Scarlets side to face the Ospreys
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Topic: Scarlets side to face the Ospreys
Posted By: Fscarlet
Subject: Scarlets side to face the Ospreys
Date Posted: 16 September 2022 at 11:59am
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15 Johnny McNicholl; 14 Tom Rogers,13 Jonathan Davies (capt), 12 Johnny Williams, 11 Ryan Conbeer; 10 Sam Costelow, 9 Gareth Davies; 1 Steff Thomas, 2 Ryan Elias, 3 Javan Sebastian, 4 Vaea Fifita, 5 Sam Lousi, 6 Blade Thomson, 7 Tomás Lezana, 8 Sione Kalamafoni. Ken Owens, Leigh Halfpenny, Aaron Shingler, Scott Williams, Steff Evans, Dan Davis, Phil Price, Lewis Rawlins, Joe Roberts, Jac Price, Shaun Evans, Carwyn Tuipulotu, Callum Williams, Kemsley Mathias. |
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Posted By: Seagultaf
Date Posted: 16 September 2022 at 12:02pm
What’s the problem with Rhys Patchell. Not in match day squad and not listed as injured!
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Fscarlet wrote:Posted By: Mr Ian
Date Posted: 16 September 2022 at 12:03pm
| Big names in, really good side and out pack Is a mix between Power and Speed...come on Boys for this new season |
Posted By: Fscarlet
Date Posted: 16 September 2022 at 12:04pm
I have no idea.
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Posted By: greypower1
Date Posted: 16 September 2022 at 12:07pm
14 out injured before the season starts!  ------------- Keep the faith |
Posted By: ladram
Date Posted: 16 September 2022 at 12:18pm
I'd like to see how we compare to other teams in terms of the amount of long term injuries we get as it can't just be bad luck? Puzzled as to why we renewed patchells contract given the amount of time he has been injured before he joined us and since he joined us.
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Posted By: scarletsrules
Date Posted: 16 September 2022 at 12:23pm
I can only imagine its because he hasnt played in so long, we need to manage his fitness properly to get the best out of him, he cant be thrown into a massive game like this having no rugby under his belt in so long, we really needed that pre season v drags last week to give him the game time Im sure he will be in next week on the bench |
Posted By: crj89
Date Posted: 16 September 2022 at 12:24pm
| Good team, cracking physical back row. |
Posted By: Scrletsfan32x
Date Posted: 16 September 2022 at 12:28pm
| We have picked the strongest possible team, the Ospreys are at nearly full strength, I fear for tomorrow that it’s not going to be close. |
Posted By: crj89
Date Posted: 16 September 2022 at 12:31pm
We have a very strong team, that’s very pessimistic of you and I hope to come back to that comment tomorrow.
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Posted By: Scrletsfan32x
Date Posted: 16 September 2022 at 12:32pm
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Posted By: Fscarlet
Date Posted: 16 September 2022 at 12:39pm
Newcastle have 17 out
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Posted By: Why
Date Posted: 16 September 2022 at 12:46pm
I’m struggling to see apart from speed in the back row where they are stronger. We more than match their front row, second row I would say we are stronger. Our front five will be quicker around the park no doubt. We have the better ball carriers upfront for probably the first time ever against them. I would put the backs on a par, with us having more pace in the back three. ------------- She asks why i still can't answer. I guess its in the blood. |
Posted By: Fscarlet
Date Posted: 16 September 2022 at 12:49pm
| Where we may struggle is if they bring North onto first phase ball from a lineout as in running off 10 on an angle. |
Posted By: ladram
Date Posted: 16 September 2022 at 12:58pm
Thanks what size squad have they got ?
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Posted By: Rob Hunt
Date Posted: 16 September 2022 at 12:58pm
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Any news on WillGriff John? Not in the match squad or listed as unavailable.
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Posted By: GPR - Rochester
Date Posted: 16 September 2022 at 1:02pm
| It appears that guys like WGJ, Morgan Jones & Rhys Patchell just aren't selected. Rawlins still out leads me to think he will follow Cubby into retirement. |
Posted By: GPR - Rochester
Date Posted: 16 September 2022 at 1:06pm
Yet you predict an Ospreys win Why. You can change your predictions of course up until kick off. Perhaps with both of us taking the Ospreys we can both take pleasure in eating humble pie on Sunday.
