I totally  agree with that GPR. Strange selections...Lewis /Francis, & Cuthbert/Adams.

Also not completely  happy with make up of back row. Morgan deserves  the 7 jersey,is playing well.Tipuric at 6 however? 

He has been a wonderful  player and a joy to watch, but reckon still far from his best, and injury and recovery from that could be the reason. Also as a capt, he needs to be more assertive, and needs to be in the ref's ear more regularly. 

Overall,  the team has a better look though  with AwJ, Falateau & Anscombe returning.

Aussies like us not in a good place, so game could  go either way.

The game summed up Pivac's tenure;

Moments of competence and promise, then when coaching and adjustments were needed, it all went downhill fast.

From taking off Biggar in 2021 in Paris, to today, his substitution patterns were terrible.

The WRU is the bigger long term problem, however.

Wales were playing well and in total control. 

Pivac has made mistakes and if there’s a quality replacement he probably should go, but he was bloody unlucky today.  

The first hour or so was very nostalgic when we displayed flair, confidence, scored tries and built the foundations for Jac Morgan to be Seren y Gem. It’s been a long wait for such a display.

Then it was the same old same old and Tripuric’s moment of madness is an example of a streak that he has. It takes away a lot of his good points. Had he n’ont tripped him, the cover would’ve stopped him and we’d have been playing with another player on the pitch for those 10 plus minutes.

That seems a long time ago..

However, why was AWJ taken of 6 minutes later? he was the natural leader left on the pitch

Fiji will have better prep than for the autumn in the WC, I can't see Wales getting out of the group.

Sounds daft but Australia felt like favourites when they were 16 points down.

However, the performances on the field pale into insignificance when compared to the state of the game in general and the running of it by the WRU.

PIVACs appointment was a punt (done on the cheap), how the WRU could state that they searched the world to find the best man and then go 50 miles down the road (to get Pivac) was just embarrassing.

The lack of a funding deal for the regions, the purchasing of a hotel and the joke that’s the roof walk, just shows the WRU for what they are - a bunch of amateurs in charge of a multi million pound organisation, hamstrung by grass roots sides.

We all know what their one solution will be - cut down the number of regions to two.  That would just stifle any opportunity for players to break through into the national team on a regular basis, as you would only have a limited number of spaces for players in any given position.

What is needed is wholesale changes at the top of the game, the appointment of people with either a business or a professional playing background (or both if possible), the removal of the power of grass roots sides, who often just vote down changes just to frustrate the union, the proper funding of the regions or the regions being given more autonomy - with them funding their own squads but being paid the going rate for players being released to the national squad.

1) Scarlets all season

2) Wales rugby in 2022(particularly Georgia & Italy

3) Wales football in world cup

4) Icing on the cake today, losing today after a commanding lead

Almost given up the will to be a sportsfan 

Cannot believe Wales lost today to an Aussie side so under strength.

If Wales don't get rid of Pivac now, and give a replacement, at least a little time to work with the squad, we won't get out of the pool in the world cup for sure.

Whoever the coach is, some of the basic lack of a skillset some of the players possess, is going to cause problems. However surely a better team of professionals cannot do a worse job than we see ATM

Wales started really well and were clearly on top.

Pivac then committed "Hari- Kari", by making ritual changes, which is what rugby now seems to be about.

The quicker this is stopped the better, for safety of players, as much as anything. An IRB ruling to reintroduce changes for injury only

Anscombe was playing well, controlling the game. On comes Priestland, and throws a "don't look pass", leading to a stupid trip from Tipruric & subsequent yellow card. GAME TURNS.

Ridiculous.

To top this Wales has ample opportunities to to close the game but didn't take them.

Poor leadership from Tipuric and lack of basic skills in the Red Zone..just like Scarlets.

It just isn't good enough from alleged top pro sportsmen.

As well discussed before on the forum, changing the coach, may have some short-term success, but the problem, as we all know, runs a lot deeper.

WRU now MUST take some action.

That reviews remit firstly should be looking at.... 

1) the viability of the regions. Their success (or lack of|) organisation including academies. The funding formula for the regions, for each region should surely be examined, and to maintain the 4 regions, whether this should be increased.

If the funding cannot be maintained and increased, what are the options?

2) The viability of the top tier of the game itself, under the regions. The Premiership, with the view to examine the reduction in the number of teams within this structure, to concentrate the best players within a more limited number of clubs, and therefore enhance a better level of competition.

3) The review would also need to look further down the chain at the community game in Wales and discuss with clubs how they can be helped and adequately supported by the union, which would also mean support for junior rugby 

4)There should be an examination of how the game is administered in Wales in schools and colleges, and therefore, should work closely with the Welsh government, and local Authorities

5) To review the continued to support of women's rugby in Wales, making it gender inclusive at all levels

6) Finally, and most important, is a review of the WRU itself and its archaic structure.

To implement the above measures, (and in my view, there needs to be radical changes) the whole voting and democratic structure needs to change.

