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Topic: English cricket
Posted By: GPR - Rochester
Subject: English cricket
Date Posted: 05 July 2022 at 1:14pm
Oh the power of positive thinking. A team which had won 1 from 17 under Joe Root's captaincy & coached by Silverwood have just won 4 from 4 under the new guidance of Ben Stokes & Brendan Macallum. They have successfully chased 4 totals in excess of 250 for victory making today's chase of 378 look like a stroll in the local park. Batting from Root & Bairstow approaching 5 an over is something we have never seen in test cricket before. Long may it continue.



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Posted By: RR1972
Date Posted: 05 July 2022 at 1:23pm
Incredible run chasing they would have got 500, bairstow a modern day bradman at mo incrediboe. Still need a spinner mind


Posted By: Owen111
Date Posted: 05 July 2022 at 2:38pm
They we're both class and have been for a while, enjoyment to watch 


Posted By: dyniol53
Date Posted: 05 July 2022 at 11:11pm
Yeah cannot be overstated how incredible the last 4 games have been.

I was at Lords for day 2 when New Zealand got back into it and thought ‘oh dear’ same old. That win was remarkable but the next 3 wins have been even more incredible. 

I think this one against India is the most incredible of the lot. The ease with which Bairstow and Root just knocked up a partnership of 250 on the 4th/5th day against a very good bowling attack is quite astonishing.

Bazball indeed 


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Posted By: Sir Duckling Tuft
Date Posted: 06 July 2022 at 3:18am
Easily the highlight of the british sporting summer, This is a special english team with 4 or 5 all time greats

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Posted By: RR1972
Date Posted: 06 July 2022 at 7:16am
Anderson  broad root well in the mix for an englabd all time team stokes possibly bairstow on fire, however before we go ott let’s see how they do overseas under this ciach/skipper. Still huge issues in top 3 and lack of quality in spin bowling for me


Posted By: Sir Duckling Tuft
Date Posted: 06 July 2022 at 12:54pm
The boks are in town next , theyre 3rd england 4th in the test rankings , that will tell us a lot...

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Posted By: reesytheexile
Date Posted: 06 July 2022 at 5:46pm
Shame the Welsh element of The ENGLAND and Wales Cricket Board is so abysmal and has been for many years. It’s truly like following England! 


Posted By: RR1972
Date Posted: 06 July 2022 at 6:35pm
Not many welsh players lately, not even many in glamorgan. Binned the colts and welsh cricket has faded badly


Posted By: reesytheexile
Date Posted: 06 July 2022 at 10:16pm
Originally posted by RR1972 RR1972 wrote:

Not many welsh players lately, not even many in glamorgan. Binned the colts and welsh cricket has faded badly

Sad.  I would rather they just dropped Wales in the Board rather than see us humiliated as being an irrelevance as a nation. 


Posted By: RR1972
Date Posted: 07 July 2022 at 7:27am
Originally posted by reesytheexile reesytheexile wrote:

Originally posted by RR1972 RR1972 wrote:

Not many welsh players lately, not even many in glamorgan. Binned the colts and welsh cricket has faded badly

Sad.  I would rather they just dropped Wales in the Board rather than see us humiliated as being an irrelevance as a nation. 
it’s prob to help justify givimg us the odd test or odi game tbh


Posted By: GPR - Rochester
Date Posted: 07 July 2022 at 7:43am
Originally posted by RR1972 RR1972 wrote:

Anderson  broad root well in the mix for an englabd all time team stokes possibly bairstow on fire, however before we go ott let’s see how they do overseas under this ciach/skipper. Still huge issues in top 3 and lack of quality in spin bowling for me

Yes its been great to watch but lets not get too carried away. Our top 3 are still very vulnerable to lateral movement, I agree RR we need a quality spinner & a reliable quick bowler (90MPH+) who doesn't keep breaking down like Archer & Wood. 

The acid test for this new regime will come on the next winter tour & of course the Ashes series next summer. However the attacking philosophy introduced is a breath of fresh air and should make a drawn game a collector's item. 


Posted By: roy munster
Date Posted: 07 July 2022 at 1:56pm
Its bizarre to think but the emergence of 20/20 and growth of one day cricket has inadvertantly saved test cricket....How? Well firstly it kept the big crowds coming to cricket with sell out one dayers and in time the skills developed in the shorter game have been transferred to the longer game. The skills and the positive attacking instincts... You couldnt have dreamt of seeing a run chase like that in the 70s 80s 90s ..Even beefy wasnt reverse sweeping sixes over mid off lol Sometimes it goes too far but thats all down to judging each ball on merit as Root seems to do so well... The 2005 ashes was epic and there have been umpteen other classics since including the epic world cup final. The innovations with third umpires and stump cams and so on have added massively to the spectacle too...Cricket is rightly back to its lofty spot as the best game in the world imo....and the second most popular

What can rugby learn? Simplify the game, create more space for skill and speed, make it more appealing to the masses and encourage more kids of all shapes and sizes...As Benny rightly mentioned in his book, the game was hurtling towards crash bang wallop for too long and he celebrated the rise of the little men such as the french v all blacks 99 classic...Lets face it kids who get inspired want to be benny and shane not derwyn jones lol 




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Posted By: reesytheexile
Date Posted: 07 July 2022 at 2:01pm
Originally posted by roy munster roy munster wrote:

Its bizarre to think but the emergence of 20/20 and growth of one day cricket has inadvertantly saved test cricket....How? Well firstly it kept the big crowds coming to cricket with sell out one dayersEven beefy wasnt reverse sweeping sixes over mid off lol and in time the skills developed in the shorter game have been transferred to the longer game. You couldnt have dreamt of seeing a run chase like that in the 70s 80s 90s The 2005 ashes was epic and there have been umpteen other classics since. The innovations with third umpires and stump cams and so on have added massively to the spectacle too...Cricket is rightly back to its lofty spot as the best game in the world imo....and the second most popular

What can rugby learn? Simplify the game, create more space for skill and speed, make it more appealing to the masses and encourage more kids of all shapes and sizes...As Benny rightly mentioned in his book, the game was hurtling towards crash bang wallop for too long and he celebrated the rise of the little men such as the french v all blacks 99 classic...Lets face it kids who get inspired want to be benny and shane not derwyn jones lol 


Isn’t that also the role of 7 a side perhaps? The WRU don’t invest in this wing of rugby and it’s a means of getting young men into rugby with the hope some could migrate on to 15 a side? 


