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Topic: Potential Scarlets Squad for South Africa
Posted By: GPR - Rochester
Subject: Potential Scarlets Squad for South Africa
Date Posted: 16 November 2022 at 9:20am
Back 3 : Johnny Mac, Rogers, Conbeer, Baldwin, Steff Evans.
Centres : Foxy, Scott, Eddie
10's Patchell, Dan
9's : Cawdor, Archie

Props : Steffan, Kemsley, Sam O'Connor, Harri O'Connor, Javan, WGJ.
Hookers : Daf, Shaun, Taylor
Rows : Louisi, Jac Price, Tom Price, Morgan Jones
Back Row : Fifita, Aaron, Blade, Lezana, Shenton, Carwyn, Sione. 

We are pretty depleted in the backs. I guess there is scope for guys like Blacker, Sam, Hardy, & Leigh to get to South Africa for the 2nd game if needed. 



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Posted By: Wil Chips
Date Posted: 16 November 2022 at 9:53am
Think Jonny Williams may be available.

Dan Davis, Phil Price, Ioan Nicholas, Helps are available too I think. Alex Jeffries maybe.

Feels to me we are a bit light on depth at 9/10. Need to take 3 SH's for sure.


Posted By: GPR - Rochester
Date Posted: 16 November 2022 at 10:01am
Originally posted by Wil Chips Wil Chips wrote:

Think Jonny Williams may be available.

Dan Davis, Phil Price, Ioan Nicholas, Helps are available too I think. Alex Jeffries maybe.

Feels to me we are a bit light on depth at 9/10. Need to take 3 SH's for sure.

Jonny will help for sure. Yes normally you think you'd have 3 10's & 3 9's which is why I thought maybe re-inforcements if needed after first game. Otherwise it would probably be Harri Williams & Josh Phillips. 


Posted By: RR1972
Date Posted: 16 November 2022 at 10:01am
What ever happens it won’t be as bad that trip last winter!


Posted By: GPR - Rochester
Date Posted: 16 November 2022 at 10:07am
Originally posted by RR1972 RR1972 wrote:

What ever happens it won’t be as bad that trip last winter!

Think the Scarlets would do well to heed Wil's warnings about the increase in Covid both in East Africa & South Africa. Some cast iron assurances need to be sought if not already secured. 


Posted By: Wil Chips
Date Posted: 16 November 2022 at 10:11am
Pretty sure the rules were all boxed off pre season, but of course it's worth checking in again. I did let the club know separately.

Nothing to suggest anything will change but these guys memories of Covid/South Africa/15 nights in a motel in Northern Ireland must still be pretty fresh!


Posted By: GPR - Rochester
Date Posted: 16 November 2022 at 10:16am
Originally posted by Wil Chips Wil Chips wrote:

Pretty sure the rules were all boxed off pre season, but of course it's worth checking in again. I did let the club know separately.

Nothing to suggest anything will change but these guys memories of Covid/South Africa/15 nights in a motel in Northern Ireland must still be pretty fresh!

Pretty fresh & raw I would suggest. Any vague assurances & I would not hesitate to concede the games. We can't allow these lads to go through that again. Our URC season is as good as over as far as qualification goes - any nonsense again in South Africa would put paid to any chance we had in Europe however slim. 


Posted By: RR1972
Date Posted: 16 November 2022 at 11:22am
Originally posted by Wil Chips Wil Chips wrote:

Pretty sure the rules were all boxed off pre season, but of course it's worth checking in again. I did let the club know separately.

Nothing to suggest anything will change but these guys memories of Covid/South Africa/15 nights in a motel in Northern Ireland must still be pretty fresh!
 that really was a disaster of a tour wasn’t it? The players wouldn’t be human if they didn’t have misgivings about going back


Posted By: 157cb
Date Posted: 16 November 2022 at 11:45am

  Yes but they returned in March. 


Posted By: Wil Chips
Date Posted: 16 November 2022 at 11:54am
Originally posted by 157cb 157cb wrote:



  Yes but they returned in March. 


Yes, but to more or less empty stadiums and still tough restrictions there at the time.

You don't need even need to be vaccinated to get in these days.


Posted By: 157cb
Date Posted: 16 November 2022 at 12:40pm

   100% agree going to be tough for the bois. Sorry Wil. I had not read your posts regarding the rises of Covid in Africa 


Posted By: Wil Chips
Date Posted: 16 November 2022 at 12:48pm
Originally posted by 157cb 157cb wrote:



   100% agree going to be tough for the bois. Sorry Wil. I had not read your posts regarding the rises of Covid in Africa 



No worries fella.

I've decided to not go...gutted.


Posted By: GPR - Rochester
Date Posted: 16 November 2022 at 12:50pm
Originally posted by Wil Chips Wil Chips wrote:

Originally posted by 157cb 157cb wrote:



   100% agree going to be tough for the bois. Sorry Wil. I had not read your posts regarding the rises of Covid in Africa 



No worries fella.