Small clubs, through whatever self-interest motivates them, should NOT be able to block major changes, which the whole of the game in Wales.

There has been clear evidence of this at recent meetings, were WRU could not make the changes they wanted. 

A business the size of WRU, needs a model that continues to operate smoothly and reflects the demands of the 21st century, not the Victorian era.

Do I think this will happen; probably not, and therefore we go on with a mediocre, failing game, supported by shrinking grassroots. 

It's incredibly sad and it hurts

One thing I will say about scarlet fever forum, whatever disagreements there are on here, (naturally as it's a forum), the very fact there are so many Scarlets fans on here who, like me, love the game of rugby in Wales, speaks volumes. 

The fact is, if it didn't mean anything to them, they wouldn't be wasting their time on here.

Silence would be worrying.

On a dismal week for Welsh sport, as it has been, that's my true crumb of comfort

 

Priestland didn't come on as a result of Pivac not knowing what he's doing. It was more to do with I don't think Anscombe can play rugby with one arm. 

Why wasn't Costellow brought on?

When we scored, there was no change of expression.

Has anyone taken another look at the Elias yellow? The TMO was asked whether his feet were in play when the maul came down. We then saw a replay which showed his feet behind the try line, so out of play. The TMO then said the replay clearly shows his feet were in play. Confusing?

The best chef in the world can produce a banquet when you only have mouldy bread and out of date crisps in the cupboard 

In all fairness, I don't think anyone could have imagined us blowing such a big lead no matter what the subs were. 

The best players today were AWJ, Jac and Hawkins so what is your point?

Giving away needless yellows is the MO for wales. I hate to go backwards, because for all his success gats had a lot of downsides, but he’d at least organise a team and give it a game plan to follow in the few months he has until the World Cup. I don’t see any other coaches as options for it tbh but pivac can’t stay 

Why do you say he isn’t fully fit? He’s played every match this autumn. 

I thought Tipuric played quite well until that stupid trip. 

He probably thought that Priestland was the safe option to come on and close out the game. Costelow came on last weekend when the scores were close and it didn’t turn out well. 

Pivac was desperate for a win and went for the experienced over the youthful option.

Ken Owens still retains the fire and ability to cut it at this level - well done Ken. Tschiunza & Jenkins have moved ahead of Carter for me. Jac Morgan star of the series in my book. Hawkins I thought had a very tidy debut & showed more than enough to be in serious contention for the 6 nations. Rio Dyer equally does not look out of place. Giving Adams & LRZ time at 15, despite protestations by many, was the right call & will give us some much needed options going forward. 

Time & injury have I am afraid caught up with Halfpenny & Cuthbert & they should be eased out of future squads with many thanks for their service. Equally Tipuric's position should not be ring fenced - Reffell, Morgan & McLoud will push him very hard. I would love to see a starting back row in the first 6 nations game of 6. Tschiunza, 7. Morgan 8. Faletau with McLoud on the bench unless Tipuric gets back to his brilliant best.

Judging from the comments being made by Warburton & Jamie Roberts, boys who lets face it have direct contact with many squad members, it seems pretty clear that the players have no confidence in the coaching team or parts of it. Gatland is trying to be very diplomatic but I think a 9/10 month stint as a saviour to his beloved Welsh rugby would seriously appeal to both his ego & pocket. 

I think its more to do with availability. His time with the Lions messed up his coaching role and ended with a  move upstairs which you could read as being a compromise. He is on record as stating that he would love a chance to coach at International level again. Most coaches will be contracted to season ends so tempting Gatland would look, on the face of it, one of the easier options. 

I would not suggest that Gatland would suddenly turn round our fortunes but he would bring that level of hard nosed expectation to his selections and preparations. He may, of course, be eyeing up a different option namely a long term contract with England running from 01/12/2022 to the end of the 2027 World Cup. Surely fast Eddie must be feeling as much heat as Pivac today after that pretty abject performance from England. Jones is reportedly on £800K p.a. - perfect top up to Gatland's pension fund as he moves through his sixties. 

The chiefs moved gatland aside from coaching because he's looking a bit stale and he wouldn't have Sean Edwards and McBryde alongside him.

Yes the one's above him are culpable for a lot of things but those people were there during Gatlands tenure we have no clear game plan other than kick or go into contact our back play is non existent and we have lost to Italy and Georgia during the last 12 months with him in charge and blown a 20 point lead at home.

unfortunately Gatland is the only one who can save the face untill the next RWC...in the meanewhile should be good reorganize all the system and find a coach for a new project...

Robertson will be difficoult to sign, considering the different ambitious, England going bad as Wales

Smith has just done what we'd want, a 6 months job.

I like your thinking, Gatland for some form of continuity, with Brad Mooar as assistant/backs/attack coach.

Tbh I can't remember did he make the subs before the yellow cards?

Ledesma did what he thought was best for Argentina and walked away, it's rare but it does happen.