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Topic: Another RFC loss
Posted By: reesytheexile
Subject: Another RFC loss
Date Posted: 06 November 2021 at 12:38am
The RFC lost heavily 43-16 to Bridgend on Friday. Bottom of the league surely? Embarrassing. Considerable under investment by the Scarlets in the RFC for years is causing problems.Is there any point in the RFC ? 

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Posted By: RR1972
Date Posted: 06 November 2021 at 1:15am
Pasting against a struggling side. Sad days for the rfc


Posted By: ladram
Date Posted: 06 November 2021 at 4:53am
Is there any point in the league ?it's not doing what it is designed for ,it it a platform for people with big egos and even bigger wallets to have their day in the limelight.


Posted By: ScarletBear
Date Posted: 06 November 2021 at 5:46am
Super sad about this.

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Posted By: RR1972
Date Posted: 06 November 2021 at 9:09am
Originally posted by ladram ladram wrote:

Is there any point in the league ?it's not doing what it is designed for ,it it a platform for people with big egos and even bigger wallets to have their day in the limelight.
tnh not sure bridgend fall into that category they been struggling to


Posted By: ladram
Date Posted: 06 November 2021 at 9:39am
Originally posted by RR1972 RR1972 wrote:

Originally posted by ladram ladram wrote:

Is there any point in the league ?it's not doing what it is designed for ,it it a platform for people with big egos and even bigger wallets to have their day in the limelight.
tnh not sure bridgend fall into that category they been struggling to
i was thinking more along the lines of your merthyrs.


Posted By: RR1972
Date Posted: 06 November 2021 at 9:46am
That’s fair not sure why the fringe scarkets are not released to the rfc no a game this week


Posted By: ladram
Date Posted: 06 November 2021 at 10:21am
Originally posted by RR1972 RR1972 wrote:

That’s fair not sure why the fringe scarkets are not released to the rfc no a game this week
i've said this before but i think it would suit the scarlets for the rfc to go down as they would not have to use the facilities at the parc and they would still have the quins and drovers (who they favour with players) to feed them with players,as has been said very sad as if it wasn't for the history and heritage of the rfc the scarlets would not have been able to use that as a trump card for stand alone status.


Posted By: RR1972
Date Posted: 06 November 2021 at 11:24am
Be a sad day if they get relegated but i think it’s ring fenced this year


Posted By: TurkQuay
Date Posted: 06 November 2021 at 11:38am
Originally posted by reesytheexile reesytheexile wrote:

The RFC lost heavily 43-16 to Bridgend on Friday. Bottom of the league surely? Embarrassing. Considerable under investment by the Scarlets in the RFC for years is causing problems.Is there any point in the RFC ? 

How much do the Scarlets invest in the RFC ?. 

Do they invest any money in Llandovery and Carmarthen ?.


Posted By: hoppy
Date Posted: 06 November 2021 at 11:48am
Yes Another sad night for RFC last night Scarlets should be supplying them with players last night

I agree that league is not good enough when you have teams like Merthyr and Cardiff rumoured to be top spenders in the league no chance for the rest although Cardiff lost to newport last night

Llandovery v Quins this afternoon should be good game

Sorry state of the game in wales 






Posted By: TurkQuay
Date Posted: 06 November 2021 at 12:08pm
Originally posted by ladram ladram wrote:

Originally posted by RR1972 RR1972 wrote:

That’s fair not sure why the fringe scarkets are not released to the rfc no a game this week
i've said this before but i think it would suit the scarlets for the rfc to go down as they would not have to use the facilities at the parc and they would still have the quins and drovers (who they favour with players) to feed them with players,as has been said very sad as if it wasn't for the history and heritage of the rfc the scarlets would not have been able to use that as a trump card for stand alone status.

Surely Llanelli RFC (formed in 1872) became the Scarlets in 2003 (same players, same coaches, in the same competitions, etc.), and retained the history and heritage. The club currently called Llanelli RFC is a semi-pro club which was formed in 2003 with totally new players, new coaches, new competition, etc., and only has a history of 18 years.


Posted By: RR1972
Date Posted: 06 November 2021 at 12:17pm
Originally posted by TurkQuay TurkQuay wrote:

Originally posted by ladram ladram wrote:

Originally posted by RR1972 RR1972 wrote:

That’s fair not sure why the fringe scarkets are not released to the rfc no a game this week
i've said this before but i think it would suit the scarlets for the rfc to go down as they would not have to use the facilities at the parc and they would still have the quins and drovers (who they favour with players) to feed them with players,as has been said very sad as if it wasn't for the history and heritage of the rfc the scarlets would not have been able to use that as a trump card for stand alone status.

Surely Llanelli RFC (formed in 1872) became the Scarlets in 2003 (same players, same coaches, in the same competitions, etc.), and retained the history and heritage. The club currently called Llanelli RFC is a semi-pro club which was formed in 2003 with totally new players, new coaches, new competition, etc., and only has a history of 18 years.
in theory its vice versa tbh


Posted By: reesytheexile
Date Posted: 06 November 2021 at 12:20pm
Originally posted by TurkQuay TurkQuay wrote:

Originally posted by reesytheexile reesytheexile wrote:

The RFC lost heavily 43-16 to Bridgend on Friday. Bottom of the league surely? Embarrassing. Considerable under investment by the Scarlets in the RFC for years is causing problems.Is there any point in the RFC ? 

How much do the Scarlets invest in the RFC ?. 

Do they invest any money in Llandovery and Carmarthen ?.
The Scarlets actually owns the Rfc ( unlike any other Welsh region) so it makes the RFC unique. Not particularly liked ( to various degrees) , by the other Premiership clubs because of this. The Scarlets seems to want the RFC to succeed but fails to fund the older hard nosed semi pros needed to create success. The RFC is often defeated up front and in the loose by other clubs and of course they lose a lot. They also don’t have many fans as who wants to pay to watch losing rugby week in and week out. That then leads to lack of bar/ gate income and lack of sponsorship income. It’s pretty obvious really! 

On the other hand the Scarlets want to use the RFC to control and develop players ( although this seems to have lessened) which is great BUT if they are continuing to underinvest in eg 3-4 forwards/ ball carriers/stealers the plan falls apart. 

The region is also very sensitive to keeping the Drovers and Quins happy when frankly they are long established businesses in Towns with club houses and open for daily business. The RFC is based in a Stadium just for the few hours of the game. The RFC should get better Scarlets allocation but don’t and won’t! 

