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Topic: Javan Sebastian
Posted By: scarletsbeno1
Subject: Javan Sebastian
Date Posted: 01 June 2021 at 12:42pm
Congrats to Javan called up by Scotland for their upcoming games. Qualifies through his father who was born in Edinburgh. Good job we’ve brought in Will Griff 

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Posted By: 157cb
Date Posted: 01 June 2021 at 12:50pm


   Congratulations to Jevan!!! Only worry is, we could lose three tight heads during next seasons international windows .


Posted By: EJPT
Date Posted: 01 June 2021 at 12:54pm
I hope he does well. Congratulations huge achievement!


Posted By: Mr Ian
Date Posted: 01 June 2021 at 1:02pm
Congratulations, strange news but good for him 


Posted By: ScarletBear
Date Posted: 01 June 2021 at 1:11pm
Did not see that coming.

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Posted By: SospanMawr
Date Posted: 01 June 2021 at 1:16pm
Originally posted by 157cb 157cb wrote:



   Congratulations to Jevan!!! Only worry is, we could lose three tight heads during next seasons international windows .
I don’t think Sebastian is good enough to beat out the likes of Simon Berghan, Zander Ferguson or WP Nel to be consistently involved in the Scottish squad yet.


Posted By: thommo
Date Posted: 01 June 2021 at 1:22pm
Good for him. Would make sense for him to be playing his trade North of thej Border.


Posted By: PE SA
Date Posted: 01 June 2021 at 1:37pm
congratulations and good luck to him. good exposure for him...

id echo the concern about it as well that we potentially can be without 3 tightheads during AI/6N... plus will he now become a NWQ player? or due to him being our product, does he bypass that somehow?

as for not being consistently in the squad ahead of the 3 mentioned Scottish tightheads, Nel is 35 now, with Javan coming up to 27...Not sure how younger scottish tightheads are progressing, but it looks like Sebastian might be being looked at as 3rd or 4th option for Scotland.




Posted By: Tony Clifton
Date Posted: 01 June 2021 at 2:18pm
Well I wish him the best, but I seriously hope he won’t end up like Blade, called away half the season. Should have considered keeping Scholtz too.


Posted By: Grammar School Boy
Date Posted: 01 June 2021 at 5:11pm
Much depends on whether Lee returns, and how effective he is, if and when he does. 

Not sure Will Griff will be in Wales' plans with Francis, Lewis and Brown ahead of him.


Posted By: scarletnut
Date Posted: 01 June 2021 at 5:20pm
Originally posted by Grammar School Boy Grammar School Boy wrote:

Much depends on whether Lee returns, and how effective he is, if and when he does. 

Not sure Will Griff will be in Wales' plans with Francis, Lewis and Brown ahead of him.
But one injury to those mentioned and he’ll get called up. 

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Posted By: ScarletBear
Date Posted: 01 June 2021 at 5:34pm
Originally posted by Tony Clifton Tony Clifton wrote:

Well I wish him the best, but I seriously hope he won’t end up like Blade, called away half the season. Should have considered keeping Scholtz too.

On the subject of Blade. He's not in the Scotland squad (as far as I could see). Some folk on here talked about a concussion prone Blade, forgoing his international duties to gain an extended contract with us. No idea if true, just a taking point.


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Posted By: Tony Clifton
Date Posted: 01 June 2021 at 5:50pm
Originally posted by ScarletBear ScarletBear wrote:

Originally posted by Tony Clifton Tony Clifton wrote:

Well I wish him the best, but I seriously hope he won’t end up like Blade, called away half the season. Should have considered keeping Scholtz too.

On the subject of Blade. He's not in the Scotland squad (as far as I could see). Some folk on here talked about a concussion prone Blade, forgoing his international duties to gain an extended contract with us. No idea if true, just a taking point.
He was listed as “injured” in the very last squad posting we had for the Cardiff match, not sure if he’s long term injured and affecting his call up?

TH depth isn’t great.
Lee is a ???
WGJ will very likely at least be involved in the squad and not play as it is for Elias
Javan now likely to be pulled away by Scotland
Jeffries it is?

We will miss Werner badly, such a reliable guy.


Posted By: reesytheexile
Date Posted: 01 June 2021 at 6:56pm
We need a Josh Turnbull version of a prop and second row and 8 we don’t get swept up my international call ups ! Werner was our nearest version . Losing Sebastian is a bit of disaster tbh 

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Posted By: Jones2004
Date Posted: 01 June 2021 at 7:10pm
As others have said congratulations to him, it’s well deserved. I however don’t see him being involved in the Scotland squad in the long term. He IMO is a solid club player but doesn’t seem an international quality player when full squads are chosen. I’d love to be proven wrong but at the moment I’m not worried from a Scarlets’ POV.


Posted By: reesytheexile
Date Posted: 01 June 2021 at 8:02pm
Originally posted by Jones2004 Jones2004 wrote:

As others have said congratulations to him, it’s well deserved. I however don’t see him being involved in the Scotland squad in the long term. He IMO is a solid club player but doesn’t seem an international quality player when full squads are chosen. I’d love to be proven wrong but at the moment I’m not worried from a Scarlets’ POV.
And being positive the exposure to new forwards coaches and players in camp will hopefully just make him a better player. Let’s hope so for everyone’s sake 

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Posted By: Tony Clifton
Date Posted: 01 June 2021 at 8:03pm
Originally posted by Jones2004 Jones2004 wrote:

As others have said congratulations to him, it’s well deserved. I however don’t see him being involved in the Scotland squad in the long term. He IMO is a solid club player but doesn’t seem an international quality player when full squads are chosen. I’d love to be proven wrong but at the moment I’m not worried from a Scarlets’ POV.
Scotland roll through call ups more than any other nation. Four years ago it was Luke Hamilton (yep, that one) and a bloke called Darryl Marfo, then onto the next. Scotland are unable to sustain a competitive international team with what they produce, and will be increasingly reliant on grandparents etc, especially with 3 years now 5 for any conversions.


Posted By: RR1972
Date Posted: 01 June 2021 at 10:16pm
Good luck to him. I don’t see him as a test player but he always gives 100 per cent so i’m delighted for him.


Posted By: Wil Chips
Date Posted: 02 June 2021 at 5:03am
Proud day for him and his family. Congratulations.


Posted By: aber-fan
Date Posted: 02 June 2021 at 5:02pm
Congratulations to Javan - and the experience can only improve him as a player. Realistically, he's not likely to be in the Scotland squad when all are available, but with so many injuries it's certainly not impossible. He's a very decent player.

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Posted By: John
Date Posted: 02 June 2021 at 6:02pm
Go for it Javan.... a great opportunity for him. One can't really say how good he is because he's still improving. But as Scotland tight heads are either ageing or intent on taking on disciplinary processes ( Mr Fagerson), he may well be capped fairly soon. 


Posted By: turkishrebel
Date Posted: 03 June 2021 at 10:30am
proud day for javan and i hope he really really does well for the scots. but it leave us with what could be a shortage of tight heads. if javan is regularly selected for scotland we may be a little thin on a position which is so physically tough

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