Posted By: roy munster
Date Posted: 07 July 2022 at 2:13pm
Originally posted by reesytheexile reesytheexile wrote:

Originally posted by roy munster roy munster wrote:

Its bizarre to think but the emergence of 20/20 and growth of one day cricket has inadvertantly saved test cricket....How? Well firstly it kept the big crowds coming to cricket with sell out one dayersEven beefy wasnt reverse sweeping sixes over mid off lol and in time the skills developed in the shorter game have been transferred to the longer game. You couldnt have dreamt of seeing a run chase like that in the 70s 80s 90s The 2005 ashes was epic and there have been umpteen other classics since. The innovations with third umpires and stump cams and so on have added massively to the spectacle too...Cricket is rightly back to its lofty spot as the best game in the world imo....and the second most popular

What can rugby learn? Simplify the game, create more space for skill and speed, make it more appealing to the masses and encourage more kids of all shapes and sizes...As Benny rightly mentioned in his book, the game was hurtling towards crash bang wallop for too long and he celebrated the rise of the little men such as the french v all blacks 99 classic...Lets face it kids who get inspired want to be benny and shane not derwyn jones lol 


Isn’t that also the role of 7 a side perhaps? The WRU don’t invest in this wing of rugby and it’s a means of getting young men into rugby with the hope some could migrate on to 15 a side? 

Definitely, great point. Sevens is hugely popular and the ideal vehicle to develop skills etc The all blacks as always uttilise this far more than any other major nation...It used to be more popular in the 80s and 90s the snelling sevens cwmtawe sevens and so on used to be packed with all the main test team welsh internationals....The genius thats come through sevens includes Likes of serevi , campo, cheslin colby, the barrett brothers, the savea brothers, darcy graham, cubby boi, chris cullen, rocokoko , muiliania , habana etc We definitely under utilise the sevens game..You can tell these players are more comfortable in space than others...This is also where the mighty Lomu was burst through and he was handy lol


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Posted By: reesytheexile
Date Posted: 07 July 2022 at 3:49pm
Originally posted by roy munster roy munster wrote:

Originally posted by reesytheexile reesytheexile wrote:

Originally posted by roy munster roy munster wrote:

Its bizarre to think but the emergence of 20/20 and growth of one day cricket has inadvertantly saved test cricket....How? Well firstly it kept the big crowds coming to cricket with sell out one dayersEven beefy wasnt reverse sweeping sixes over mid off lol and in time the skills developed in the shorter game have been transferred to the longer game. You couldnt have dreamt of seeing a run chase like that in the 70s 80s 90s The 2005 ashes was epic and there have been umpteen other classics since. The innovations with third umpires and stump cams and so on have added massively to the spectacle too...Cricket is rightly back to its lofty spot as the best game in the world imo....and the second most popular

What can rugby learn? Simplify the game, create more space for skill and speed, make it more appealing to the masses and encourage more kids of all shapes and sizes...As Benny rightly mentioned in his book, the game was hurtling towards crash bang wallop for too long and he celebrated the rise of the little men such as the french v all blacks 99 classic...Lets face it kids who get inspired want to be benny and shane not derwyn jones lol 


Isn’t that also the role of 7 a side perhaps? The WRU don’t invest in this wing of rugby and it’s a means of getting young men into rugby with the hope some could migrate on to 15 a side? 

Definitely, great point. Sevens is hugely popular and the ideal vehicle to develop skills etc The all blacks as always uttilise this far more than any other major nation...It used to be more popular in the 80s and 90s the snelling sevens cwmtawe sevens and so on used to be packed with all the main test team welsh internationals....The genius thats come through sevens includes Likes of serevi , campo, cheslin colby, the barrett brothers, the savea brothers, darcy graham, cubby boi, chris cullen, rocokoko , muiliania , habana etc We definitely under utilise the sevens game..You can tell these players are more comfortable in space than others...This is also where the mighty Lomu was burst through and he was handy lol
And the 70’s . Snelling 7’s / Middlesex 7’s/Melrose 7’s in Scotland etc . It was popular with international players. It needs review imo as a means to recruit players outside the Academy type route as well. Let’s widen the options for young players 


Posted By: RR1972
Date Posted: 07 July 2022 at 7:15pm
Lets see test cricket played in a t20 style when the ball is turning at right angles out in the sub continet , especially with englands top 3Wink. Mind you if they open with butler or hales who knows!


Posted By: dyniol53
Date Posted: 07 July 2022 at 8:41pm
Yeah there is a suspicion that the Dukes balls this summer are worse than normal (go soft very soon) which is why it’s swinging less and easier to bat against, especially in the middle overs.

But even that doesn’t minimise how incredible the last 4 tests were.


