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Topic: Scarlet v Dragons postponed
Posted By: SA14
Subject: Scarlet v Dragons postponed
Date Posted: 05 January 2022 at 4:07pm

The game was due to take place on Saturday, January 8 in Llanelli, however, a number of positive Covid-19 cases within the Dragons playing squad have been reported by the region. The URC Medical Advisory Group has liaised with the region and having considered all the facts have deemed that the fixture cannot go ahead as scheduled.





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Posted By: tannerbankboy
Date Posted: 05 January 2022 at 4:12pm
It's a shame in a way, it would be nice to build some momentum but good in that we'll have a crowd hopefully for the rearranged game.  It may not be huge for the Dragons but will make some money.


Posted By: reesytheexile
Date Posted: 05 January 2022 at 4:12pm
Scarlets get the short straw again! ☹️

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Posted By: supertaf
Date Posted: 05 January 2022 at 4:15pm
Originally posted by reesytheexile reesytheexile wrote:

Scarlets get the short straw again! ☹️
We have more than McDonalds now....


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Posted By: Seagultaf
Date Posted: 05 January 2022 at 4:25pm
Hopefully it can be rearranged for a date when Drakeford will allow spectators to attend.


Posted By: SA14
Date Posted: 05 January 2022 at 4:27pm
Originally posted by reesytheexile reesytheexile wrote:

Scarlets get the short straw again! ☹️

How have we got the short straw?


Posted By: Wasp
Date Posted: 05 January 2022 at 4:27pm
Originally posted by Seagultaf Seagultaf wrote:

Hopefully it can be rearranged for a date when Drakeford will allow spectators to attend.
Yep. Silver linings


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Posted By: 157cb
Date Posted: 05 January 2022 at 4:44pm

  I wonder how many have tested positive? For Covid.

  Dragons have 50 senior players listed in there senior squad. 


Posted By: supertaf
Date Posted: 05 January 2022 at 4:58pm
Originally posted by SA14 SA14 wrote:

Originally posted by reesytheexile reesytheexile wrote:

Scarlets get the short straw again! ☹️

How have we got the short straw?
Every cancellation is out of our control? SA games, Bristol, Bordeaux, Dragons - none were caused by us.


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Posted By: diego6754
Date Posted: 05 January 2022 at 5:06pm
Scrap the league now for this season. Its going to get worse, fixture pile up is going to be unmanagable. Go back to round robin derbies in each country. Top team from each country go in to playoffs, winner gets a cheese and wine evening round at Boris' or a porridge and prayer evening at Drakefords. 


Posted By: Fscarlet
Date Posted: 05 January 2022 at 5:19pm
So that’s 5 fixtures we have to reschedule?

1 in Europe & 4 league matches. 


Posted By: hartson11
Date Posted: 05 January 2022 at 5:28pm
Originally posted by Seagultaf Seagultaf wrote:

Hopefully it can be rearranged for a date when Drakeford will allow spectators to attend.

I admire your optimism 😉


Posted By: Wil Chips
Date Posted: 05 January 2022 at 5:46pm
Originally posted by 157cb 157cb wrote:



  I wonder how many have tested positive? For Covid.

  Dragons have 50 senior players listed in there senior squad. 


Front rowers seem to be the issue.


Posted By: SA14
Date Posted: 05 January 2022 at 6:10pm
Originally posted by supertaf supertaf wrote:

Originally posted by SA14 SA14 wrote:

Originally posted by reesytheexile reesytheexile wrote:

Scarlets get the short straw again! ☹️

How have we got the short straw?
Every cancellation is out of our control? SA games, Bristol, Bordeaux, Dragons - none were caused by us.

Ah right. Anyone thinking it’s a conspiracy against us is a bit loopy. 


Posted By: Seagultaf
Date Posted: 05 January 2022 at 6:44pm
Nothing released from the team about any Scarlets players who have tested positive, with the number of cases in the area, surely there must be some?