So overall it’s a glass half full or half empty scenario depending on your views and just unsatisfactory. The future is with the Scarlets and I feel sorry for the loyal players who want success but don’t have the fire power to succeed. I would think that young Scarlets talent would thrive more if they had a competitive platform to win and this would accelerate their development, as opposed to being battered and hammered most weeks 


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Posted By: Wil Chips
Date Posted: 06 November 2021 at 1:17pm
Neither Llandovery or Quins have Scarlets players this weekend.

The difference is they spend a 6 figure sum a year on a core of non Scarlet affiliated players, and RFC don’t.

Money doesn’t guarantee success, but it does avoid abject failure/relegation of course.


Posted By: RR1972
Date Posted: 06 November 2021 at 1:48pm
Originally posted by Wil Chips Wil Chips wrote:

Neither Llandovery or Quins have Scarlets players this weekend.

The difference is they spend a 6 figure sum a year on a core of non Scarlet affiliated players, and RFC don’t.

Money doesn’t guarantee success, but it does avoid abject failure/relegation of course.
and they have age groups to feed players into the first team. Llamdovery well off club with that caravan site. Having a losing rfc teAm is not good for them or the region imo.  I go a few times a year it’s always a good day with a knowledgable crowd and you often get to see and talk to ex stars of yesteryear.  The whole thing is more personal than regional rugby


Posted By: ladram
Date Posted: 06 November 2021 at 2:29pm
Originally posted by RR1972 RR1972 wrote:

Originally posted by Wil Chips Wil Chips wrote:

Neither Llandovery or Quins have Scarlets players this weekend.

The difference is they spend a 6 figure sum a year on a core of non Scarlet affiliated players, and RFC don’t.

Money doesn’t guarantee success, but it does avoid abject failure/relegation of course.
and they have age groups to feed players into the first team. Llamdovery well off club with that caravan site. Having a losing rfc teAm is not good for them or the region imo.  I go a few times a year it’s always a good day with a knowledgable crowd and you often get to see and talk to ex stars of yesteryear.  The whole thing is more personal than regional rugby
had a load of up the liners to llandovery over the years as i live by station in tirydail,great town and great day out although with the last train back being after 8 pm it gets messy.LOL


Posted By: reesytheexile
Date Posted: 06 November 2021 at 5:13pm




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Posted By: Eastern outpost
Date Posted: 06 November 2021 at 6:02pm
Originally posted by reesytheexile reesytheexile wrote:



I agree

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Posted By: Eastern outpost
Date Posted: 06 November 2021 at 6:05pm
Originally posted by ladram ladram wrote:

Originally posted by RR1972 RR1972 wrote:

Originally posted by Wil Chips Wil Chips wrote:

Neither Llandovery or Quins have Scarlets players this weekend.

The difference is they spend a 6 figure sum a year on a core of non Scarlet affiliated players, and RFC don’t.

Money doesn’t guarantee success, but it does avoid abject failure/relegation of course.
and they have age groups to feed players into the first team. Llamdovery well off club with that caravan site. Having a losing rfc teAm is not good for them or the region imo.  I go a few times a year it’s always a good day with a knowledgable crowd and you often get to see and talk to ex stars of yesteryear.  The whole thing is more personal than regional rugby
had a load of up the liners to llandovery over the years as i live by station in tirydail,great town and great day out although with the last train back being after 8 pm it gets messy.LOL
I looked Tirydail station up on Google maps. 

That’s getting my defence in first.

There was no answer for Carms or Pembs, hence the question that follows.

Was this pre or post Beeching? WinkEmbarrassed


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Posted By: ladram
Date Posted: 06 November 2021 at 6:25pm
Originally posted by Eastern outpost Eastern outpost wrote:

Originally posted by ladram ladram wrote:

Originally posted by RR1972 RR1972 wrote:

Originally posted by Wil Chips Wil Chips wrote:

Neither Llandovery or Quins have Scarlets players this weekend.

The difference is they spend a 6 figure sum a year on a core of non Scarlet affiliated players, and RFC don’t.

Money doesn’t guarantee success, but it does avoid abject failure/relegation of course.
and they have age groups to feed players into the first team. Llamdovery well off club with that caravan site. Having a losing rfc teAm is not good for them or the region imo.  I go a few times a year it’s always a good day with a knowledgable crowd and you often get to see and talk to ex stars of yesteryear.  The whole thing is more personal than regional rugby
had a load of up the liners to llandovery over the years as i live by station in tirydail,great town and great day out although with the last train back being after 8 pm it gets messy.LOL
I looked Tirydail station up on Google maps. 

That’s getting my defence in first.

There was no answer for Carms or Pembs, hence the question that follows.

Was this pre or post Beeching? WinkEmbarrassed
it's ammanford station but it is in tirydail,gods little acre.Big smile


Posted By: Eastern outpost
Date Posted: 06 November 2021 at 6:30pm
Originally posted by ladram ladram wrote:

Originally posted by Eastern outpost Eastern outpost wrote:

Originally posted by ladram ladram wrote:

Originally posted by RR1972 RR1972 wrote:

Originally posted by Wil Chips Wil Chips wrote:

Neither Llandovery or Quins have Scarlets players this weekend.

The difference is they spend a 6 figure sum a year on a core of non Scarlet affiliated players, and RFC don’t.

Money doesn’t guarantee success, but it does avoid abject failure/relegation of course.
and they have age groups to feed players into the first team. Llamdovery well off club with that caravan site. Having a losing rfc teAm is not good for them or the region imo.  I go a few times a year it’s always a good day with a knowledgable crowd and you often get to see and talk to ex stars of yesteryear.  The whole thing is more personal than regional rugby
had a load of up the liners to llandovery over the years as i live by station in tirydail,great town and great day out although with the last train back being after 8 pm it gets messy.LOL
I looked Tirydail station up on Google maps. 

That’s getting my defence in first.

There was no answer for Carms or Pembs, hence the question that follows.

Was this pre or post Beeching? WinkEmbarrassed
it's ammanford station but it is in tirydail,gods little acre.Big smile
A lightning strike free zone, no less?

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In a world where you can be anything – Be Kind.