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Posted By: RR1972
Date Posted: 07 July 2022 at 9:36pm
Your right fair play to england been a great watch and 4 top class tests


Posted By: roy munster
Date Posted: 14 August 2022 at 4:42pm
I stand corrected somewhat on the hundred, in terms of viewing and ticket sales, its been a roaring success again....Over half a million tickets sold, 10,000+ at Welsh fire games, 20,000+ at Lords, the final an expected sell out at Lords too....The women have been playing front of an average 7500 crowd as theyve played the double headers....I read that over 50% of these fans are new to cricket and never attended a game before.  https://www.ecb.co.uk/news/2230059/more-than-16m-tune-in-to-the-hundred-as-competition-welcomes-new-fans-to-cricket" rel="nofollow - https://www.ecb.co.uk/news/2230059/more-than-16m-tune-in-to-the-hundred-as-competition-welcomes-new-fans-to-cricket

Theres live music in all the breaks in play, its a world class stadium now with something for everyone, they even had a rent a hot tub on the boundary a few seasons back lol
The purists may not be totally enamoured with it, but who can argue with the figures....Its clearly bring vast numbers of new fans, young and old, both genders too....The BBC coverage has been comprehensive ....So its all good for the growth of the game....The one factor Id overlooked is the skills the short short game has helped develop and been brought into the test arena.....Lets face it even the most hardened test cricket fan would fall asleep watching the likes of geoff boycott defending all day for a bore draw...LOL


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Posted By: RR1972
Date Posted: 14 August 2022 at 7:58pm
The 100 score board hurts my eyesWink


Posted By: dyniol53
Date Posted: 15 August 2022 at 7:37pm
Originally posted by roy munster roy munster wrote:

The purists may not be totally enamoured with it, but who can argue with the figures....Its clearly bring vast numbers of new fans, young and old, both genders too....The BBC coverage has been comprehensive ....So its all good for the growth of the game.....LOL

The figures are impressive dependent on the marketing spend.

Argument from many cricket fans from the start was that if you invested the equivalent sum of money into the T20 blast you’d have had much similar results and fewer long term problems.

There was nothing stopping them getting more coverage on the BBC or Free to air before. 

The was nothing stopping them investing in match day experience.

Nothing stopping them advertising like they have. 

There were a few things that it defo did make a difference for
- womens game 
- in game innovations like one fewer player out on the boundary for slow over rate
- not having to change ends at the end of every over.
- reduce to 8 sides 

A lot of these things I think could have been done anyway within the T20 blast structure but I’d guess the counties were intransigent and the ECB was sick of it


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Posted By: RR1972
Date Posted: 15 August 2022 at 7:49pm
F the 100 takes off rest assured counties will be culled


Posted By: RR1972
Date Posted: 19 August 2022 at 4:55pm
They got a total pasting today well played the saffers


Posted By: GPR - Rochester
Date Posted: 19 August 2022 at 5:06pm
Originally posted by RR1972 RR1972 wrote:

They got a total pasting today well played the saffers

Match won by the South African bowling attack. Lets face it I would fancy my chances of surviving against England's pace attack none of whom can get it much beyond 85 MPH. 90-95MPH is a totally different proposition. In cloudy overcast conditions Broad & Anderson will trouble many batsmen but do we really think that we can win the ashes with those two???? As for batting we need two solid, competent opening batsmen to give us a steady start before we unleash the strokemakers - it was always thus & no change of leadership will change the fundamentals of test cricket. 

Where is the next Boycott because that is what England desperately need. South Africa's Rabanda is the best bowler in the world for me. 


Posted By: RR1972
Date Posted: 19 August 2022 at 6:23pm
They need wood and archer back first


Posted By: Eastern outpost
Date Posted: 19 August 2022 at 8:10pm
Originally posted by GPR - Rochester GPR - Rochester wrote:

Originally posted by RR1972 RR1972 wrote:

They got a total pasting today well played the saffers

Match won by the South African bowling attack. Lets face it I would fancy my chances of surviving against England's pace attack none of whom can get it much beyond 85 MPH. 90-95MPH is a totally different proposition. In cloudy overcast conditions Broad & Anderson will trouble many batsmen but do we really think that we can win the ashes with those two???? As for batting we need two solid, competent opening batsmen to give us a steady start before we unleash the strokemakers - it was always thus & no change of leadership will change the fundamentals of test cricket. 

Where is the next Boycott because that is what England desperately need. South Africa's Rabanda is the best bowler in the world for me. 
Boycott and Bazball - mutually exclusive

Bit like Bob the Geog and proper funding for the pro game in Wales/sensible business decisions.


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Posted By: roy munster
Date Posted: 21 August 2022 at 8:27pm
Just need to bring through some world class bowlers before anderson and broad one day finally hang up their spikes

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Posted By: GPR - Rochester
Date Posted: 22 August 2022 at 8:56am
Originally posted by Eastern outpost Eastern outpost wrote:

Originally posted by GPR - Rochester GPR - Rochester wrote:

Originally posted by RR1972 RR1972 wrote:

They got a total pasting today well played the saffers

Match won by the South African bowling attack. Lets face it I would fancy my chances of surviving against England's pace attack none of whom can get it much beyond 85 MPH. 90-95MPH is a totally different proposition. In cloudy overcast conditions Broad & Anderson will trouble many batsmen but do we really think that we can win the ashes with those two???? As for batting we need two solid, competent opening batsmen to give us a steady start before we unleash the strokemakers - it was always thus & no change of leadership will change the fundamentals of test cricket. 

Where is the next Boycott because that is what England desperately need. South Africa's Rabanda is the best bowler in the world for me. 
Boycott and Bazball - mutually exclusive

Bit like Bob the Geog and proper funding for the pro game in Wales/sensible business decisions.

As someone who would describe himself as the very poor man's Boycott when I played I firmly believe that in test cricket a solid, defensively accurate opener is a must have. Exposing the dashers we have at 3, 5 & 6 to a swinging, hard ball against top bowlers is going to fail far more than succeed. Stokes, as captain, appears to me to have lost the plot. His attitude when he comes in looks as if he's playing 20/20 not 5 day test cricket. He is a very accomplished batsmen capable of building a big innings and when he is set is very difficult to bowl at but why is he trying to slog hit in his first few overs at the crease even when we are 4 down for not many?????

Attacking, result cricket is to be applauded but you have to get the balance right. We need far more from Stokes than a streaky 20 from 15 balls. He will always score quickly so why the hail Marys from ball 1????