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Posted By: diego6754
Date Posted: 16 September 2022 at 1:07pm
News on WGJ is....turns out he's not very good! Other than that, I think that is a big, tasty mobile pack, front row should scrummage well, Wyn, Josh and Daf off the bench....I'm happy. Foxy at 13 worries me. Should be a good game though. Home advantage, us by one score.
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Posted By: Why
Date Posted: 16 September 2022 at 1:10pm
With lashings of gravy ------------- She asks why i still can't answer. I guess its in the blood. |
Posted By: Fscarlet
Date Posted: 16 September 2022 at 1:10pm
| TBH I am not surprised WGJ isn't selected, he has been a bit of a disappointment since he signed. Have seen nothing of his scrummaging power whereas the likes of Sebastian & O'Connor have excelled. |
Posted By: Eastern outpost
Date Posted: 16 September 2022 at 1:30pm
WGJ might be having a small op, unless I dreamt it. The missing names on the match day and injured lists may suffer from no checking to make sure no one’s been forgotten. No surprise in a stretched business. ------------- In a world where you can be anything – Be Kind. |
Posted By: supertaf
Date Posted: 16 September 2022 at 1:31pm
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Even though it seems Newcastle trump us for unavailables, I would still wager we are top 3 in europe for consistent levels of unavailability. Going into a fresh season with 14 unavailable is disappointing especially when we have had the longest summer break ever. ------------- Scarlets - Suppliers of fine rugby since 1872 |
Posted By: Eastern outpost
Date Posted: 16 September 2022 at 1:40pm
------------- In a world where you can be anything – Be Kind. |
Posted By: supertaf
Date Posted: 16 September 2022 at 1:55pm
It may be annecdotal but i would be astonished if any professional side has the consistent level of injury to senior players that we have - year on year ------------- Scarlets - Suppliers of fine rugby since 1872 |
Posted By: scarletabroad
Date Posted: 16 September 2022 at 1:56pm
| That is a destructive back 5 I would say the strongest and best ball carrying back 5 we’ve fielded in a long time |
Posted By: Lincscarlet
Date Posted: 16 September 2022 at 2:14pm
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I think the starting 15 has a nice balance to it, possibly the most powerful Scarlets pack I've seen in years with 6 genuine ball carriers, 2 powerful props and a pair of livewire halfbacks to make best use of that behind them, and an exciting back 3- I don't rate Giles or North as that great defensively so hopefully there's joy to be had out wide. I'm also in the minority here in thinking Jon Davies is a good selection, he knows he needs to play well to get to the world cup and he's a big game player- I think he'll turn it up to 11 for this one. Dan Jones is a very different style to Costelow and I like having that plan B on the bench too.
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Posted By: reesytheexile
Date Posted: 16 September 2022 at 2:17pm
| The Ospreys pack options are formidable. We need to match them and obtain some decent ball. I will take M.M’s “ one point win “ here. Let’s hope it’s a great advert for rugby and we sneak it . 🙏 |
Posted By: RR1972
Date Posted: 16 September 2022 at 2:23pm
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Posted By: Why
Date Posted: 16 September 2022 at 2:30pm
Formidable but front five very immobile apart from Smith we must run them around park. Keep it away from tight totally negates Beards, Baldwin, AWJ and Francis game. Granted their back row lively but our second rows along with front row are very good around park. ------------- She asks why i still can't answer. I guess its in the blood. |
Posted By: KID A
Date Posted: 16 September 2022 at 2:53pm
Where do I send the invoice? 
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Posted By: Maple
Date Posted: 16 September 2022 at 3:30pm
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Very surprised Patch is nowhere to be seen. ------------- Give Blood, Play Rugby |
Posted By: 157cb
Date Posted: 16 September 2022 at 3:38pm
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Hold the set piece, lineout we have Fifeta reported to be one of the best lineout sealers in World Rugby, on opposition ball... Shore the defence up and we have carriers and pace a plenty.
