Sanjay, 14,, Halfers and 11,Rogers( young Sanay )

I liked the look of Rogers against Connacht, felt he could go well from the bench against Sale when things break up.


Posted By: turkishrebel
Date Posted: 29 March 2021 at 2:17pm
sale have a massive 12 (18 stoner cant remember  his name). he will be coming down the 10/12 channel so we need to be very solid there. their backrow is good to with curry so we need to stop them at source. will be interesting to see who is picked at 10

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Posted By: 157cb
Date Posted: 29 March 2021 at 2:45pm
Originally posted by turkishrebel turkishrebel wrote:

who would your midfield be Mark?

  Dinky, Bleddyn and Foxy ,with Costelow and Steff Hughes on bench 


Posted By: Peter
Date Posted: 29 March 2021 at 4:21pm
Originally posted by turkishrebel turkishrebel wrote:

sale have a massive 12 (18 stoner cant remember  his name). he will be coming down the 10/12 channel so we need to be very solid there. their backrow is good to with curry so we need to stop them at source. will be interesting to see who is picked at 10
Rohan janse van rensburg


Posted By: GPR - Rochester
Date Posted: 29 March 2021 at 4:39pm
Originally posted by Peter Peter wrote:

Originally posted by turkishrebel turkishrebel wrote:

sale have a massive 12 (18 stoner cant remember  his name). he will be coming down the 10/12 channel so we need to be very solid there. their backrow is good to with curry so we need to stop them at source. will be interesting to see who is picked at 10
Rohan janse van rensburg

Thats the guy Peter - big unit.


Posted By: Mr Ian
Date Posted: 29 March 2021 at 6:05pm
Sale is a Bokkies succursale, twins Du Preez, de Klerk, big second row ...wiill be an hard game for us, but if we play with our freedom, maybe can have some occasions 


Posted By: scarletnut
Date Posted: 29 March 2021 at 6:18pm
Originally posted by 157cb 157cb wrote:

Originally posted by turkishrebel turkishrebel wrote:

who would your midfield be Mark?

  Dinky, Bleddyn and Foxy ,with Costelow and Steff Hughes on bench 
Hughes over Foxy

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Posted By: EJPT
Date Posted: 29 March 2021 at 6:56pm
Yeah Hughes had his best game for us against connacht. Think he should start, Foxy on the bench. 


Posted By: Eastern outpost
Date Posted: 29 March 2021 at 9:01pm
We need people that are fully committed to the shirt. There’s no faulting Steff Hughes on that front.

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Posted By: 157cb
Date Posted: 29 March 2021 at 9:03pm
Originally posted by scarletnut scarletnut wrote:

Originally posted by 157cb 157cb wrote:

Originally posted by turkishrebel turkishrebel wrote:

who would your midfield be Mark?

  Dinky, Bleddyn and Foxy ,with Costelow and Steff Hughes on bench 
Hughes over Foxy


   No probs with Stef Hughes starting was superb against Connacht!


Posted By: Wil Chips
Date Posted: 29 March 2021 at 9:38pm
Superb in the 2nd half perhaps.

Has to be Jonny W and Foxy for me.



Posted By: thommo
Date Posted: 29 March 2021 at 9:46pm
Originally posted by Wil Chips Wil Chips wrote:

Superb in the 2nd half perhaps.

Has to be Jonny W and Foxy for me.

100%. Most important game of the season thus. Hopefully we will have Mcnixholl back to add some cutting edge.


Posted By: Mugwuffin
Date Posted: 29 March 2021 at 10:10pm
Originally posted by Wil Chips Wil Chips wrote:

Superb in the 2nd half perhaps.

Has to be Jonny W and Foxy for me.

Which way around would you have them? I think Foxy has struggled a bit at 13 for us this season. If Williams is comfortable defending there I’d be tempted to keep Foxy at 12.  


Posted By: Grammar School Boy
Date Posted: 29 March 2021 at 10:18pm
Originally posted by Eastern outpost Eastern outpost wrote:

We need people that are fully committed to the shirt. There’s no faulting Steff Hughes on that front.

No, he just cannot help he is a bit undersized and lacks acceleration.


Posted By: Tony Clifton
Date Posted: 29 March 2021 at 10:18pm
Originally posted by Mugwuffin Mugwuffin wrote:

Originally posted by Wil Chips Wil Chips wrote:

Superb in the 2nd half perhaps.

Has to be Jonny W and Foxy for me.

Which way around would you have them? I think Foxy has struggled a bit at 13 for us this season. If Williams is comfortable defending there I’d be tempted to keep Foxy at 12.  
Johnny is a 12, and a better 12 than Foxy imho. Keep the best player for the position there. We are weak at 13 though.