Posted By: Eastern outpost
Date Posted: 22 August 2022 at 9:20am
Originally posted by GPR - Rochester GPR - Rochester wrote:

Originally posted by Eastern outpost Eastern outpost wrote:

Originally posted by GPR - Rochester GPR - Rochester wrote:

Originally posted by RR1972 RR1972 wrote:

They got a total pasting today well played the saffers

Match won by the South African bowling attack. Lets face it I would fancy my chances of surviving against England's pace attack none of whom can get it much beyond 85 MPH. 90-95MPH is a totally different proposition. In cloudy overcast conditions Broad & Anderson will trouble many batsmen but do we really think that we can win the ashes with those two???? As for batting we need two solid, competent opening batsmen to give us a steady start before we unleash the strokemakers - it was always thus & no change of leadership will change the fundamentals of test cricket. 

Where is the next Boycott because that is what England desperately need. South Africa's Rabanda is the best bowler in the world for me. 
Boycott and Bazball - mutually exclusive

Bit like Bob the Geog and proper funding for the pro game in Wales/sensible business decisions.

As someone who would describe himself as the very poor man's Boycott when I played I firmly believe that in test cricket a solid, defensively accurate opener is a must have. Exposing the dashers we have at 3, 5 & 6 to a swinging, hard ball against top bowlers is going to fail far more than succeed. Stokes, as captain, appears to me to have lost the plot. His attitude when he comes in looks as if he's playing 20/20 not 5 day test cricket. He is a very accomplished batsmen capable of building a big innings and when he is set is very difficult to bowl at but why is he trying to slog hit in his first few overs at the crease even when we are 4 down for not many?????

Attacking, result cricket is to be applauded but you have to get the balance right. We need far more from Stokes than a streaky 20 from 15 balls. He will always score quickly so why the hail Marys from ball 1????
Economically, it is awful for the game if tests regularly finish in 3 days, or less and that will filter down to the rest of the game.

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Posted By: RR1972
Date Posted: 22 August 2022 at 10:13am
It’s a hard task to go 5 an over against a seam attack like the saffers.  Will england adapt or go for more of the same?



Posted By: reesytheexile
Date Posted: 22 August 2022 at 5:07pm
Originally posted by Eastern outpost Eastern outpost wrote:

Originally posted by GPR - Rochester GPR - Rochester wrote:

Originally posted by Eastern outpost Eastern outpost wrote:

Originally posted by GPR - Rochester GPR - Rochester wrote:

Originally posted by RR1972 RR1972 wrote:

They got a total pasting today well played the saffers

Match won by the South African bowling attack. Lets face it I would fancy my chances of surviving against England's pace attack none of whom can get it much beyond 85 MPH. 90-95MPH is a totally different proposition. In cloudy overcast conditions Broad & Anderson will trouble many batsmen but do we really think that we can win the ashes with those two???? As for batting we need two solid, competent opening batsmen to give us a steady start before we unleash the strokemakers - it was always thus & no change of leadership will change the fundamentals of test cricket. 

Where is the next Boycott because that is what England desperately need. South Africa's Rabanda is the best bowler in the world for me. 
Boycott and Bazball - mutually exclusive

Bit like Bob the Geog and proper funding for the pro game in Wales/sensible business decisions.

As someone who would describe himself as the very poor man's Boycott when I played I firmly believe that in test cricket a solid, defensively accurate opener is a must have. Exposing the dashers we have at 3, 5 & 6 to a swinging, hard ball against top bowlers is going to fail far more than succeed. Stokes, as captain, appears to me to have lost the plot. His attitude when he comes in looks as if he's playing 20/20 not 5 day test cricket. He is a very accomplished batsmen capable of building a big innings and when he is set is very difficult to bowl at but why is he trying to slog hit in his first few overs at the crease even when we are 4 down for not many?????

Attacking, result cricket is to be applauded but you have to get the balance right. We need far more from Stokes than a streaky 20 from 15 balls. He will always score quickly so why the hail Marys from ball 1????
Economically, it is awful for the game if tests regularly finish in 3 days, or less and that will filter down to the rest of the game.
 
Not a regular watcher these days but don’t most Test matches end within 4 days now ie everywhere? Why can’t we move to 4 day tests ? That means you can then fit in an extra Test for the public and so they are happy and money still comes in? 🤔 I am not sure the modern appetite is there in 2022 for 5 days of cricket with younger fans either 


Posted By: roy munster
Date Posted: 24 August 2022 at 11:20am
Test cricket still gets big crowds , especially in england , India, australia.....I agree its a balancing act to take your skills from one version of the game to another.....The best batsmen like Lara, Tendulkar, king viv , miandad, you could usually tell when they were set for a big innings as they were usually conservative for the first hour or so, get their eye in, suss out the bowling , the conditions, the pitch, wear the bowler and the ball down then go mad later lol

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Posted By: GPR - Rochester
Date Posted: 25 August 2022 at 8:31am
Time for Crawley to get some runs or he will be in big danger of being cast off into the wilderness. Time also for Ben Stokes to get his head out of the shed and bat like a top all rounder. The toss could prove crucial. South Africa to bowl first for me if they win it. 


Posted By: RR1972
Date Posted: 25 August 2022 at 9:51am
England can beat anyone but can also lose to anyone , should he a good game


Posted By: GPR - Rochester
Date Posted: 25 August 2022 at 1:19pm
Originally posted by GPR - Rochester GPR - Rochester wrote:

Time for Crawley to get some runs or he will be in big danger of being cast off into the wilderness. Time also for Ben Stokes to get his head out of the shed and bat like a top all rounder. The toss could prove crucial. South Africa to bowl first for me if they win it. 

Looks as if Elgar may have made the wrong call - why give a batting team who are clearly struggling a get out by asking them to bowl in favourable conditions????