Posted By: TurkQuay
Date Posted: 07 November 2021 at 2:38pm
Originally posted by RR1972 RR1972 wrote:

Originally posted by TurkQuay TurkQuay wrote:

Originally posted by ladram ladram wrote:

Originally posted by RR1972 RR1972 wrote:

That’s fair not sure why the fringe scarkets are not released to the rfc no a game this week
i've said this before but i think it would suit the scarlets for the rfc to go down as they would not have to use the facilities at the parc and they would still have the quins and drovers (who they favour with players) to feed them with players,as has been said very sad as if it wasn't for the history and heritage of the rfc the scarlets would not have been able to use that as a trump card for stand alone status.

Surely Llanelli RFC (formed in 1872) became the Scarlets in 2003 (same players, same coaches, in the same competitions, etc.), and retained the history and heritage. The club currently called Llanelli RFC is a semi-pro club which was formed in 2003 with totally new players, new coaches, new competition, etc., and only has a history of 18 years.
in theory its vice versa tbh

How is it the opposite of what I said ?.


Posted By: TurkQuay
Date Posted: 07 November 2021 at 2:41pm
Originally posted by reesytheexile reesytheexile wrote:

Originally posted by TurkQuay TurkQuay wrote:

Originally posted by reesytheexile reesytheexile wrote:

The RFC lost heavily 43-16 to Bridgend on Friday. Bottom of the league surely? Embarrassing. Considerable under investment by the Scarlets in the RFC for years is causing problems.Is there any point in the RFC ? 

How much do the Scarlets invest in the RFC ?. 

Do they invest any money in Llandovery and Carmarthen ?.
The Scarlets actually owns the Rfc ( unlike any other Welsh region) so it makes the RFC unique. Not particularly liked ( to various degrees) , by the other Premiership clubs because of this. The Scarlets seems to want the RFC to succeed but fails to fund the older hard nosed semi pros needed to create success. The RFC is often defeated up front and in the loose by other clubs and of course they lose a lot. They also don’t have many fans as who wants to pay to watch losing rugby week in and week out. That then leads to lack of bar/ gate income and lack of sponsorship income. It’s pretty obvious really! 

On the other hand the Scarlets want to use the RFC to control and develop players ( although this seems to have lessened) which is great BUT if they are continuing to underinvest in eg 3-4 forwards/ ball carriers/stealers the plan falls apart. 

The region is also very sensitive to keeping the Drovers and Quins happy when frankly they are long established businesses in Towns with club houses and open for daily business. The RFC is based in a Stadium just for the few hours of the game. The RFC should get better Scarlets allocation but don’t and won’t! 

So overall it’s a glass half full or half empty scenario depending on your views and just unsatisfactory. The future is with the Scarlets and I feel sorry for the loyal players who want success but don’t have the fire power to succeed. I would think that young Scarlets talent would thrive more if they had a competitive platform to win and this would accelerate their development, as opposed to being battered and hammered most weeks 

Thanks. You haven't said how much the Scarlets invest in Llanelli (or the other two) so I assume you don't know, but thanks for the response. 


Posted By: RR1972
Date Posted: 07 November 2021 at 3:41pm
Originally posted by TurkQuay TurkQuay wrote:

Originally posted by RR1972 RR1972 wrote:

Originally posted by TurkQuay TurkQuay wrote:

Originally posted by ladram ladram wrote:

Originally posted by RR1972 RR1972 wrote:

That’s fair not sure why the fringe scarkets are not released to the rfc no a game this week
i've said this before but i think it would suit the scarlets for the rfc to go down as they would not have to use the facilities at the parc and they would still have the quins and drovers (who they favour with players) to feed them with players,as has been said very sad as if it wasn't for the history and heritage of the rfc the scarlets would not have been able to use that as a trump card for stand alone status.

Surely Llanelli RFC (formed in 1872) became the Scarlets in 2003 (same players, same coaches, in the same competitions, etc.), and retained the history and heritage. The club currently called Llanelli RFC is a semi-pro club which was formed in 2003 with totally new players, new coaches, new competition, etc., and only has a history of 18 years.
in theory its vice versa tbh

How is it the opposite of what I said ?.
because the region are the new entity founded in 2003 and the rfc are a continuation of llanelli , that’s the theory anyhow


Posted By: TurkQuay
Date Posted: 08 November 2021 at 11:35am
Originally posted by RR1972 RR1972 wrote:

Originally posted by TurkQuay TurkQuay wrote:

Originally posted by RR1972 RR1972 wrote:

Originally posted by TurkQuay TurkQuay wrote:

Originally posted by ladram ladram wrote:

Originally posted by RR1972 RR1972 wrote:

That’s fair not sure why the fringe scarkets are not released to the rfc no a game this week
i've said this before but i think it would suit the scarlets for the rfc to go down as they would not have to use the facilities at the parc and they would still have the quins and drovers (who they favour with players) to feed them with players,as has been said very sad as if it wasn't for the history and heritage of the rfc the scarlets would not have been able to use that as a trump card for stand alone status.

Surely Llanelli RFC (formed in 1872) became the Scarlets in 2003 (same players, same coaches, in the same competitions, etc.), and retained the history and heritage. The club currently called Llanelli RFC is a semi-pro club which was formed in 2003 with totally new players, new coaches, new competition, etc., and only has a history of 18 years.
in theory its vice versa tbh

How is it the opposite of what I said ?.
because the region are the new entity founded in 2003 and the rfc are a continuation of llanelli , that’s the theory anyhow
Whose theory ?.


Posted By: RR1972
Date Posted: 08 November 2021 at 12:02pm
Originally posted by TurkQuay TurkQuay wrote:

Originally posted by RR1972 RR1972 wrote:

Originally posted by TurkQuay TurkQuay wrote:

Originally posted by RR1972 RR1972 wrote:

Originally posted by TurkQuay TurkQuay wrote:

Originally posted by ladram ladram wrote:

Originally posted by RR1972 RR1972 wrote:

That’s fair not sure why the fringe scarkets are not released to the rfc no a game this week
i've said this before but i think it would suit the scarlets for the rfc to go down as they would not have to use the facilities at the parc and they would still have the quins and drovers (who they favour with players) to feed them with players,as has been said very sad as if it wasn't for the history and heritage of the rfc the scarlets would not have been able to use that as a trump card for stand alone status.