Posted By: Endeavour
Date Posted: 05 January 2022 at 6:50pm
A disappointment as it was a chance to build some momentum. Understandable in the circumstances but it's a challenge 

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Posted By: Owen111
Date Posted: 05 January 2022 at 7:40pm
Won’t be many players testing positive when team Wales come knocking



Posted By: Wil Chips
Date Posted: 05 January 2022 at 7:43pm
Originally posted by Owen111 Owen111 wrote:

Won’t be many players testing positive when team Wales come knocking



Are they immunized when in a Welsh shirt or are you suggesting they bribe labs to fake a COVID test result ?


Posted By: Busy
Date Posted: 05 January 2022 at 7:58pm
[QUOTE=Owen111]Won’t be many players testing positive when team Wales come knocking

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They won't be drinking cola that week LOL


Posted By: RR1972
Date Posted: 05 January 2022 at 10:09pm
When we gonna play all these games?


Posted By: EJPT
Date Posted: 05 January 2022 at 11:25pm
Originally posted by RR1972 RR1972 wrote:

When we gonna play all these games?
2023


Posted By: Rubrum
Date Posted: 06 January 2022 at 9:36am
Would not want to go to a Boris do.
You never know what you might catch.  Dead

And it's doubtful he could arrange anything anyway given his inability to be the PM.  Embarrassed

And if you attended, it would be classed as a 'working party' so he may even ask you to become next Minister of whatever........  just for a day.

As for the Dragons.  How come they are catching the virus if they are in a 'bubble' ?  Confused



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Posted By: EJPT
Date Posted: 06 January 2022 at 9:42am
Originally posted by Rubrum Rubrum wrote:

Would not want to go to a Boris do.
You never know what you might catch.  Dead

And it's doubtful he could arrange anything anyway given his inability to be the PM.  Embarrassed

And if you attended, it would be classed as a 'working party' so he may even ask you to become next Minister of whatever........  just for a day.

As for the Dragons.  How come they are catching the virus if they are in a 'bubble' ?  Confused

I dislike Boris but need to be looking at the Welsh rules here, they’ve done more than in England but it hasn’t really had a substantial effect on reducing infections. Catching the virus seems to be inevitable at the current rate, without full blown lock the whole country down. Hope the players affected can return quickly. 


Posted By: Fscarlet
Date Posted: 06 January 2022 at 9:43am
Originally posted by Rubrum Rubrum wrote:

Would not want to go to a Boris do.
You never know what you might catch.  Dead

And it's doubtful he could arrange anything anyway given his inability to be the PM.  Embarrassed

And if you attended, it would be classed as a 'working party' so he may even ask you to become next Minister of whatever........  just for a day.

As for the Dragons.  How come they are catching the virus if they are in a 'bubble' ?  Confused


I am not sure they are in a bubble per say. They still go home to their partners/families, so it is logical given COVID is rife at the moment that a family member could pass it on to them & they in turn pass it to their teammates. 


Posted By: greypower1
Date Posted: 06 January 2022 at 9:45am
I don't think any teams are any longer in bubbles.
You can catch Omicron by simply waking past someone in the street who is infectious.




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Posted By: supertaf
Date Posted: 06 January 2022 at 10:04am
Originally posted by greypower1 greypower1 wrote:

I don't think any teams are any longer in bubbles.
You can catch Omicron by simply waking past someone in the street who is infectious.


Dont tell the panic merchants that for heavens sake, they are convinced we are doomed as it is.....


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Posted By: SA14
Date Posted: 06 January 2022 at 10:24am
Originally posted by RR1972 RR1972 wrote:

When we gonna play all these games?

Summer rugby anyone?


Posted By: Legendinmybathroom
Date Posted: 06 January 2022 at 7:36pm
My wife’s been told by someone from Newport that COVID-19 was rife this week and they expect it to double on the next week as many residents (and those from Cardiff and valleys too) chose to take advantage of the less restrictions in England on New Year’s Eve.
I think the wider issue is that although you may be in a training bubble, like I work in a bubble in the NHS, you then go home to family and loved ones at the end of your shift and risk being infected by them. Plus if you live or work in urban areas then the simple mathematics of it suggests your more likely to come into contact with someone who is positive and probably contract the virus yourself.