Posted By: RR1972
Date Posted: 25 August 2022 at 2:33pm
Good call re bowling first gprClapClap


Posted By: Iwlew
Date Posted: 25 August 2022 at 4:24pm
I think The Hundred is fantastic. Brilliant for bringing younger people into the game. I also like the fact that games are pretty much on every day so for example on a Tuesday evening you can sit down and watch. As for Welsh Fire though, some big improvements needed on recruitment next season in the batting department Ermm

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Posted By: GPR - Rochester
Date Posted: 26 August 2022 at 6:53am
Originally posted by RR1972 RR1972 wrote:

Good call re bowling first gprClapClap

Took a risk in getting through the morning session because they had decided to pick two spinners - talk about backing yourself into a corner. The SA seam attack is clearly superior to England - for me I would have gone with the same team and asked them to bat in tough conditions. Tough one to win from where they are now.


Posted By: RR1972
Date Posted: 26 August 2022 at 8:16am
Originally posted by Iwlew Iwlew wrote:

I think The Hundred is fantastic. Brilliant for bringing younger people into the game. I also like the fact that games are pretty much on every day so for example on a Tuesday evening you can sit down and watch. As for Welsh Fire though, some big improvements needed on recruitment next season in the batting department Ermm
100 won’t last long no other nation plays it, cam’t see it being a long term thing, welsh fire ate dreadful men and women both bottom!


Posted By: RR1972
Date Posted: 26 August 2022 at 8:17am
Originally posted by GPR - Rochester GPR - Rochester wrote:

Originally posted by RR1972 RR1972 wrote:

Good call re bowling first gprClapClap

Took a risk in getting through the morning session because they had decided to pick two spinners - talk about backing yourself into a corner. The SA seam attack is clearly superior to England - for me I would have gone with the same team and asked them to bat in tough conditions. Tough one to win from where they are now.
games over england will get 250 plus saffers will be beaten in 3 days, more revenue lost!


Posted By: reesytheexile
Date Posted: 26 August 2022 at 8:29am
I would have loved to see Geoffrey Boycott play in the 100 😂 


Posted By: GPR - Rochester
Date Posted: 26 August 2022 at 1:46pm
Originally posted by reesytheexile reesytheexile wrote:

I would have loved to see Geoffrey Boycott play in the 100 😂 

I reesy - 20 not out after 100 balls!!!!!


Posted By: GPR - Rochester
Date Posted: 27 August 2022 at 7:15am
Glad to see that Ben Stokes reads the forum. Thats more like it Ben. Edgar & his advisors have got this match horribly wrong.


Posted By: RR1972
Date Posted: 27 August 2022 at 11:21am
When stokes comes good hes a match changer


Posted By: RR1972
Date Posted: 27 August 2022 at 11:21am
Originally posted by GPR - Rochester GPR - Rochester wrote:

Originally posted by reesytheexile reesytheexile wrote:

I would have loved to see Geoffrey Boycott play in the 100 😂 

I reesy - 20 not out after 100 balls!!!!!
boycs did hit 150 plus in a one final amazingky enough


Posted By: roy munster
Date Posted: 28 August 2022 at 1:41pm
Originally posted by reesytheexile reesytheexile wrote:

I would have loved to see Geoffrey Boycott play in the 100 😂 
his team mates would have had to run him out, again LOL


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Posted By: dyniol53
Date Posted: 01 September 2022 at 2:03pm
Viewing figures for the Hundred drop by 20%  https://t.co/hdaCMncPsk" rel="nofollow - https://t.co/hdaCMncPsk

Double the audience ~1m for test match highlights though 


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Posted By: GPR - Rochester
Date Posted: 08 September 2022 at 7:50am
Looking forward to seeing Harry Brook make his debut batting at 5. Lets see what South Africa have learnt from the 2nd test. Weather sure to play a part. My guess is they will dispense with the 2nd spinner & revert to a four man pace attack.


Posted By: RR1972
Date Posted: 08 September 2022 at 9:37am
Hales back in the 20/20 squad, stokes sounded delightedWink


Posted By: GPR - Rochester
Date Posted: 09 September 2022 at 8:41am
As I thought South Africa are playing an extra seamer at the expense of a spinner. Good toss to win for England & they should be able to exploit the overcast conditions when play finally commences possibly tomorrow. 


Posted By: GPR - Rochester
Date Posted: 09 September 2022 at 8:45am
Originally posted by RR1972 RR1972 wrote:

Hales back in the 20/20 squad, stokes sounded delightedWink

Hales is a top limited overs player with a dodgy past - sounds a bit like Stokesy until he got his act together.


Posted By: RR1972
Date Posted: 09 September 2022 at 9:34am
Originally posted by GPR - Rochester GPR - Rochester wrote:

As I thought South Africa are playing an extra seamer at the expense of a spinner. Good toss to win for England & they should be able to exploit the overcast conditions when play finally commences possibly tomorrow. 
wish i’d bet the draw now!Wink


Posted By: GPR - Rochester
Date Posted: 09 September 2022 at 9:49am
Originally posted by RR1972 RR1972 wrote:

Originally posted by GPR - Rochester GPR - Rochester wrote:

As I thought South Africa are playing an extra seamer at the expense of a spinner. Good toss to win for England & they should be able to exploit the overcast conditions when play finally commences possibly tomorrow. 
wish i’d bet the draw now!Wink

Forecast is a lot better for Saturday onwards. 4 days will be enough to get a result with these two batting lineups.LOL


Posted By: GPR - Rochester
Date Posted: 11 September 2022 at 7:38am
Ben Stokes is such an infuriating player. What sort of shots did he try to play yesterday. Gung ho again - why doesn't he just bat properly which for him is usually scoring at a run a ball. Trying to smash 90MPH bowlers back over their heads rarely works when you have just arrived at the crease. If they carry on like this game will be over today!!!!!