Posted By: Wil Chips
Date Posted: 29 March 2021 at 10:25pm
Originally posted by Mugwuffin Mugwuffin wrote:

Originally posted by Wil Chips Wil Chips wrote:

Superb in the 2nd half perhaps.

Has to be Jonny W and Foxy for me.


Which way around would you have them? I think Foxy has struggled a bit at 13 for us this season. If Williams is comfortable defending there I’d be tempted to keep Foxy at 12.  


Foxy defending at 12. That might mean he plays the whole game there, which I’m mot against, but it’s a bit harsh on Jonny W.


Posted By: Jones2004
Date Posted: 29 March 2021 at 10:26pm
As much as I rate Steff Hughes, Foxy started to return back to form by the end of the Six Nations and you need you’re class players in the team for these big games. Therefore Bleddyn at 12 and Foxy at 13 for me. I would have no complaints however if Steff Hughes was in there instead. If Conbeer is still injured I’d like to see Tom Rogers start as long as the coaches think his defence is up to standard. I’d have him ahead of Steff Evans as Evans’ play has been below his normal level all season and we desperately lack speed in our backline.


Posted By: RR1972
Date Posted: 30 March 2021 at 10:31am
If fit foxy will play and rightly so


Posted By: Realwest
Date Posted: 30 March 2021 at 11:18am
Jonny Williams at 12 would handle Von Rensburg he’s a solid defender 


Posted By: EJPT
Date Posted: 30 March 2021 at 3:45pm
Sanjay to start at fullback for me. Crazy to think this season is effectively coming to an end (pro14 already over) and it will be his third game back for us. Halfpenny played against Ireland all those weeks ago, players need a run of games. Frustratingly our best players haven’t had that. Its a tough call. 

Fly half i’d probably choose Dinky. Patchell being fit doesnt change things, he pulled out last week because of a hamstring, a high risk throwing him in there off the back of that.

Scrum half Cawdor, I bet he’ll be motivated going up against Faf and Blacker off the bench with all the pace and energy he brings could turn things in our favour. Not sure on the status of Hardy. 



Posted By: scarletnut
Date Posted: 30 March 2021 at 4:30pm
Originally posted by EJPT EJPT wrote:

Sanjay to start at fullback for me. Crazy to think this season is effectively coming to an end (pro14 already over) and it will be his third game back for us. Halfpenny played against Ireland all those weeks ago, players need a run of games. Frustratingly our best players haven’t had that. Its a tough call. 

Fly half i’d probably choose Dinky. Patchell being fit doesnt change things, he pulled out last week because of a hamstring, a high risk throwing him in there off the back of that.

Scrum half Cawdor, I bet he’ll be motivated going up against Faf and Blacker off the bench with all the pace and energy he brings could turn things in our favour. Not sure on the status of Hardy. 

They need Halfpenny’s positional play, defensive ability and goal kicking for this one. Patchell isn’t fit and unless something has changed over the last few days won’t be for a while 

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Posted By: Mr Ian
Date Posted: 30 March 2021 at 5:04pm
The back of internationals will be different then november, now they.are all in good form, mental and fitness too...the right occasion for play an european match 


Posted By: Wasp
Date Posted: 30 March 2021 at 5:07pm
1/2p is still a much better all round 15 than Sanjay. 

Edit: Maybe not much better, but definitely better.


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Posted By: Mugwuffin
Date Posted: 30 March 2021 at 5:15pm
Originally posted by Wasp Wasp wrote:

1/2p is still a much better all round 15 than Sanjay. 

Edit: Maybe not much better, but definitely better.
I think Liam surpassed him a few seasons ago. Halfpenny is still a very solid 15, and I’d start him against Sale as Liam is needed on the wing, but goal kicking aside I don’t think Lee offers much that Liam doesn’t these days. 


Posted By: scarletnut
Date Posted: 30 March 2021 at 5:16pm
Originally posted by Mugwuffin Mugwuffin wrote:

Originally posted by Wasp Wasp wrote:

1/2p is still a much better all round 15 than Sanjay. 

Edit: Maybe not much better, but definitely better.
I think Liam surpassed him a few seasons ago. Halfpenny is still a very solid 15, and I’d start him against Sale as Liam is needed on the wing, but goal kicking aside I don’t think Lee offers much that Liam doesn’t these days. 
Apart from his decision making and positional play IMO

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Posted By: Wasp
Date Posted: 30 March 2021 at 5:31pm
Originally posted by Mugwuffin Mugwuffin wrote:

Originally posted by Wasp Wasp wrote:

1/2p is still a much better all round 15 than Sanjay. 