Posted By: Busy
Date Posted: 06 January 2022 at 9:33pm
So next game is on 16/1? Unless I'm wrong and things have changed. Won't be long. 


Posted By: Fscarlet
Date Posted: 06 January 2022 at 9:44pm
Originally posted by Busy Busy wrote:

So next game is on 16/1? Unless I'm wrong and things have changed. Won't be long. 

Next game is in Europe, against Bordeaux. 


Posted By: Busy
Date Posted: 06 January 2022 at 9:52pm
Originally posted by Fscarlet Fscarlet wrote:

[QUOTE=Busy]So next game is on 16/1? Unless I'm wrong and things have changed. Won't be long. 

Next game is in Europe, against Bordeaux. 
[/QUOTE
So I was right. On 16th of Jan. That won't get cancelled. 
 


Posted By: scarletpimp
Date Posted: 07 January 2022 at 1:13am
Originally posted by EJPT EJPT wrote:

Originally posted by Rubrum Rubrum wrote:

Would not want to go to a Boris do.
You never know what you might catch.  Dead

And it's doubtful he could arrange anything anyway given his inability to be the PM.  Embarrassed

And if you attended, it would be classed as a 'working party' so he may even ask you to become next Minister of whatever........  just for a day.

As for the Dragons.  How come they are catching the virus if they are in a 'bubble' ?  Confused

I dislike Boris but need to be looking at the Welsh rules here, they’ve done more than in England but it hasn’t really had a substantial effect on reducing infections. Catching the virus seems to be inevitable at the current rate, without full blown lock the whole country down. Hope the players affected can return quickly. 

Just like to ask EJPT, what its like in Berkshire, with regard to compliance?
Down here in Llanelli, it seems that many young men seem to be a law to themselves, and attempt to enter shops without a mask. A few days ago I had a barney with a guy entering a CHEMIST, without mask ! Could have been exempt ,of course , but as he was smoking outside beforehand , I hardly think so !!!As a result its hardly surprising Covid is still with us. No we don't need another lockdown if everyone was sensible, and as a result, we will never see any rugby at this rate.
As for that CRETIN Johnson, the least said the better !


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Posted By: Wil Chips
Date Posted: 07 January 2022 at 5:13am
Originally posted by Busy Busy wrote:

Originally posted by Fscarlet Fscarlet wrote:

[QUOTE=Busy]So next game is on 16/1? Unless I'm wrong and things have changed. Won't be long. 


Next game is in Europe, against Bordeaux. 
[/QUOTE
So I was right. On 16th of Jan. That won't get cancelled. 
 


Great to hear. Thanks.


Posted By: Fscarlet
Date Posted: 07 January 2022 at 8:02am
Originally posted by Wil Chips Wil Chips wrote:

Originally posted by Busy Busy wrote:

Originally posted by Fscarlet Fscarlet wrote:

[QUOTE=Busy]So next game is on 16/1? Unless I'm wrong and things have changed. Won't be long. 


Next game is in Europe, against Bordeaux. 
[/QUOTE
So I was right. On 16th of Jan. That won't get cancelled. 
 


Great to hear. Thanks.

As it stands I don't think the French authorities will allow us to travel to play will they? Even if they do, I think I am right in saying that players must be fully vaccinated & we know some of our squad aren't.


Posted By: Wil Chips
Date Posted: 07 January 2022 at 8:10am
Originally posted by Fscarlet Fscarlet wrote:

Originally posted by Wil Chips Wil Chips wrote:

Originally posted by Busy Busy wrote:

Originally posted by Fscarlet Fscarlet wrote:

[QUOTE=Busy]So next game is on 16/1? Unless I'm wrong and things have changed. Won't be long. 