Surely Llanelli RFC (formed in 1872) became the Scarlets in 2003 (same players, same coaches, in the same competitions, etc.), and retained the history and heritage. The club currently called Llanelli RFC is a semi-pro club which was formed in 2003 with totally new players, new coaches, new competition, etc., and only has a history of 18 years.
in theory its vice versa tbh

How is it the opposite of what I said ?.
because the region are the new entity founded in 2003 and the rfc are a continuation of llanelli , that’s the theory anyhow
Whose theory ?.
you clearly don’t want this to be the case
But llamelli rfc is a continuation of the old rfc  not a new start up, sorry if that upsets you but it’s the truth


Posted By: Dai Guevara
Date Posted: 08 November 2021 at 12:16pm
Graham Price, in today's Western Mail commenting on Wales' scrum problems,lamenting the lack of coaching emphasis on this aspect of the game,and how different it was under Ray Prosser in the days of the Pontypool front row. They were prepared for any eventuality (cheating?) and knew exactly where their feet, body angles should be to counter the opposition. Also, how important the contribution of the back five forwards was to them. He does say that front-row forwards develop late and that it would benefit many to do a longer apprenticeship in the Premiership. It would certainly benefit LLanelli rfc if this was taken seriously, with, an experienced prop or two to help ease the development props into the game. In the most recent Llanelli game that I witnessed, away to Aberavon, we were thrashed when experienced (and not very athletic) Aberavon props continuously and embarrassingly destroyed our scrum. We are probably trying to develop a modern, mobile front row to excel in the loose, but what use is that if the rules of the game mean that they can be mangled in the set pieces and continually pushed backward with penalties?


Posted By: minded
Date Posted: 08 November 2021 at 12:17pm
Originally posted by RR1972 RR1972 wrote:

Originally posted by TurkQuay TurkQuay wrote:

Originally posted by RR1972 RR1972 wrote:

Originally posted by TurkQuay TurkQuay wrote:

Originally posted by RR1972 RR1972 wrote:

Originally posted by TurkQuay TurkQuay wrote:

Originally posted by ladram ladram wrote:

Originally posted by RR1972 RR1972 wrote:

That’s fair not sure why the fringe scarkets are not released to the rfc no a game this week
i've said this before but i think it would suit the scarlets for the rfc to go down as they would not have to use the facilities at the parc and they would still have the quins and drovers (who they favour with players) to feed them with players,as has been said very sad as if it wasn't for the history and heritage of the rfc the scarlets would not have been able to use that as a trump card for stand alone status.

Surely Llanelli RFC (formed in 1872) became the Scarlets in 2003 (same players, same coaches, in the same competitions, etc.), and retained the history and heritage. The club currently called Llanelli RFC is a semi-pro club which was formed in 2003 with totally new players, new coaches, new competition, etc., and only has a history of 18 years.
in theory its vice versa tbh

How is it the opposite of what I said ?.
because the region are the new entity founded in 2003 and the rfc are a continuation of llanelli , that’s the theory anyhow
Whose theory ?.
you clearly don’t want this to be the case
But llamelli rfc is a continuation of the old rfc  not a new start up, sorry if that upsets you but it’s the truth
Scarlets Regional Limited was incorporated in 1997 is where the accounts have been posted every year since. Llanelli RFC Limited was incorporated in 2003.



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Posted By: reesytheexile
Date Posted: 08 November 2021 at 12:18pm
Originally posted by Dai Guevara Dai Guevara wrote:

Graham Price, in today's Western Mail commenting on Wales' scrum problems,lamenting the lack of coaching emphasis on this aspect of the game,and how different it was under Ray Prosser in the days of the Pontypool front row. They were prepared for any eventuality (cheating?) and knew exactly where their feet, body angles should be to counter the opposition. Also, how important the contribution of the back five forwards was to them. He does say that front-row forwards develop late and that it would benefit many to do a longer apprenticeship in the Premiership. It would certainly benefit LLanelli rfc if this was taken seriously, with, an experienced prop or two to help ease the development props into the game. In the most recent Llanelli game that I witnessed, away to Aberavon, we were thrashed when experienced (and not very athletic) Aberavon props continuously and embarrassingly destroyed our scrum. We are probably trying to develop a modern, mobile front row to excel in the loose, but what use is that if the rules of the game mean that they can be mangled in the set pieces and continually pushed backward with penalties?
Precisely 👍

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Posted By: RR1972
Date Posted: 08 November 2021 at 12:26pm
So one is llanelli rfc and one is the scarlets. The rfc is basically the old club and the region a new set up. But in reality we all know the region is just the old club under a diff name and the rfc is just the seni pro arm of the club


Posted By: RR1972
Date Posted: 08 November 2021 at 12:35pm
Originally posted by Dai Guevara Dai Guevara wrote:

Graham Price, in today's Western Mail commenting on Wales' scrum problems,lamenting the lack of coaching emphasis on this aspect of the game,and how different it was under Ray Prosser in the days of the Pontypool front row. They were prepared for any eventuality (cheating?) and knew exactly where their feet, body angles should be to counter the opposition. Also, how important the contribution of the back five forwards was to them. He does say that front-row forwards develop late and that it would benefit many to do a longer apprenticeship in the Premiership. It would certainly benefit LLanelli rfc if this was taken seriously, with, an experienced prop or two to help ease the development props into the game. In the most recent Llanelli game that I witnessed, away to Aberavon, we were thrashed when experienced (and not very athletic) Aberavon props continuously and embarrassingly destroyed our scrum. We are probably trying to develop a modern, mobile front row to excel in the loose, but what use is that if the rules of the game mean that they can be mangled in the set pieces and continually pushed backward with penalties?
worked for wyn jones


Posted By: Realwest
Date Posted: 08 November 2021 at 5:43pm
With all respect to Graham Price yes he was World class in his day but that was a long time ago.

I’d listen more to any prop playing a decent standard with these new rules. The game has considerably moved on.


Posted By: RR1972
Date Posted: 08 November 2021 at 6:16pm
Originally posted by Realwest Realwest wrote:

With all respect to Graham Price yes he was World class in his day but that was a long time ago.

I’d listen more to any prop playing a decent standard with these new rules. The game has considerably moved on.
scrummaging against older mire more exoerienced props can only be a good thing for young props price raises a valid point


Posted By: Dai Guevara
Date Posted: 08 November 2021 at 8:47pm
In today's game a top class prop must do his work about the field AND be able to more than hold his own in the set pieces. This is where the game has moved on compared to the days when props were just expected to scrummage in the mud and lift the occasional second row in the line-out.
They could consider themselves unlucky if they had to take a pass 10 yards out and carry towards the line. The Premiership still has these dinosaurs but they are very good at their specialist subject - putting young wannabe props in their place - up in the air or faces in the mud. What Llanelli need is one or two experienced props to hold and tire them out so that the young guns can then come on and we can play our sort of open game without being being penalised to relegation.