Posted By: RR1972
Date Posted: 11 September 2022 at 3:46pm
2 day test matches what a nonsense, sa can’t bat england can only bat 1 way all put attack, not a great idea on a seaming track


Posted By: hoppy
Date Posted: 13 November 2022 at 12:49pm
Congratulations to England on winning the world cup twenty twenty 


Posted By: scarletpimp
Date Posted: 13 November 2022 at 1:02pm
As a Glamorgan  member I watch a lot of cricket. 
Not a 20/20  fan, but I admire the skill that the players have  learnt to enhance their skills (reverse sweep..etc), apart from brilliant fielding.

After a dismal weekend  for English sport, with red roses and RL losing,for the cricket team to lose another final would have been  disastrous. They did'nt!
Ben Stokes will get the headlines,  for his remarkable innings..but the stand out performer was Curren., both in this game and the tournament  in general .
Well done England, after the blip against Ireland , the success was well deserved!


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Posted By: Eastern outpost
Date Posted: 13 November 2022 at 1:19pm
Originally posted by scarletpimp scarletpimp wrote:

As a Glamorgan  member I watch a lot of cricket. 
Not a 20/20  fan, but I admire the skill that the players have  learnt to enhance their skills (reverse sweep..etc), apart from brilliant fielding.

After a dismal weekend  for English sport, with red roses and RL losing,for the cricket team to lose another final would have been  disastrous. They did'nt!
Ben Stokes will get the headlines,  for his remarkable innings..but the stand out performer was Curren., both in this game and the tournament  in general .
Well done England, after the blip against Ireland , the success was well deserved!
Curran player of the match and tournament. He was slightly non-plussed.

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Posted By: Oracle
Date Posted: 13 November 2022 at 5:42pm
Cricket ...the best solution to insomnia  Big smile


Posted By: GPR - Rochester
Date Posted: 14 November 2022 at 7:38am
Great achievement. The return of Hales one of the many decisions Rob Keys has got spot on since he took over. His performance in the semi final against India along with Buttler was the most destructive piece of batting I have seen in the short game - he was simply unplayable. 


Posted By: GPR - Rochester
Date Posted: 14 November 2022 at 9:19am
Originally posted by Oracle Oracle wrote:

Cricket ...the best solution to insomnia  Big smile

Funny that - talk of North Korean involvement and Cross Hands espionage does it for me every time. LOL


Posted By: Fscarlet
Date Posted: 14 November 2022 at 9:39am
Was a great tournament to be fair, really enjoyed. The final was a much tighter affair than the semi which was just brutal.


Posted By: Eastern outpost
Date Posted: 14 November 2022 at 9:59am
Originally posted by GPR - Rochester GPR - Rochester wrote:

Originally posted by Oracle Oracle wrote:

Cricket ...the best solution to insomnia  Big smile

Funny that - talk of North Korean involvement and Cross Hands espionage does it for me every time. LOL
And there was me thinking I was alone.

However, you’re never alone when the NK Oracle wants to keep an eye and ear on you.Big smile


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Posted By: Oracle
Date Posted: 14 November 2022 at 1:14pm
Why is it the England and wales cricket board , but they refer to it as the ECB...what happened to the W

Also how do the cricket followers on here feel about the above point and that you never see the ref dragon fly at lord's ....I would have thought that both entities in a relationship would be mentioned, otherwise what is the point in calling it the English and Wales.... Why not leave it as engerland

Answers would be appreciated


Posted By: scarletpimp
Date Posted: 14 November 2022 at 9:58pm
Originally posted by Oracle Oracle wrote:

Why is it the England and wales cricket board , but they refer to it as the ECB...what happened to the W

Also how do the cricket followers on here feel about the above point and that you never see the ref dragon fly at lord's ....I would have thought that both entities in a relationship would be mentioned, otherwise what is the point in calling it the English and Wales.... Why not leave it as england

Answers would be appreciated

Cannot answer that Oracle. A mystery?
You are right the correct term should be E &W C B.
Both Scotland and Ireland have their own teams which participate in major competitions, therefore independent. Wales play minor counties.
All Glamorgan players, or Welsh born players qualify to play for England, like Phil Salt (now with Lancs)
The last Glamorgan player to represent England was Simon Jones in the ashes series of 2005.
I was I very proud of that, as he has Llanelli roots. His father, another test match bowler, Jeff Jones, grew up in the same street as my grandparents, Gelligdeg,Capel.
As an opening bat, I faced Jeff Jones once, and survived, more by total luck than design.
It was a very scary experience.

Finally, another of my favourites Robert croft of Hendy, once famously said
"When I am representing for England, I think I am playing for the British Lions, and when I represent Glamorgan, I think I am playing for Wales "

I that sums up perfectly, why the Dragon and the Lion should be flying TOGETHER, at Lords




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Posted By: Oracle
Date Posted: 14 November 2022 at 10:02pm
My 2 sides when I watch cricket
Australia in tests
Mumbai Indians in the I.P.L

I can't put a big chunk of nostalgia in the middle as I am not as old as you 

Wink






Posted By: RR1972
Date Posted: 14 November 2022 at 10:28pm
29/20 has killed test cricket for poorer nations like the west imdies, their best players are playing that rather than test crickrt and crowds are way down, eng india and aus are the exception not the rule.


Posted By: RR1972
Date Posted: 14 November 2022 at 10:32pm
I don’t suppprt england at cricket regardless of the england wales cricket board thing. Great win for them but i’m not having them as my team . Stokes a legit england great for sure


Posted By: Sir Duckling Tuft
Date Posted: 15 November 2022 at 4:25am
Originally posted by Oracle Oracle wrote:

Why is it the England and wales cricket board , but they refer to it as the ECB...what happened to the W

Also how do the cricket followers on here feel about the above point and that you never see the ref dragon fly at lord's ....I would have thought that both entities in a relationship would be mentioned, otherwise what is the point in calling it the English and Wales.... Why not leave it as engerland

Answers would be appreciated

Omitting the W is ridiculous and should be more than addressed, its a disgrace




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Posted By: Sir Duckling Tuft
Date Posted: 15 November 2022 at 4:44am
Originally posted by Oracle Oracle wrote:

Cricket ...the best solution to insomnia  Big smile

If anything its the opposite for me...The semi final and final with hales and buttler scoring at 12 an over, sixes all over the place and 80,000 at the MCG in the final screaming their hearts out were magnificent spectacles.