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Posted By: Eastern outpost
Date Posted: 16 September 2022 at 4:02pm
------------- In a world where you can be anything – Be Kind. |
Posted By: Dic Penderyn
Date Posted: 16 September 2022 at 4:06pm
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I think our scrummage should go well,and the lineout could be superior.Morgan peerless at the break-down,and a possibility that Tipuric could feed off him there(depending on what kind of player he is now). Nice to see Jonny Williams at 12-his 40 mins there against Connacht at home season before last was best I'be seen from an inside centre for many years-be great if he replicates that.It appears that a shoe -horn the size of a mammoth's tusk would be required to prise Gatsby out of the starting line up,but I fear that Hawkins and others might find a gap without one. Looking forward,Scarlets to win this. |
Posted By: ladram
Date Posted: 16 September 2022 at 4:41pm
That could be because we have a record of taking punts on players with a bad injury record they should rename the parc Lourdes
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Posted By: Coch
Date Posted: 16 September 2022 at 5:01pm
| Glad that Cawdor gets to start. Suprised that Wyn doesn't, surely he must be up to speed by now. Really looking forward. Is it me or is time draging before tomorrow?! |
Posted By: Brainfart
Date Posted: 16 September 2022 at 5:26pm
| A very mobile looking pack. Keep that ball alive and Jac Morgan won't have many opportunities to jackle. It'll be a frustrating day for him. |
Posted By: EJPT
Date Posted: 16 September 2022 at 5:31pm
| Second row battle will be interesting. Welsh national team vs two very good overseas players. Our forwards look more physical, but their backs look very threatening. |
Posted By: M.M.
Date Posted: 16 September 2022 at 6:14pm
Well, it'll be a tough order tomorrow. We're up against a team who smashed us in that 2nd half up in Swansea, a team who look very strong on paper. Let's beat them. |
Posted By: SA14
Date Posted: 16 September 2022 at 6:55pm
| Looks as if it’s gonna be a tough game. Two near full strength teams. There’s always the Queen to blame if we lose. |
Posted By: hoppy
Date Posted: 16 September 2022 at 6:58pm
| Should be a cracking game tomorrow hope there is a decent crowd there to watch it |
Posted By: reesytheexile
Date Posted: 16 September 2022 at 8:16pm
| Rumours of being asked to sing God save the King tomorrow still rumble! 🤔 |
Posted By: Dic Penderyn
Date Posted: 16 September 2022 at 8:27pm
That would be ironic,given that the banner of Owain Glyndwr flies proudly outside the stadium...... |
Posted By: ladram
Date Posted: 16 September 2022 at 10:46pm
That would be interesting
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Posted By: Cofi
Date Posted: 16 September 2022 at 10:49pm
Surely they would't dare!
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Posted By: Rob Hunt
Date Posted: 16 September 2022 at 10:57pm
| Scarlets website mentions a minute’s silence to mark the death of our colonial ruler, followed by a minute’s applause to mark the deaths of Phil Bennett, Ken Jones and Eddie Butler. |
Posted By: scarletpimp
Date Posted: 16 September 2022 at 11:20pm
I seem to be "following Ressy around", after his Eddie Butler tribute, in a different part of this forum, and my following comment I must agree with him again regarding the O's pack. It's obvious they will try to squeeze us in the tight and attempt to enforce errors and penalties. Once it gets into the ref's head, its usually "curtains", and the trend is set. Anscombe will kick the points or put them in dangerous attacking positions. We of course can negate this by holding our own in the set piece, but it will be a physical battle, I am sure. Someone else on here, has mentioned the Ospreys ploy of bringing North off his wing in to the 10 channel. They have employed this against us before, and its effective. On the other side of the coin, if Tips and Morgan don't rule the contact area, we can play a more fluid game, which is where they (the O's) may struggle. It's the first game of the season, so all the above is "if's and buts" ATM, we will just have to see how it goes, and hopefully, we will do well! Fingers crossed! ------------- I stood yer on tanner bank |
Posted By: Wasp
Date Posted: 17 September 2022 at 9:34am
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I still think we either played the Dragons behind closed doors, or did some fairly tough alternative last weekend. Looking at certain players talk about "recovery" earlier this week on their socials. I think we might edge it, TBH. A lot depends AWJ and Tips. Will either of them be at the top of their game?