Posted By: TurkQuay
Date Posted: 09 November 2021 at 2:06pm
Originally posted by RR1972 RR1972 wrote:

Originally posted by TurkQuay TurkQuay wrote:

Originally posted by RR1972 RR1972 wrote:

Originally posted by TurkQuay TurkQuay wrote:

Originally posted by RR1972 RR1972 wrote:

Originally posted by TurkQuay TurkQuay wrote:

Originally posted by ladram ladram wrote:

Originally posted by RR1972 RR1972 wrote:

That’s fair not sure why the fringe scarkets are not released to the rfc no a game this week
i've said this before but i think it would suit the scarlets for the rfc to go down as they would not have to use the facilities at the parc and they would still have the quins and drovers (who they favour with players) to feed them with players,as has been said very sad as if it wasn't for the history and heritage of the rfc the scarlets would not have been able to use that as a trump card for stand alone status.

Surely Llanelli RFC (formed in 1872) became the Scarlets in 2003 (same players, same coaches, in the same competitions, etc.), and retained the history and heritage. The club currently called Llanelli RFC is a semi-pro club which was formed in 2003 with totally new players, new coaches, new competition, etc., and only has a history of 18 years.
in theory its vice versa tbh

How is it the opposite of what I said ?.
because the region are the new entity founded in 2003 and the rfc are a continuation of llanelli , that’s the theory anyhow
Whose theory ?.
you clearly don’t want this to be the case
But llamelli rfc is a continuation of the old rfc  not a new start up, sorry if that upsets you but it’s the truth
Uh ?. What are you on about. I don't "want" it to be the case, it's just my opinion of the situation, and it doesn't upset me.  You have the opposite opinion, but just saying "it's the truth" doesn't make it so. I just didn't understand how somebody thought the Club of Huw Evans and Stuart Gallacher and Gareth Jenkins and Simon Easterby and many other internationals and full time professional rugby players playing in the Celtic League and Heineken Cup, is the same Club of Chris Rowe* and part time semi-pro teachers, plumbers and electricians training 2 evenings a week playing in a newly formed Welsh National semi-pro league, and finishing bottom of that league. 

* I couldn't find who the coaches were for the Llanelli semi-pro team for the 2003/04 season.


Posted By: TurkQuay
Date Posted: 09 November 2021 at 2:09pm
Originally posted by minded minded wrote:

Scarlets Regional Limited was incorporated in 1997 is where the accounts have been posted every year since. Llanelli RFC Limited was incorporated in 2003.


 
Many thanks for the info..


Posted By: TurkQuay
Date Posted: 09 November 2021 at 2:11pm
Originally posted by RR1972 RR1972 wrote:

So one is llanelli rfc and one is the scarlets. The rfc is basically the old club and the region a new set up. But in reality we all know the region is just the old club under a diff name and the rfc is just the seni pro arm of the club

Thumbs Up


Posted By: RR1972
Date Posted: 09 November 2021 at 2:35pm
Originally posted by TurkQuay TurkQuay wrote:

Originally posted by RR1972 RR1972 wrote:

Originally posted by TurkQuay TurkQuay wrote:

Originally posted by RR1972 RR1972 wrote:

Originally posted by TurkQuay TurkQuay wrote:

Originally posted by RR1972 RR1972 wrote:

Originally posted by TurkQuay TurkQuay wrote:

Originally posted by ladram ladram wrote:

Originally posted by RR1972 RR1972 wrote:

That’s fair not sure why the fringe scarkets are not released to the rfc no a game this week
i've said this before but i think it would suit the scarlets for the rfc to go down as they would not have to use the facilities at the parc and they would still have the quins and drovers (who they favour with players) to feed them with players,as has been said very sad as if it wasn't for the history and heritage of the rfc the scarlets would not have been able to use that as a trump card for stand alone status.

Surely Llanelli RFC (formed in 1872) became the Scarlets in 2003 (same players, same coaches, in the same competitions, etc.), and retained the history and heritage. The club currently called Llanelli RFC is a semi-pro club which was formed in 2003 with totally new players, new coaches, new competition, etc., and only has a history of 18 years.
in theory its vice versa tbh

How is it the opposite of what I said ?.
because the region are the new entity founded in 2003 and the rfc are a continuation of llanelli , that’s the theory anyhow
Whose theory ?.
you clearly don’t want this to be the case
But llamelli rfc is a continuation of the old rfc  not a new start up, sorry if that upsets you but it’s the truth
Uh ?. What are you on about. I don't "want" it to be the case, it's just my opinion of the situation, and it doesn't upset me.  You have the opposite opinion, but just saying "it's the truth" doesn't make it so. I just didn't understand how somebody thought the Club of Huw Evans and Stuart Gallacher and Gareth Jenkins and Simon Easterby and many other internationals and full time professional rugby players playing in the Celtic League and Heineken Cup, is the same Club of Chris Rowe* and part time semi-pro teachers, plumbers and electricians training 2 evenings a week playing in a newly formed Welsh National semi-pro league, and finishing bottom of that league. 

* I couldn't find who the coaches were for the Llanelli semi-pro team for the 2003/04 season.
as i said in theory the scarlets were a region created in 2003 when the game went regional, the rfc are still the rfc but they play in the welsh prem . They weren’t a new venture set up in 2003 unlike the regions, the reality is different and it’s all splitting hairs. I don’t we did finish bottom back then we had the likes pf shingler dan evans and others in the team. We made cup finals and were one of the stromger semi pro sides , we seemed to have better ties with the region back then. I don’t know why this seems to have changed in recent seasons tbh and i dont know why some regional fans seem to have a downer on the rfc and talk about them with such disdain


Posted By: scarletnut
Date Posted: 09 November 2021 at 2:37pm
Originally posted by TurkQuay TurkQuay wrote:

Originally posted by RR1972 RR1972 wrote:

Originally posted by TurkQuay TurkQuay wrote:

Originally posted by RR1972 RR1972 wrote:

Originally posted by TurkQuay TurkQuay wrote:

Originally posted by RR1972 RR1972 wrote:

Originally posted by TurkQuay TurkQuay wrote:

Originally posted by ladram ladram wrote:

Originally posted by RR1972 RR1972 wrote:

That’s fair not sure why the fringe scarkets are not released to the rfc no a game this week
i've said this before but i think it would suit the scarlets for the rfc to go down as they would not have to use the facilities at the parc and they would still have the quins and drovers (who they favour with players) to feed them with players,as has been said very sad as if it wasn't for the history and heritage of the rfc the scarlets would not have been able to use that as a trump card for stand alone status.