Its the second most popular sport in the world with an estimated 2.5 billion fans, the 50 over world cup final saw a tv audience of 1.6 billion, 20 times the superbowl audience

I like all 3 versions of the game but I fear the shorter game may take over too much. Though its a lt easier to take a few hrs off work than 5 days lol


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Posted By: Sir Duckling Tuft
Date Posted: 15 November 2022 at 4:44am
Originally posted by Sir Duckling Tuft Sir Duckling Tuft wrote:

Originally posted by Oracle Oracle wrote:

Cricket ...the best solution to insomnia  Big smile

If anything its the opposite for me...The semi final and final with hales and buttler scoring at 12 an over, sixes all over the place and 80,000 at the MCG in the final screaming their hearts out were magnificent spectacles.

Its the second most popular sport in the world with an estimated 2.5 billion fans, the 50 over world cup final saw a tv audience of 1.6 billion, 20 times the superbowl audience

I like all 3 versions of the game but I fear the shorter game may take over too much. Though I must admit its a lot easier to take a few hrs off work than 5 days lol


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Posted By: scarletpimp
Date Posted: 15 November 2022 at 11:25am
LOL
Originally posted by Sir Duckling Tuft Sir Duckling Tuft wrote:

Originally posted by Sir Duckling Tuft Sir Duckling Tuft wrote:

Originally posted by Oracle Oracle wrote:

Cricket ...the best solution to insomnia  Big smile

If anything its the opposite for me...The semi final and final with hales and buttler scoring at 12 an over, sixes all over the place and 80,000 at the MCG in the final screaming their hearts out were magnificent spectacles.

Its the second most popular sport in the world with an estimated 2.5 billion fans, the 50 over world cup final saw a tv audience of 1.6 billion, 20 times the superbowl audience

I like all 3 versions of the game but I fear the shorter game may take over too much. Though I must admit its a lot easier to take a few hrs off work than 5 days lol

Sir Duckling Tuft 1 Oracle 0
LOLLOLLOLLOLLOL


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Posted By: Oracle
Date Posted: 15 November 2022 at 11:30am
I didn't realise it was a competition....what is the prize are we competing for Big smile


Posted By: Sir Duckling Tuft
Date Posted: 15 November 2022 at 3:09pm
nah were not competing, Im just trying to increase the number of cricket fans to 2.5 billion plus oracle LOL

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Posted By: RR1972
Date Posted: 15 November 2022 at 3:21pm
Originally posted by Sir Duckling Tuft Sir Duckling Tuft wrote:

Originally posted by Oracle Oracle wrote:

Why is it the England and wales cricket board , but they refer to it as the ECB...what happened to the W

Also how do the cricket followers on here feel about the above point and that you never see the ref dragon fly at lord's ....I would have thought that both entities in a relationship would be mentioned, otherwise what is the point in calling it the English and Wales.... Why not leave it as engerland

Answers would be appreciated

Omitting the W is ridiculous and should be more than addressed, its a disgrace


weren’t the old england tours under the auspice of the mcc? Not sure when the ecb or ecwb came into it all


Posted By: Eastern outpost
Date Posted: 15 November 2022 at 6:33pm
Originally posted by RR1972 RR1972 wrote:

Originally posted by Sir Duckling Tuft Sir Duckling Tuft wrote:

Originally posted by Oracle Oracle wrote:

Why is it the England and wales cricket board , but they refer to it as the ECB...what happened to the W

Also how do the cricket followers on here feel about the above point and that you never see the ref dragon fly at lord's ....I would have thought that both entities in a relationship would be mentioned, otherwise what is the point in calling it the English and Wales.... Why not leave it as engerland

Answers would be appreciated

Omitting the W is ridiculous and should be more than addressed, its a disgrace


weren’t the old england tours under the auspice of the mcc? Not sure when the ecb or ecwb came into it all
Yes, they were always MCC when playing abroad. Can’t recall when it changed. Probably a marketing/sponsorship/financially-driven event.

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Posted By: RR1972
Date Posted: 03 December 2022 at 9:34am
I’d love to bat on this pitch not so keen to bowl on it!


Posted By: GPR - Rochester
Date Posted: 03 December 2022 at 9:38am
Originally posted by RR1972 RR1972 wrote:

I’d love to bat on this pitch not so keen to bowl on it!

I've heard of flat tracks but this is ridiculous.LOL


Posted By: RR1972
Date Posted: 03 December 2022 at 9:45am
England going to be behind on first innings after hitting 650LOLLOLLOL


Posted By: scarletpimp
Date Posted: 04 December 2022 at 12:08am
A bizarre game to say the least !

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Posted By: roy munster
Date Posted: 04 December 2022 at 5:46pm
bizarre but exciting, this is  50/50 contest now

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Posted By: GPR - Rochester
Date Posted: 05 December 2022 at 1:21pm
Great win in all fairness. I remain unconvinced about the new approach but you cannot argue its getting results. As always the acid test will be the ashes - send the Aussies packing & I will be a convert. 


Posted By: RR1972
Date Posted: 05 December 2022 at 1:36pm
That is why test cricket is the greatest format of the game. Well played england


Posted By: scarletpimp
Date Posted: 06 December 2022 at 2:26am
Originally posted by RR1972 RR1972 wrote:

That is why test cricket is the greatest format of the game. Well played england

Well said RR.. totally engrossing contest today.
Its real cricket not contrived nonsense like the hundred played by mercenaries.
I am a Glamorgan member, but wouldn't go across the road to watch Welsh Fire (with or without a Welshman).