------------- We're still still here, but I wish we were in an Anglo-Welsh |
Posted By: Dic Penderyn
Date Posted: 17 September 2022 at 9:47am
Tipuric needs to be seen,but Legend Wyn Comb would need a lift on the Tardis to get back to the top of his game. |
Posted By: RR1972
Date Posted: 17 September 2022 at 10:03am
Wyn comb over . Classic . Lovely day for game of rugby this could be a really good game. Two good sides could go either way
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Posted By: Dai Guevara
Date Posted: 17 September 2022 at 10:14am
| For this game I would have preferred to see Fifita at 6. He and Kalamafoni carrying together would have given the Ospreys lighter, smaller and more mobile back row a hard time defensively and maybe even reduced their ability to swarm around the breakdown and turnover our ball. |
Posted By: Dic Penderyn
Date Posted: 17 September 2022 at 10:16am
This is true-our forwards are good ball players,all can pass.
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Posted By: Peter
Date Posted: 17 September 2022 at 1:54pm
| Good luck for today Scarlets |
Posted By: Eastern outpost
Date Posted: 17 September 2022 at 2:47pm
------------- In a world where you can be anything – Be Kind. |
Posted By: Brainfart
Date Posted: 17 September 2022 at 2:48pm
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This is true-our forwards are good ball players,all can pass. [/QUOTE]
Not long to see how it pans out now. Meanwhile, Leinster very very nearly blew it out in Italy. 2 losing bonus points for Zebre.
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Posted By: Eastern outpost
Date Posted: 17 September 2022 at 4:30pm
------------- In a world where you can be anything – Be Kind. |
Posted By: Mr Ian
Date Posted: 17 September 2022 at 4:54pm
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Ready for the first of the season...come on Scarlets!! |
Posted By: Brainfart
Date Posted: 17 September 2022 at 5:02pm
| C'mon boys. Good feel here today. Even the pigeons are smiling. |
Posted By: Mr Ian
Date Posted: 17 September 2022 at 5:23pm
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ryan throws a problem some days... |
Posted By: Peter
Date Posted: 17 September 2022 at 5:26pm
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Posted By: scarletsbeno1
Date Posted: 17 September 2022 at 5:27pm
| Scrum and lineout not looking good. |
Posted By: Grammar School Boy
Date Posted: 17 September 2022 at 5:27pm
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Well taken try from the Ospreys 0-7
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Posted By: EJPT
Date Posted: 17 September 2022 at 5:28pm
| Well dire start so far |
Posted By: scarletsbeno1
Date Posted: 17 September 2022 at 5:29pm
| Couldn’t be a worse start. Kick the ball Jonny 😑 |
Posted By: Grammar School Boy
Date Posted: 17 September 2022 at 5:29pm
| 0-10, Ospreys looking sharper |
Posted By: Peter
Date Posted: 17 September 2022 at 5:29pm
| Comon guys,you can do it,focus |
Posted By: Mr Ian
Date Posted: 17 September 2022 at 5:34pm
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Kalamafoni our most influential player on the pitch |
Posted By: Scrletsfan32x
Date Posted: 17 September 2022 at 5:36pm
| Gareth Davies and Elias have had a stinker so far. |
Posted By: Grammar School Boy
Date Posted: 17 September 2022 at 5:37pm
| Ospreys better in a poor game |
Posted By: scarletsbeno1
Date Posted: 17 September 2022 at 5:37pm
| Again Mcnicholl kick the ball |
Posted By: Milli
Date Posted: 17 September 2022 at 5:37pm
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Scarlets pack not handling the Sprays very well, plus our tackling is optional, again |
Posted By: London Scarlet
Date Posted: 17 September 2022 at 5:38pm
| Remember we are short on game time. Ospreys played 3 friendliesI believe. |
Posted By: Tony Clifton
Date Posted: 17 September 2022 at 5:39pm
| Lezana off, Macleod on. |
Posted By: scarletsbeno1
Date Posted: 17 September 2022 at 5:45pm
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Ospreys laying in our rucks every single time, without being penalised. |
Posted By: Mr Ian
Date Posted: 17 September 2022 at 5:45pm
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chaotic match and ref lost his meter, at breakdown happens everything....we are kicking decent or they catching bad...come on boys |
Posted By: Milli
Date Posted: 17 September 2022 at 5:46pm
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Rugby is finished, pathetic penalty |
Posted By: scarletsbeno1
Date Posted: 17 September 2022 at 5:50pm
Well that’s the clubs fault we should’ve organised more. |
Posted By: EJPT
Date Posted: 17 September 2022 at 5:51pm
This was entirely the choice of Scarlets upper management. And it is showing.