Surely Llanelli RFC (formed in 1872) became the Scarlets in 2003 (same players, same coaches, in the same competitions, etc.), and retained the history and heritage. The club currently called Llanelli RFC is a semi-pro club which was formed in 2003 with totally new players, new coaches, new competition, etc., and only has a history of 18 years.
in theory its vice versa tbh

How is it the opposite of what I said ?.
because the region are the new entity founded in 2003 and the rfc are a continuation of llanelli , that’s the theory anyhow
Whose theory ?.
you clearly don’t want this to be the case
But llamelli rfc is a continuation of the old rfc  not a new start up, sorry if that upsets you but it’s the truth
Uh ?. What are you on about. I don't "want" it to be the case, it's just my opinion of the situation, and it doesn't upset me.  You have the opposite opinion, but just saying "it's the truth" doesn't make it so. I just didn't understand how somebody thought the Club of Huw Evans and Stuart Gallacher and Gareth Jenkins and Simon Easterby and many other internationals and full time professional rugby players playing in the Celtic League and Heineken Cup, is the same Club of Chris Rowe* and part time semi-pro teachers, plumbers and electricians training 2 evenings a week playing in a newly formed Welsh National semi-pro league, and finishing bottom of that league. 

* I couldn't find who the coaches were for the Llanelli semi-pro team for the 2003/04 season.
No the Scarlets are a continuation of the old Llanelli club side which beat the All Blacks and reached European semi-finals etc not the side that plays in the Welsh Premiership. That is a fact. 

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Posted By: RR1972
Date Posted: 09 November 2021 at 2:39pm
Originally posted by scarletnut scarletnut wrote:

Originally posted by TurkQuay TurkQuay wrote:

Originally posted by RR1972 RR1972 wrote:

Originally posted by TurkQuay TurkQuay wrote:

Originally posted by RR1972 RR1972 wrote:

Originally posted by TurkQuay TurkQuay wrote:

Originally posted by RR1972 RR1972 wrote:

Originally posted by TurkQuay TurkQuay wrote:

Originally posted by ladram ladram wrote:

Originally posted by RR1972 RR1972 wrote:

That’s fair not sure why the fringe scarkets are not released to the rfc no a game this week
i've said this before but i think it would suit the scarlets for the rfc to go down as they would not have to use the facilities at the parc and they would still have the quins and drovers (who they favour with players) to feed them with players,as has been said very sad as if it wasn't for the history and heritage of the rfc the scarlets would not have been able to use that as a trump card for stand alone status.

Surely Llanelli RFC (formed in 1872) became the Scarlets in 2003 (same players, same coaches, in the same competitions, etc.), and retained the history and heritage. The club currently called Llanelli RFC is a semi-pro club which was formed in 2003 with totally new players, new coaches, new competition, etc., and only has a history of 18 years.
in theory its vice versa tbh

How is it the opposite of what I said ?.
because the region are the new entity founded in 2003 and the rfc are a continuation of llanelli , that’s the theory anyhow
Whose theory ?.
you clearly don’t want this to be the case
But llamelli rfc is a continuation of the old rfc  not a new start up, sorry if that upsets you but it’s the truth
Uh ?. What are you on about. I don't "want" it to be the case, it's just my opinion of the situation, and it doesn't upset me.  You have the opposite opinion, but just saying "it's the truth" doesn't make it so. I just didn't understand how somebody thought the Club of Huw Evans and Stuart Gallacher and Gareth Jenkins and Simon Easterby and many other internationals and full time professional rugby players playing in the Celtic League and Heineken Cup, is the same Club of Chris Rowe* and part time semi-pro teachers, plumbers and electricians training 2 evenings a week playing in a newly formed Welsh National semi-pro league, and finishing bottom of that league. 

* I couldn't find who the coaches were for the Llanelli semi-pro team for the 2003/04 season.
No the Scarlets are a continuation of the old Llanelli club side which beat the All Blacks and reached European semi-finals etc not the side that plays in the Welsh Premiership. That is a fact. 
why aren’t they called llanelli rfc then?  In theory we became a region in 2003 and the rfc reamined as it was but as a semi pro side , not sure why people get so annoyed and so defensive over that, it’s all semantics. We all know how it works in reality


Posted By: scarletnut
Date Posted: 09 November 2021 at 2:41pm
Originally posted by RR1972 RR1972 wrote:

Originally posted by Dai Guevara Dai Guevara wrote:

Graham Price, in today's Western Mail commenting on Wales' scrum problems,lamenting the lack of coaching emphasis on this aspect of the game,and how different it was under Ray Prosser in the days of the Pontypool front row. They were prepared for any eventuality (cheating?) and knew exactly where their feet, body angles should be to counter the opposition. Also, how important the contribution of the back five forwards was to them. He does say that front-row forwards develop late and that it would benefit many to do a longer apprenticeship in the Premiership. It would certainly benefit LLanelli rfc if this was taken seriously, with, an experienced prop or two to help ease the development props into the game. In the most recent Llanelli game that I witnessed, away to Aberavon, we were thrashed when experienced (and not very athletic) Aberavon props continuously and embarrassingly destroyed our scrum. We are probably trying to develop a modern, mobile front row to excel in the loose, but what use is that if the rules of the game mean that they can be mangled in the set pieces and continually pushed backward with penalties?
worked for wyn jones

That's a bit of a misnomer though. Wyn didn't go straight from playing for Llandovery into the Wales squad did he. It took a lot of hard work from the Scarlets behind the scenes to get him up to professional standard. 

I watch a lot of Welsh Premiership and it's not really up to standard if it's purpose is to develop professional players. The gap needs to be bridged with A sides playing regularly.