Next game is in Europe, against Bordeaux. 
[/QUOTE
So I was right. On 16th of Jan. That won't get cancelled. 
 


Great to hear. Thanks.


As it stands I don't think the French authorities will allow us to travel to play will they? Even if they do, I think I am right in saying that players must be fully vaccinated & we know some of our squad aren't.


Busy says the game is on. So it’s on.


Posted By: GPR - Rochester
Date Posted: 07 January 2022 at 8:16am
Originally posted by Fscarlet Fscarlet wrote:

Originally posted by Wil Chips Wil Chips wrote:

Originally posted by Busy Busy wrote:

Originally posted by Fscarlet Fscarlet wrote:

[QUOTE=Busy]So next game is on 16/1? Unless I'm wrong and things have changed. Won't be long. 


Next game is in Europe, against Bordeaux. 
[/QUOTE
So I was right. On 16th of Jan. That won't get cancelled. 
 


Great to hear. Thanks.

As it stands I don't think the French authorities will allow us to travel to play will they? Even if they do, I think I am right in saying that players must be fully vaccinated & we know some of our squad aren't.

The non vaccinated should not represent an issue but the stance of the French authorities towards what they see as non European nations could be different. If we get another cancellation of fixtures involving French & Uk teams then they may as well cancel the tournament. 

My thoughts are with those of you who have booked and are looking forward to an away trip.


Posted By: EJPT
Date Posted: 07 January 2022 at 9:19am
Originally posted by scarletpimp scarletpimp wrote:

Originally posted by EJPT EJPT wrote:

Originally posted by Rubrum Rubrum wrote:

Would not want to go to a Boris do.
You never know what you might catch.  Dead

And it's doubtful he could arrange anything anyway given his inability to be the PM.  Embarrassed

And if you attended, it would be classed as a 'working party' so he may even ask you to become next Minister of whatever........  just for a day.

As for the Dragons.  How come they are catching the virus if they are in a 'bubble' ?  Confused

I dislike Boris but need to be looking at the Welsh rules here, they’ve done more than in England but it hasn’t really had a substantial effect on reducing infections. Catching the virus seems to be inevitable at the current rate, without full blown lock the whole country down. Hope the players affected can return quickly. 

Just like to ask EJPT, what its like in Berkshire, with regard to compliance?
Down here in Llanelli, it seems that many young men seem to be a law to themselves, and attempt to enter shops without a mask. A few days ago I had a barney with a guy entering a CHEMIST, without mask ! Could have been exempt ,of course , but as he was smoking outside beforehand , I hardly think so !!!As a result its hardly surprising Covid is still with us. No we don't need another lockdown if everyone was sensible, and as a result, we will never see any rugby at this rate.
As for that CRETIN Johnson, the least said the better !
Much the same I’m afraid. Most people wear masks but some that don’t. I think any restrictions introduced people will largely ignore now because of what has gone on in downing street so (thats sadly probably the case for Wales too). 


Posted By: Wil Chips
Date Posted: 07 January 2022 at 1:03pm
The Ospreys will have played 9 league games compared to our 5 after this weekend.

Far from ideal that.


Posted By: GPR - Rochester
Date Posted: 07 January 2022 at 1:33pm
Originally posted by Wil Chips Wil Chips wrote:

The Ospreys will have played 9 league games compared to our 5 after this weekend.

Far from ideal that.

9 to 6 I make it but I take your point. Don't know where we are going to fit in all these postponed games.


Posted By: diego6754
Date Posted: 07 January 2022 at 1:42pm
Originally posted by GPR - Rochester GPR - Rochester wrote:

Originally posted by Wil Chips Wil Chips wrote:

The Ospreys will have played 9 league games compared to our 5 after this weekend.

Far from ideal that.

9 to 6 I make it but I take your point. Don't know where we are going to fit in all these postponed games.

I don't get how we cancelled against Bristol as essentially we couldn't field a team (through no fault of our own), for whatever reason and they were awarded a defacto 28-0 win. We have now had what 5 teams cancel, again, essentially not being able to field teams yet we are expected to rearrange the matches. Doesn't seem fair.