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Posted By: Brainfart
Date Posted: 17 September 2022 at 5:53pm
| Mcnichol making some poor decisions. And the try leading back to a poor line out. 3 out of 4 lost. Won our first scrum nice n quick n clean only for ball to be turned over in open play. Ospreys looking far far sharper. Costellow deserved the yellow you can't do that. Foxy offering little and North owned him, ripping ball. Boys need to battle hard now and if they can deny Ospreys points during this 10 min period, leading into half time then I think it's still all to play for in second half. But can't see that happening tbh. |
Posted By: London Scarlet
Date Posted: 17 September 2022 at 5:53pm
| How was that ball not out of the ruck?? Bemusing penalty |
Posted By: Brainfart
Date Posted: 17 September 2022 at 5:55pm
| Another yellow coming and a penalty try. |
Posted By: Brainfart
Date Posted: 17 September 2022 at 5:57pm
It was out. But are we really going there before even the first half has finished? Lol. Anyway they've done well there. Can go into half time now without the average 7 points lost during a yellow card period.
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Posted By: Brainfart
Date Posted: 17 September 2022 at 6:01pm
| Costellow back on. Huge effort to not leak any points in that 10 mins. |
Posted By: Mr Ian
Date Posted: 17 September 2022 at 6:01pm
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we have to be ready to fight at every single ruck, only in this way we can have some hope |
Posted By: Brainfart
Date Posted: 17 September 2022 at 6:03pm
| Far too slow at the breakdown. |
Posted By: Scrletsfan32x
Date Posted: 17 September 2022 at 6:03pm
| We have to get Cawdor off the pitch immediately, he’s beyond terrible. |
Posted By: Brainfart
Date Posted: 17 September 2022 at 6:04pm
| Taken out in the air. |
Posted By: Brainfart
Date Posted: 17 September 2022 at 6:05pm
| Cawdor expects the ball in his hands without any thinking or work. Hardy to start second half. |
Posted By: Brainfart
Date Posted: 17 September 2022 at 6:08pm
| We have 4 to 8 that are capable of running riot. But they have to be far quicker at the breakdown for that to happen. Meanwhile a clear penalty Tipuric on Mchnicol, yellow card, surely? |
Posted By: scarletsbeno1
Date Posted: 17 September 2022 at 6:08pm
| Jac Morgan being very cute at the breakdown. |
Posted By: Grammar School Boy
Date Posted: 17 September 2022 at 6:09pm
| That has to be yellow at least, McNichol took 2 steps after the kick |
Posted By: Grammar School Boy
Date Posted: 17 September 2022 at 6:10pm
| Not sure why we are trying to play the Ospreys at their own game at which they are much better |
Posted By: SA14
Date Posted: 17 September 2022 at 6:10pm
| What’s the saying? Don’t look like scoring. Nevermind, as well as the ref there’s the called of game and lack of game time shiite excuse to use if we lose. |
Posted By: Milli
Date Posted: 17 September 2022 at 6:12pm
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Scoreline flatters us. What our gameplay is, is anyones guess. First half we have been dire |
Posted By: Brainfart
Date Posted: 17 September 2022 at 6:13pm
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6 v 13 HT. Get Hardy on from the start of the 2nd half. |
Posted By: Mr Ian
Date Posted: 17 September 2022 at 6:13pm
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terrible start but in last minutes we seemed improved...come on boys, need a cinical second half.. |
Posted By: Cofi
Date Posted: 17 September 2022 at 6:14pm
| That scoreline could be worse, a lot lot worse... |
Posted By: EJPT
Date Posted: 17 September 2022 at 6:15pm
We did a ‘New Zealand’ when they were attacking fortunate not to concede or have another yellow. Well count that off against their yellow that should’ve been with that late reckless chargedown.
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Posted By: Grammar School Boy
Date Posted: 17 September 2022 at 6:15pm
| Lucky to not to get a second yellow from the 3 consecutive pens on our 5m line |