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Posted By: RR1972
Date Posted: 09 November 2021 at 2:45pm
Originally posted by scarletnut scarletnut wrote:

Originally posted by RR1972 RR1972 wrote:

Originally posted by Dai Guevara Dai Guevara wrote:

Graham Price, in today's Western Mail commenting on Wales' scrum problems,lamenting the lack of coaching emphasis on this aspect of the game,and how different it was under Ray Prosser in the days of the Pontypool front row. They were prepared for any eventuality (cheating?) and knew exactly where their feet, body angles should be to counter the opposition. Also, how important the contribution of the back five forwards was to them. He does say that front-row forwards develop late and that it would benefit many to do a longer apprenticeship in the Premiership. It would certainly benefit LLanelli rfc if this was taken seriously, with, an experienced prop or two to help ease the development props into the game. In the most recent Llanelli game that I witnessed, away to Aberavon, we were thrashed when experienced (and not very athletic) Aberavon props continuously and embarrassingly destroyed our scrum. We are probably trying to develop a modern, mobile front row to excel in the loose, but what use is that if the rules of the game mean that they can be mangled in the set pieces and continually pushed backward with penalties?
worked for wyn jones

That's a bit of a misnomer though. Wyn didn't go straight from playing for Llandovery into the Wales squad did he. It took a lot of hard work from the Scarlets behind the scenes to get him up to professional standard. 

I watch a lot of Welsh Premiership and it's not really up to standard if it's purpose is to develop professional players. The gap needs to be bridged with A sides playing regularly.
in fairness  he was hardly going to walk into test rugby from the welsh prem was he? yeah we saw how well that a competiton worked a while back the rugby was dreadful and no one bothered to watch it. If more regional players played in the prem it would improve instead of being sat in the stands of a weekend. Untill you get a proper anglo welsh league set up then an a leauge won’t work. If that is set up then i agree go forward with that model untill then get the boys playing!


Posted By: Mugwuffin
Date Posted: 11 November 2021 at 8:20pm
Originally posted by TurkQuay TurkQuay wrote:

Originally posted by ladram ladram wrote:

Originally posted by RR1972 RR1972 wrote:

That’s fair not sure why the fringe scarkets are not released to the rfc no a game this week
i've said this before but i think it would suit the scarlets for the rfc to go down as they would not have to use the facilities at the parc and they would still have the quins and drovers (who they favour with players) to feed them with players,as has been said very sad as if it wasn't for the history and heritage of the rfc the scarlets would not have been able to use that as a trump card for stand alone status.

Surely Llanelli RFC (formed in 1872) became the Scarlets in 2003 (same players, same coaches, in the same competitions, etc.), and retained the history and heritage. The club currently called Llanelli RFC is a semi-pro club which was formed in 2003 with totally new players, new coaches, new competition, etc., and only has a history of 18 years.
Yep. The current RFC team was basically a continuation of the pre-2003 “U21” side - The inverted commas are because everyone was allowed to select 5 players older than 21. We should’ve rebranded it as Llanelli Athletic or Llanelli United from the start to clear up the confusion.


Posted By: reesytheexile
Date Posted: 12 November 2021 at 10:19am
Originally posted by Mugwuffin Mugwuffin wrote:

Originally posted by TurkQuay TurkQuay wrote:

Originally posted by ladram ladram wrote:

Originally posted by RR1972 RR1972 wrote:

That’s fair not sure why the fringe scarkets are not released to the rfc no a game this week
i've said this before but i think it would suit the scarlets for the rfc to go down as they would not have to use the facilities at the parc and they would still have the quins and drovers (who they favour with players) to feed them with players,as has been said very sad as if it wasn't for the history and heritage of the rfc the scarlets would not have been able to use that as a trump card for stand alone status.

Surely Llanelli RFC (formed in 1872) became the Scarlets in 2003 (same players, same coaches, in the same competitions, etc.), and retained the history and heritage. The club currently called Llanelli RFC is a semi-pro club which was formed in 2003 with totally new players, new coaches, new competition, etc., and only has a history of 18 years.
Yep. The current RFC team was basically a continuation of the pre-2003 “U21” side - The inverted commas are because everyone was allowed to select 5 players older than 21. We should’ve rebranded it as Llanelli Athletic or Llanelli United from the start to clear up the confusion.

I think the point is more that the RFC is owned by the Scarlets and plays in the Premiership. Also what is the point of the club for the owners  if it lacks investment certainty up front and that the team gets badly defeated on a regular basis? Seems so unfair on the young players and fans. Played 7 and lost 7 this season. Come on Scarlets - where is the pride in your club .


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Posted By: RR1972
Date Posted: 12 November 2021 at 10:22am
Originally posted by Mugwuffin Mugwuffin wrote:

Originally posted by TurkQuay TurkQuay wrote:

Originally posted by ladram ladram wrote:

Originally posted by RR1972 RR1972 wrote:

That’s fair not sure why the fringe scarkets are not released to the rfc no a game this week
i've said this before but i think it would suit the scarlets for the rfc to go down as they would not have to use the facilities at the parc and they would still have the quins and drovers (who they favour with players) to feed them with players,as has been said very sad as if it wasn't for the history and heritage of the rfc the scarlets would not have been able to use that as a trump card for stand alone status.

Surely Llanelli RFC (formed in 1872) became the Scarlets in 2003 (same players, same coaches, in the same competitions, etc.), and retained the history and heritage. The club currently called Llanelli RFC is a semi-pro club which was formed in 2003 with totally new players, new coaches, new competition, etc., and only has a history of 18 years.
Yep. The current RFC team was basically a continuation of the pre-2003 “U21” side - The inverted commas are because everyone was allowed to select 5 players older than 21. We should’ve rebranded it as Llanelli Athletic or Llanelli United from the start to clear up the confusion.
was the over 21 rule actually put in place? It certainly isn’t now


Posted By: RR1972
Date Posted: 12 November 2021 at 10:24am
Originally posted by reesytheexile reesytheexile wrote:

Originally posted by Mugwuffin Mugwuffin wrote:

Originally posted by TurkQuay TurkQuay wrote:

Originally posted by ladram ladram wrote:

Originally posted by RR1972 RR1972 wrote:

That’s fair not sure why the fringe scarkets are not released to the rfc no a game this week
i've said this before but i think it would suit the scarlets for the rfc to go down as they would not have to use the facilities at the parc and they would still have the quins and drovers (who they favour with players) to feed them with players,as has been said very sad as if it wasn't for the history and heritage of the rfc the scarlets would not have been able to use that as a trump card for stand alone status.