I've decided to not go...gutted.

Sorry to hear that Wil. Bet you could almost taste the pint of Castle at the waterfront, Capetown. Confused


Posted By: Why
Date Posted: 16 November 2022 at 1:36pm
Originally posted by GPR - Rochester GPR - Rochester wrote:

Back 3 : Johnny Mac, Rogers, Conbeer, Baldwin, Steff Evans.
Centres : Foxy, Scott, Eddie
10's Patchell, Dan
9's : Cawdor, Archie

Props : Steffan, Kemsley, Sam O'Connor, Harri O'Connor, Javan, WGJ.
Hookers : Daf, Shaun, Taylor
Rows : Louisi, Jac Price, Tom Price, Morgan Jones
Back Row : Fifita, Aaron, Blade, Lezana, Shenton, Carwyn, Sione. 

We are pretty depleted in the backs. I guess there is scope for guys like Blacker, Sam, Hardy, & Leigh to get to South Africa for the 2nd game if needed. 
That’s a squad that’s not filling me with confidence I must be honest 


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Posted By: Wil Chips
Date Posted: 16 November 2022 at 2:01pm
Originally posted by GPR - Rochester GPR - Rochester wrote:

Originally posted by Wil Chips Wil Chips wrote:

Originally posted by 157cb 157cb wrote:



   100% agree going to be tough for the bois. Sorry Wil. I had not read your posts regarding the rises of Covid in Africa 



No worries fella.

I've decided to not go...gutted.


Sorry to hear that Wil. Bet you could almost taste the pint of Castle at the waterfront, Capetown. Confused


I had it mapped out mate. Air Bnb jut back from the V&A for 3 nights, tickets for the game in the bag...Wales v Australia at the Ferryman's on Saturday afternoon....then make a judgement whether people could tell I was Welsh before the England South Africa game later...:)


Posted By: GPR - Rochester
Date Posted: 17 November 2022 at 7:03am
Originally posted by Wil Chips Wil Chips wrote:

Originally posted by GPR - Rochester GPR - Rochester wrote:

Originally posted by Wil Chips Wil Chips wrote:

Originally posted by 157cb 157cb wrote:



   100% agree going to be tough for the bois. Sorry Wil. I had not read your posts regarding the rises of Covid in Africa 



No worries fella.

I've decided to not go...gutted.


Sorry to hear that Wil. Bet you could almost taste the pint of Castle at the waterfront, Capetown. Confused


I had it mapped out mate. Air Bnb jut back from the V&A for 3 nights, tickets for the game in the bag...Wales v Australia at the Ferryman's on Saturday afternoon....then make a judgement whether people could tell I was Welsh before the England South Africa game later...:)

A perfect day by the sound of it Wil. I wouldn't have worried about the Welshness thing - having seen you jumping about when Wales scored against the Aussies with a few tinnnies on board you would have become an honorary Bokker.


Posted By: PE SA
Date Posted: 17 November 2022 at 12:47pm
I didn't think we had Lousi or Fifita for the SA trip ?


Posted By: Wil Chips
Date Posted: 18 November 2022 at 5:20pm
Originally posted by GPR - Rochester GPR - Rochester wrote:

Back 3 : Johnny Mac, Rogers, Conbeer, Baldwin, Steff Evans.
Centres : Foxy, Scott, Eddie
10's Patchell, Dan
9's : Cawdor, Archie

Props : Steffan, Kemsley, Sam O'Connor, Harri O'Connor, Javan, WGJ.
Hookers : Daf, Shaun, Taylor
Rows : Louisi, Jac Price, Tom Price, Morgan Jones
Back Row : Fifita, Aaron, Blade, Lezana, Shenton, Carwyn, Sione. 

We are pretty depleted in the backs. I guess there is scope for guys like Blacker, Sam, Hardy, & Leigh to get to South Africa for the 2nd game if needed. 



Good shot at it...actual squad just out..30 going --18 forwards and 12 backs...
From the backs it's Ioan and not Eddie...all the others as above..

From the forwards Phil Price for Sam O'Connor, Jac Price is out, and we didn't take Shenton, Morgan , but did include Dan Davis.



Someone better than me can post the squad!

With 9 days between the games we cna fly out players if anyone goes down.


Posted By: Wasp
Date Posted: 18 November 2022 at 6:00pm

TRAVELLING SQUAD 

(forwards)

Steff Thomas, Kemsley Mathias, Phil Price, Daf Hughes, Taylor Davies, Shaun Evans, Harri O’Connor, Javan Sebastian, WillGriff John, Sam Lousi, Tom Price, Vaea Fifita, Blade Thomson, Aaron Shingler, Tomás Lezana, Dan Davis, Sione Kalamafoni, Carwyn Tuipulotu.