Posted By: Fscarlet
Date Posted: 07 January 2022 at 2:15pm
Originally posted by diego6754 diego6754 wrote:

Originally posted by GPR - Rochester GPR - Rochester wrote:

Originally posted by Wil Chips Wil Chips wrote:

The Ospreys will have played 9 league games compared to our 5 after this weekend.

Far from ideal that.

9 to 6 I make it but I take your point. Don't know where we are going to fit in all these postponed games.

I don't get how we cancelled against Bristol as essentially we couldn't field a team (through no fault of our own), for whatever reason and they were awarded a defacto 28-0 win. We have now had what 5 teams cancel, again, essentially not being able to field teams yet we are expected to rearrange the matches. Doesn't seem fair.

Simon M did say the Scarlets were in talks with the organisers about that...


Posted By: ap sior
Date Posted: 07 January 2022 at 2:24pm
Originally posted by Wil Chips Wil Chips wrote:

The Ospreys will have played 9 league games compared to our 5 after this weekend.

Far from ideal that.

But we won the game that mattered to us, Big smileBig smileBig smile and they lost the one that mattered to them CryCryCry


Posted By: Fscarlet
Date Posted: 07 January 2022 at 3:04pm
Round 3 & 4 of the European champions cup is to go ahead as planned.


Posted By: greypower1
Date Posted: 07 January 2022 at 3:46pm
Originally posted by Fscarlet Fscarlet wrote:

Round 3 & 4 of the European champions cup is to go ahead as planned.

Looks like we'll have to play behind closed doors for Bristol at home.
Another loss maker for the region, unless we offer to play it a Bristol and rearrange to play them at y Parc at a later date when we can get a good crowd in.


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Posted By: Fscarlet
Date Posted: 07 January 2022 at 3:52pm
Originally posted by greypower1 greypower1 wrote:

Originally posted by Fscarlet Fscarlet wrote:

Round 3 & 4 of the European champions cup is to go ahead as planned.

Looks like we'll have to play behind closed doors for Bristol at home.
Another loss maker for the region, unless we offer to play it a Bristol and rearrange to play them at y Parc at a later date when we can get a good crowd in.

I don't think that is a bad idea at all. See if we can agree a profit split with them & both clubs are winners.


Posted By: KID A
Date Posted: 07 January 2022 at 4:11pm
Originally posted by greypower1 greypower1 wrote:

Originally posted by Fscarlet Fscarlet wrote:

Round 3 & 4 of the European champions cup is to go ahead as planned.


Looks like we'll have to play behind closed doors for Bristol at home.
Another loss maker for the region, unless we offer to play it a Bristol and rearrange to play them at y Parc at a later date when we can get a good crowd in.


We can't just organise it between ourselves. We have to play whatever match EPCR tells us to, which is Scarlets v Bristol.

It's a dire situation, which will be even worse if there are no crowds for the 6 Nations.


Posted By: Eastern outpost
Date Posted: 07 January 2022 at 5:54pm
Re Bordeaux away and all other matches involving French teams, yesterday iirc, the government has said that they will be widening the valid reasons for cross border travel, particularly work related.

They’ve not said by when those relaxations will be announced.

Fingers crossed.


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Posted By: Wasp
Date Posted: 07 January 2022 at 8:24pm
Originally posted by Eastern outpost Eastern outpost wrote:

Re Bordeaux away and all other matches involving French teams, yesterday iirc, the government has said that they will be widening the valid reasons for cross border travel, particularly work related.

They’ve not said by when those relaxations will be announced.

Fingers crossed.
It's been confirmed by EPCR that the exemptions are in place Steve. Although there was some caveat about waiting to hear about the exact terms and conditions.


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Posted By: Wasp
Date Posted: 07 January 2022 at 8:25pm
Originally posted by Fscarlet Fscarlet wrote:

Originally posted by greypower1 greypower1 wrote:

Originally posted by Fscarlet Fscarlet wrote:

Round 3 & 4 of the European champions cup is to go ahead as planned.