Surely Llanelli RFC (formed in 1872) became the Scarlets in 2003 (same players, same coaches, in the same competitions, etc.), and retained the history and heritage. The club currently called Llanelli RFC is a semi-pro club which was formed in 2003 with totally new players, new coaches, new competition, etc., and only has a history of 18 years.
Yep. The current RFC team was basically a continuation of the pre-2003 “U21” side - The inverted commas are because everyone was allowed to select 5 players older than 21. We should’ve rebranded it as Llanelli Athletic or Llanelli United from the start to clear up the confusion.

I think the point is more that the RFC is owned by the Scarlets and plays in the Premiership. Also what is the point of the club for the owners  if it lacks investment certainty up front and that the team gets badly defeated on a regular basis? Seems so unfair on the young players and fans. Played 7 and lost 7 this season. Come on Scarlets - where is the pride in your club .
spot on ive seen the rfc twice this year good young backs but just can’t get any ball. 


Posted By: TurkQuay
Date Posted: 12 November 2021 at 3:58pm
Originally posted by RR1972 RR1972 wrote:

Originally posted by TurkQuay TurkQuay wrote:

Originally posted by RR1972 RR1972 wrote:

Originally posted by TurkQuay TurkQuay wrote:

Originally posted by RR1972 RR1972 wrote:

Originally posted by TurkQuay TurkQuay wrote:

Originally posted by RR1972 RR1972 wrote:

Originally posted by TurkQuay TurkQuay wrote:

Originally posted by ladram ladram wrote:

Originally posted by RR1972 RR1972 wrote:

That’s fair not sure why the fringe scarkets are not released to the rfc no a game this week
i've said this before but i think it would suit the scarlets for the rfc to go down as they would not have to use the facilities at the parc and they would still have the quins and drovers (who they favour with players) to feed them with players,as has been said very sad as if it wasn't for the history and heritage of the rfc the scarlets would not have been able to use that as a trump card for stand alone status.

Surely Llanelli RFC (formed in 1872) became the Scarlets in 2003 (same players, same coaches, in the same competitions, etc.), and retained the history and heritage. The club currently called Llanelli RFC is a semi-pro club which was formed in 2003 with totally new players, new coaches, new competition, etc., and only has a history of 18 years.
in theory its vice versa tbh
How is it the opposite of what I said ?.
because the region are the new entity founded in 2003 and the rfc are a continuation of llanelli , that’s the theory anyhow
Whose theory ?.
you clearly don’t want this to be the case
But llamelli rfc is a continuation of the old rfc  not a new start up, sorry if that upsets you but it’s the truth
Uh ?. What are you on about. I don't "want" it to be the case, it's just my opinion of the situation, and it doesn't upset me.  You have the opposite opinion, but just saying "it's the truth" doesn't make it so. I just didn't understand how somebody thought the Club of Huw Evans and Stuart Gallacher and Gareth Jenkins and Simon Easterby and many other internationals and full time professional rugby players playing in the Celtic League and Heineken Cup, is the same Club of Chris Rowe* and part time semi-pro teachers, plumbers and electricians training 2 evenings a week playing in a newly formed Welsh National semi-pro league, and finishing bottom of that league. 

* I couldn't find who the coaches were for the Llanelli semi-pro team for the 2003/04 season.
as i said in theory the scarlets were a region created in 2003 when the game went regional, the rfc are still the rfc but they play in the welsh prem . They weren’t a new venture set up in 2003 unlike the regions, the reality is different and it’s all splitting hairs. I don’t we did finish bottom back then we had the likes pf shingler dan evans and others in the team. We made cup finals and were one of the stromger semi pro sides , we seemed to have better ties with the region back then. I don’t know why this seems to have changed in recent seasons tbh and i dont know why some regional fans seem to have a downer on the rfc and talk about them with such disdain

The RFC are not still the RFC. They are a new venture. You’ve been told that Llanelli RFC Ltd were set up in 2003. And I don’t understand how you can say they are the same and then say the reality is different. You’re contradicting yourself. And we’re not splitting hairs, we’ve got totally opposite opinions. And, as I said before, I do not understand how somebody can think that a Club of Huw Evans, Stuart Gallacher, Gareth Jenkins, and Simon Easterby and many other internationals and full time professional rugby players playing in the Celtic League and Heineken Cup, is the same as a Club with a new President, a new Chairman, a new Coach (Kevin Williams), a new captain (Chris Rowe) and part time semi-pro teachers, plumbers and electricians etc training 2 evenings a week playing in a newly formed Welsh semi-pro league and konica cup.

I read that we were bottom from a BBC article on Newport winning the League that year   “The relegation issue remains muddled, as there is still some doubt whether any club will be demoted as the Premiership could be expanded. Llanelli are bottom with 26 points, two points behind Pontypool who lost at home to Newbridge”.   Aaron Shingker didn’t play for Llanelli until 2008 (Steve Shingler didn’t play until 2009), and Dan Evans didn’t play until 2006. I haven’t got a downer on the RFC and I don’t have any disdain for them. I wish them every success and all the very best and I think it’s very sad that we’ve lost every premiership game this season. I wish that we would use them more to give squad players game time and to develop youngsters, but it seems that the last three coaches don’t think the premiership is of a high enough standard.



Posted By: reesytheexile
Date Posted: 13 November 2021 at 4:45pm
Llanelli v Llandovery today 

LOST 12-54 !!! AT HOME!

Lost 8 in a trot now- it’s very sad and due to lack of funding by the Scarlets as owners especially up front. No relegation this year so the region can ignore them 🤨 It’s all very odd and sad though having a club and leaving it rot.


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Posted By: reesytheexile
Date Posted: 13 November 2021 at 5:28pm
Originally posted by reesytheexile reesytheexile wrote:

Llanelli v Llandovery today 

LOST 12-54 !!! AT HOME!

Lost 8 in a trot now- it’s very sad and due to lack of funding by the Scarlets as owners especially up front. No relegation this year so the region can ignore them 🤨 It’s all very odd and sad though having a club and leaving it rot.


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"I'd rather have been a judge than a miner.Being a miner,as soon as you are too old and tired and sick and stupid to do the job properly,you have to go.The very opposite applies with judges!"P.Cook


Posted By: hoppy
Date Posted: 13 November 2021 at 5:45pm
Yes very sad that RFC are not being helped out  by scarlets 



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