Edit: Maybe not much better, but definitely better.
I think Liam surpassed him a few seasons ago. Halfpenny is still a very solid 15, and I’d start him against Sale as Liam is needed on the wing, but goal kicking aside I don’t think Lee offers much that Liam doesn’t these days. 
When was Leigh last carded? 
His positional play is phenomenal. He's not the counter attacker that Sanjay is, but how often does Liam make a clean break compared to how often he has a brain fart or concede a penalty? 

I think in terms of points difference per game, 1/2p is definitely the better value player. Sanjay is definitely a starter for me, on the wing though


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Posted By: Maple
Date Posted: 30 March 2021 at 5:51pm
Cotellow at 10

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Posted By: Mugwuffin
Date Posted: 30 March 2021 at 6:21pm
Originally posted by Wasp Wasp wrote:

Originally posted by Mugwuffin Mugwuffin wrote:

Originally posted by Wasp Wasp wrote:

1/2p is still a much better all round 15 than Sanjay. 

Edit: Maybe not much better, but definitely better.
I think Liam surpassed him a few seasons ago. Halfpenny is still a very solid 15, and I’d start him against Sale as Liam is needed on the wing, but goal kicking aside I don’t think Lee offers much that Liam doesn’t these days. 
When was Leigh last carded? 
His positional play is phenomenal. He's not the counter attacker that Sanjay is, but how often does Liam make a clean break compared to how often he has a brain fart or concede a penalty? 

I think in terms of points difference per game, 1/2p is definitely the better value player. Sanjay is definitely a starter for me, on the wing though
Liam’s discipline isn’t as bad as most people think. He averages around one card per season. 

I don’t see many brain farts from him. I think he’s safe as houses at 15 and due to his height and ability to catch the ball over his head, is even better under the high balls than Halfpenny. 


Posted By: mr geraint
Date Posted: 30 March 2021 at 7:19pm
Look at us, all fancy: which Lions fullback will we play this week?


Posted By: tannerbankboy
Date Posted: 30 March 2021 at 7:29pm
Originally posted by Wasp Wasp wrote:

1/2p is still a much better all round 15 than Sanjay. 

Edit: Maybe not much better, but definitely better.
Both to play if available for me, leaves Steff Evans and Mc Nic to fight out the other place.  On current form that's Steff.


Posted By: thommo
Date Posted: 30 March 2021 at 10:13pm
Originally posted by tannerbankboy tannerbankboy wrote:

Originally posted by Wasp Wasp wrote:

1/2p is still a much better all round 15 than Sanjay. 

Edit: Maybe not much better, but definitely better.
Both to play if available for me, leaves Steff Evans and Mc Nic to fight out the other place.  On current form that's Steff.
Going on current form wouldn't be steff.


Posted By: Tony Clifton
Date Posted: 31 March 2021 at 12:42am
Liam is a better fullback than given credit for. He was reliable in defence, far better under the highball, and our attack looked far better with him hitting the backline. Discipline was good all 6N, kept his head on, and was unfairly carded v France. Not sure Steff is the best wing on form, he’s distinctly slower than whoever he comes up against, and just relies on kicking to try and make ground.


Posted By: GPR - Rochester
Date Posted: 31 March 2021 at 7:35am
Don't think Tom Rogers should be left out of discussion in our back 3 selection. Two Lions available = both play simple decision. Halfpenny has no competition in Europe as a defensive FB & add in his goalkicking and it would be foolish in the extreme to not play him 15. 


Posted By: 157cb
Date Posted: 31 March 2021 at 11:49am

  Tom Rogers should start for me, as I previously said.Liam at full back for his better counterattacking game ,with Halfers on other wing. Hopefully Blade ( cover lock on bench) Costelow and Rob will also be available.


Posted By: turkishrebel
Date Posted: 31 March 2021 at 11:55am
lets hope so Mark, with those players back we would look a lot stronger

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Posted By: Owen111
Date Posted: 31 March 2021 at 11:57am
15 Halfpenny
14 Williams
13 Hughes
12 Williams
11 Mcnichol/Steff
10 Dinky
9 Cawdor
8 Sione
7 Jac Moragn
6 Shingler
5 Louisi 
4 Ball
3 Peter Sch
2 Ken Owens
1 Wyn 

I think it will be - Costelow on bench


Posted By: scarletnut
Date Posted: 31 March 2021 at 12:01pm
Originally posted by 157cb 157cb wrote:


  Tom Rogers should start for me, as I previously said.Liam at full back for his better counterattacking game ,with Halfers on other wing. Hopefully Blade ( cover lock on bench) Costelow and Rob will also be available.
Halfpenny would have to be full back because he doesn’t have the out and out gas to play wing. The counter attacking thing is a misnomer IMO both Sanjay and Pence are top end test players and should be good enough to interchange positionally throughout the game 

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