Looks like we'll have to play behind closed doors for Bristol at home.
Another loss maker for the region, unless we offer to play it a Bristol and rearrange to play them at y Parc at a later date when we can get a good crowd in.

I don't think that is a bad idea at all. See if we can agree a profit split with them & both clubs are winners.
Yeah I'm sure Bristol feel like doing us a favour after we pulled out last time lol.

We'll play at home and we'll win.


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Posted By: Eastern outpost
Date Posted: 07 January 2022 at 8:56pm
Originally posted by Wasp Wasp wrote:

Originally posted by Eastern outpost Eastern outpost wrote:

Re Bordeaux away and all other matches involving French teams, yesterday iirc, the government has said that they will be widening the valid reasons for cross border travel, particularly work related.

They’ve not said by when those relaxations will be announced.

Fingers crossed.
It's been confirmed by EPCR that the exemptions are in place Steve. Although there was some caveat about waiting to hear about the exact terms and conditions.
Thanks for that. We’ve been driving all day so haven’t seen the latest.

Glad there’s much less chance of a blank couple of weekends.


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Posted By: 157cb
Date Posted: 07 January 2022 at 9:04pm

  5k capacity for Bordeaux v Scarlets.


Posted By: Wasp
Date Posted: 07 January 2022 at 10:27pm
Originally posted by Eastern outpost Eastern outpost wrote:

Originally posted by Wasp Wasp wrote:

Originally posted by Eastern outpost Eastern outpost wrote:

Re Bordeaux away and all other matches involving French teams, yesterday iirc, the government has said that they will be widening the valid reasons for cross border travel, particularly work related.

They’ve not said by when those relaxations will be announced.

Fingers crossed.
It's been confirmed by EPCR that the exemptions are in place Steve. Although there was some caveat about waiting to hear about the exact terms and conditions.
Thanks for that. We’ve been driving all day so haven’t seen the latest.

Glad there’s much less chance of a blank couple of weekends.
As long as we can keep covid out of the squads!!


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Posted By: Wil Chips
Date Posted: 08 January 2022 at 2:14pm
We have 15 ( 16 if an ongoing appeal on the Bristol game is upheld) to play without any knock out games.

So from next week that’s a game a week until the end of April.

I can’t see any ‘dead’ weekends through the 6N, so who gets called up for the 6N squads is influencing, particularly as we need to expect no one will get released during the campaign back to the regions due to isolation protocols.

It would be great to get guys back yonform and fitness for the games during the 6N ( Baldwin, Rawlins, Cubby, Mcloed, Rob Evs, etc). I think we can be v competitive if the injury gods are kind.


Posted By: Wasp
Date Posted: 08 January 2022 at 5:15pm
Originally posted by Wil Chips Wil Chips wrote:

We have 15 ( 16 if an ongoing appeal on the Bristol game is upheld) to play without any knock out games.

So from next week that’s a game a week until the end of April.

I can’t see any ‘dead’ weekends through the 6N, so who gets called up for the 6N squads is influencing, particularly as we need to expect no one will get released during the campaign back to the regions due to isolation protocols.

It would be great to get guys back yonform and fitness for the games during the 6N ( Baldwin, Rawlins, Cubby, Mcloed, Rob Evs, etc). I think we can be v competitive if the injury gods are kind.

Didn't realise there was an ongoing appeal. Ta.


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Posted By: Mr Lee91
Date Posted: 08 January 2022 at 7:28pm
The SA mini tour has been rearranged during the 6N, as if playing on another continent wasn’t hard enough we now get to do it without internationals.

If there is an appeal re:Bristol I can’t see us winning it as all other cancellations/postponements were because of active COVID infections.

There’s 3 free weekends during the 6N that could be used otherwise we’d be waiting on Euro knockouts to use those weekends if possible.

I’m just dumbfounded that we’re still in the position of having to cancel/rearrange games Cry


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