(backs) Johnny McNicholl, Tom Rogers, Ryan Conbeer, Ioan Nicholas. Steff Evans. Corey Baldwin, Jonathan Davies, Scott Williams, Dan Jones, Rhys Patchell. Gareth Davies, Archie Hughes.



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Posted By: Wasp
Date Posted: 18 November 2022 at 6:04pm
We can pull a decent side out of that squad.
I just hope we can perform like a team that wants to win


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We're still still here, but I wish we were in an Anglo-Welsh


Posted By: Dai Guevara
Date Posted: 18 November 2022 at 7:04pm
Can Ioan Nicholas also play 9 or 10 because there is no room for any injury to those travelling?


Posted By: Wil Chips
Date Posted: 19 November 2022 at 4:49am
Originally posted by Wasp Wasp wrote:

We can pull a decent side out of that squad.
I just hope we can perform like a team that wants to win


That’s it.


Posted By: Wil Chips
Date Posted: 19 November 2022 at 6:54am
Originally posted by Dai Guevara Dai Guevara wrote:

Can Ioan Nicholas also play 9 or 10 because there is no room for any injury to those travelling?



I’m guessing the Costelow could be released by Wales to make the 2nd game, Blacker too.
Just guessing mind.


Posted By: GPR - Rochester
Date Posted: 19 November 2022 at 7:38am
All our Internationals will be back at PYS on 28th November. Anyone needed for the Lions game on 4th December can travel that week I guess. 


Posted By: GPR - Rochester
Date Posted: 19 November 2022 at 8:44am
Originally posted by Wil Chips Wil Chips wrote:

Originally posted by GPR - Rochester GPR - Rochester wrote:

Back 3 : Johnny Mac, Rogers, Conbeer, Baldwin, Steff Evans.
Centres : Foxy, Scott, Eddie
10's Patchell, Dan
9's : Cawdor, Archie

Props : Steffan, Kemsley, Sam O'Connor, Harri O'Connor, Javan, WGJ.
Hookers : Daf, Shaun, Taylor
Rows : Louisi, Jac Price, Tom Price, Morgan Jones
Back Row : Fifita, Aaron, Blade, Lezana, Shenton, Carwyn, Sione. 

We are pretty depleted in the backs. I guess there is scope for guys like Blacker, Sam, Hardy, & Leigh to get to South Africa for the 2nd game if needed. 



Good shot at it...actual squad just out..30 going --18 forwards and 12 backs...
From the backs it's Ioan and not Eddie...all the others as above..

From the forwards Phil Price for Sam O'Connor, Jac Price is out, and we didn't take Shenton, Morgan , but did include Dan Davis.



Someone better than me can post the squad!

With 9 days between the games we cna fly out players if anyone goes down.

We are pretty bare bones at 2nd row with only Sam & Tom for me genuine 2nd rows. Of course we have Fifita, Blade & Aaron who can do a job if needed. As you pointed out we are risking it at 9/10 so hopefully no knocks in training this coming week. 


Posted By: Dai Guevara
Date Posted: 19 November 2022 at 3:35pm
I take it that Jac Price is injured but is Morgan Jones also injured? If not,and Peel prefers Tom Price, then along with picking Dan Jones in front of Patchell, it's beginning to look as if Peel is allowing personal clashes to come in front of the performance of the Scarlets.


Posted By: Eastern outpost
Date Posted: 19 November 2022 at 3:39pm
You'd imagine Dane Blacker will be itching to get pitch time and prove a few things.

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Posted By: Mugwuffin
Date Posted: 19 November 2022 at 3:55pm
Originally posted by Dai Guevara Dai Guevara wrote:

I take it that Jac Price is injured but is Morgan Jones also injured? If not,and Peel prefers Tom Price, then along with picking Dan Jones in front of Patchell, it's beginning to look as if Peel is allowing personal clashes to come in front of the performance of the Scarlets.
Patchell and Morgan Jones haven’t really impressed in the minutes they’ve had so I wouldn’t jump to that conclusion. 




Posted By: Wil Chips
Date Posted: 19 November 2022 at 5:08pm
Originally posted by Mugwuffin Mugwuffin wrote:

Originally posted by Dai Guevara Dai Guevara wrote:

I take it that Jac Price is injured but is Morgan Jones also injured? If not,and Peel prefers Tom Price, then along with picking Dan Jones in front of Patchell, it's beginning to look as if Peel is allowing personal clashes to come in front of the performance of the Scarlets.

Patchell and Morgan Jones haven’t really impressed in the minutes they’ve had so I wouldn’t jump to that conclusion. 




I think I'd agree. Morgan is a specimen, but has yet to put in a notable shift/make a big impact in the last season or two.

He should have had the shirt before either Price, but Jac has just applied himself more, and Tom is ok ( Jac is out for a few weeks ). Just my opinion.

He has so much promise, and only 23 means he has time to break through.




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