Well done England !


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Posted By: Oracle
Date Posted: 06 December 2022 at 6:14am
Best cure for insomnia you can get Wink


Posted By: roy munster
Date Posted: 06 December 2022 at 7:57am
Another epic test match on a docile pitch in front of a packed crowd...Stokes has already won the world cup in 20/20, 50/50 and some awesome ashes displays...As skiper he is taking some chances, but at the moments hes got the midas touch, as you say lets hope it continues into the ashes summer next year

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Posted By: GPR - Rochester
Date Posted: 12 December 2022 at 9:57am
Well done England - pace bowlers in particular for keeping going in extreme heat. Anderson at 40 is a revelation. 


Posted By: scarletpimp
Date Posted: 12 December 2022 at 10:34am
On the backof a good win at Parc yesterday,  so good today to get up and learn  England had won the test and series.
I played cricket until I was in my 40'sConfused, and as a Glam member  watch a fair amount  of cricket, but I can never remember  winning  two tests in Pakistan before. 

The transformation  of Stokes and McCulum's leadership is remarkable, an absolute  joy ! 
Team playing without fear,and tempering aggressive  play, without being reckless.
There was a school of thought to introduce  Brook, last summer,  but now he really  burst on the scene, and has massive potential. 
Hope they can go on and win win in Karachi, which would then  mean a 3-0 series win..unheard of on sub- continent. 
Thoughts must soon go to next summer and the ashes.
A mouth watering prospect, particularly  with two of our Glam players Marnus L, and Michael Neser playing for aussies!

On top of the 20/20 triumph  its a great  time,and hopefully  can continue. Test match cricket is the pinicle really,and this series  proves how  exciting  it can be!


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Posted By: Oracle
Date Posted: 12 December 2022 at 12:20pm
Went to parkistan a few years ago and couldn't believe how nice the place is...After traveling in India the previous year , the biggest shock to anyone travelling from the airport to Karachi is how clean it is ...no ghetto shacks , in fact it looks more like a European city like Berlin and the people were nicer and less in your face  ....it's generally a lot cooler to ...totally pleasant shock ...so saying what I have I am gutted for them in losing to the saes ....I know my friend siphal will be upset with the result 


Posted By: Eastern outpost
Date Posted: 12 December 2022 at 12:31pm
Originally posted by Oracle Oracle wrote:

Went to parkistan a few years ago and couldn't believe how nice the place is...After traveling in India the previous year , the biggest shock to anyone travelling from the airport to Karachi is how clean it is ...no ghetto shacks , in fact it looks more like a European city like Berlin and the people were nicer and less in your face  ....it's generally a lot cooler to ...totally pleasant shock ...so saying what I have I am gutted for them in losing to the saes ....I know my friend siphal will be upset with the result 
Always a regret that I never managed to visit there and umpire on Pakistan soil during my hockey career.

I umpired them stacks of times, including against India and always enjoyed it. Superb skills and talent.


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Posted By: RR1972
Date Posted: 12 December 2022 at 2:23pm
The big cities in pakistan are very modern the rural areas are very poor and very dangerous. I understamd the swat valley is a lot safer now and is supposedly full of lovely scenery but i wouldn’t take the risk of going there. Good finish to the game today  rare ocassion the 4th innings was the highest score of the game. Wood is a real top bowler he just needs to stay fit


Posted By: GPR - Rochester
Date Posted: 12 December 2022 at 2:33pm
Originally posted by RR1972 RR1972 wrote:

The big cities in pakistan are very modern the rural areas are very poor and very dangerous. I understamd the swat valley is a lot safer now and is supposedly full of lovely scenery but i wouldn’t take the risk of going there. Good finish to the game today  rare ocassion the 4th innings was the highest score of the game. Wood is a real top bowler he just needs to stay fit

Yes I agree about Wood. The strain on the body of bowling 90MPH+ is awesome. His extra pace probably won it for England. 


Posted By: RR1972
Date Posted: 12 December 2022 at 2:42pm
If him and archer are fit england win the ashes imo


Posted By: scarletpimp
Date Posted: 12 December 2022 at 9:20pm
Forgetting the cricket for a min, its fascinating  to hear the experiences  of Oracle ,Eastern Outpost, RR.
I have never been to Pakistan or India, but would love to visit.
It's the great thing about the forum, it's great to learn things !


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Posted By: surfing-mtber
Date Posted: 19 December 2022 at 12:07pm
Anyone listening to the cricket? England absolutely battering Pakistan. Young Ahmed takes a fivefer, Crawley and Ducket score 34 off the first 3 overs!

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Posted By: RR1972
Date Posted: 19 December 2022 at 12:24pm
England may have found their own leggy if so they could really be something special


Posted By: GPR - Rochester
Date Posted: 19 December 2022 at 1:03pm
Originally posted by RR1972 RR1972 wrote:

England may have found their own leggy if so they could really be something special

This lad could be very exciting. 8 wickets in your first test at 18 is not  bad start. 


Posted By: Oracle
Date Posted: 19 December 2022 at 3:32pm
I've heard the he's on his way to Rwanda in the near future , according to Braveerman


Posted By: GPR - Rochester
Date Posted: 22 December 2022 at 9:04am
So thats 9 from 10 under Bazball. I take my hat off to the leadership team for changing England's fortunes dramatically. 

I remain unconvinced that the approach will  work against the best teams in the World such as Australia home or away or India in India. I will reserve final judgement until I see the ashes series next year. McCallum has shown once again the importance attached to selection calls. 

His faith in Duckett, Brooks & Ahmed was totally vindicated. This is the area that i expect Gatland to get his rewards when he takes over. His record of getting selections correct sets him apart from most International coaches certainly Pivac. 



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