End of season contracts
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Topic: End of season contracts
Posted By: 1carmscarlet
Subject: End of season contracts
Date Posted: 20 February 2023 at 11:07am
| Does anybody know who's contracts are ending this season? |
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Posted By: Sandman
Date Posted: 28 February 2023 at 5:59pm
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Piece in WOL with Dwayne saying contract negotiations are underway and some high profile players will be leaving and ultimately replaced with current youngsters and not from outside. Although some outside recruitment is needed. Dwayne only mentions Kal as a high profile player who’s leaving. Any other names being banded around? ------------- Only one team plays in red. (Sorry, Scarlet) |
Posted By: London Scarlet
Date Posted: 28 February 2023 at 6:22pm
| I read only half of the 20 players out of contract will be retained |
Posted By: N14
Date Posted: 28 February 2023 at 6:50pm
If those high profile players are the likes of Foxy, Ken, Shingler etc then that needs to happen now anyway regardless of the financial situation. A good time to invest in our younger stars
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Sandman wrote:Posted By: Wil Chips
Date Posted: 28 February 2023 at 6:57pm
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I hope the regions have robust dialogue about players that might become available. A region with too much talent in a position to keep them all might find a match for that player at another region. |
Posted By: Dai Guevara
Date Posted: 28 February 2023 at 7:08pm
| Right Wil. We have a surplus of scrum halves, centres and hookers, but at the end of the season we may have too few second rows, outside halves, back 3 players, and carrying forwards in general. Time for swap-shop. |
Posted By: Oracle
Date Posted: 28 February 2023 at 7:22pm
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Wait a minute , it wasn't that long ago we had to many opensides and within a few weeks we didn't have any fit... I feel certain positions because of the type of play need strength in depth , others not so ....we also need to start and develop our backs to cover more than 1 position , this will give us greater resources to buy a further player or 2 in positions that all ways end up with high amount of injuries
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Posted By: crj89
Date Posted: 28 February 2023 at 7:28pm
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You would like to think Hardy would be perfect for the Ospreys, if we retained Blacker and Davies that is. Thomson and Kalamafoni are 2 high profile players, along with Ken, JD, Halfpenny, Lee, Shingler and Elias presumably as he has over 25 caps? Lezana possibly. I would be disappointed if we lost any one of Wyn Jones, Lousi, Macleod, Gareth Davies, Jonny Williams or McNicholl. Know I’ve missed a few, but can’t think on the top of my head. Thinks it’s far more important to retain a lot of our hopefully future stars.
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Posted By: reesytheexile
Date Posted: 28 February 2023 at 7:34pm
| I guess Patch is another and perhaps sadly Scott? Samson must be at risk as well and Hardy perhaps as we have Cawdor and Blacker plus the two younger ones ? We shall have to wait but losing quality forwards is really not what we want to see.. Kal can’t be replaced by Josh or Carwyn or in terms of serious carries and ball skills although I fully understand his reasons. It’s an awful time to be a coach as well in this climate |
Posted By: reesytheexile
Date Posted: 28 February 2023 at 7:35pm
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Posted By: Why
Date Posted: 28 February 2023 at 7:44pm
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We have too few quality players to give any away to the other Regions and nor do I want any of their outcasts. We have a good nucleus of young players but the next few seasons are going to be a huge struggle.
All because of greed by small minded men who want to keep their place aboard the gravy train. ------------- She asks why i still can't answer. I guess its in the blood. |
Posted By: hoppy
Date Posted: 28 February 2023 at 7:53pm
| Was there a rumour of Dragons flanker coming to scarlets Ben Fry |
Posted By: 157cb
Date Posted: 28 February 2023 at 8:10pm
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My understanding at moment is, we only have one hooker signed up for next season.
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Posted By: reesytheexile
Date Posted: 28 February 2023 at 8:11pm
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Posted By: Huwbach
Date Posted: 28 February 2023 at 8:24pm
| I read a good piece on this somewhere that a squad of 40 May struggle to field a side with HIAs and injuries - imagine you have 15 players out. It’s all a shambles - how can we be expected to win silverware on this? It will just mean more fatigue, injuries, less performance until the argument for 2/3 regions is stronger. |
Posted By: Boisbach
Date Posted: 28 February 2023 at 8:56pm
Plus some international call ups on top. The RFC (who struggle now !) will be taking a hit every week with players supplementing the main Scarlets squad.
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Posted By: Mugwuffin
Date Posted: 28 February 2023 at 9:03pm
It sounds like Cardiff are having to offer quality players derisory contracts in order to fit under the salary cap for next season. Some of the outcasts might be quite handy.
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Posted By: Why
Date Posted: 28 February 2023 at 9:14pm
Would only take Adams out of their backs in front of any of ours. Would probably take Williams in 2nd row and Carre, but only if Franks staying, and Botham from back row. The rest can stay where they are ------------- She asks why i still can't answer. I guess its in the blood. |
Posted By: Oracle
Date Posted: 28 February 2023 at 9:15pm
Posted By: hoppy
Date Posted: 28 February 2023 at 9:25pm
| Hearing Llanelli RFC will be better off next season |
Posted By: Wasp
Date Posted: 28 February 2023 at 9:34pm
In what way? They could certainly do with a lift ------------- We're still still here, but I wish we were in an Anglo-Welsh |
Posted By: lofty evans
Date Posted: 28 February 2023 at 10:12pm
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Keep Blacker...team Wales have ruined Hardy...perfect for Os. ------------- In 1972, Roy Bergiers scored that try and said "that was for you lofty" "All you have to decide is what to do with the time that is given to us" |
Posted By: lofty evans
Date Posted: 28 February 2023 at 10:14pm
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Just a question are Welsh team players on Qtr of a million a year... ------------- In 1972, Roy Bergiers scored that try and said "that was for you lofty" "All you have to decide is what to do with the time that is given to us" |
Posted By: Huwbach
Date Posted: 28 February 2023 at 10:43pm
Some are/were
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Posted By: Huwbach
Date Posted: 28 February 2023 at 10:44pm
Exactly - I can see it now, tonight’s game against Munster called off because of lack of players etc. what a mess.
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Posted By: scarletpimp
Date Posted: 01 March 2023 at 12:38am
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At the moment ,until we have concrete evidence, a lot of talk is sheer speculation. Its a worrying time for the players and their families ,and I feel for them. Of course , we are all concerned fans, because there is no clarity, and when there there is, there is still going to be worry, because the landscape is going to look very different, both here, and across Wales. Its a very sad state of affairs! ------------- I stood yer on tanner bank |
Posted By: Wil Chips
Date Posted: 01 March 2023 at 6:12am
Inter regional transfers (as opposed to players being poached) are a bit hit and miss for sure, but if we are thin in a position once the dust has settled on who has signed/has not signed, I think it is an option when in reality the alternatives either don't exist, or more likely are unaffordable. The other think I see is the Prem will house more ex regional players next year, signing them on short term deals oif the need arises is an option. Merthyr picked up Ashley Beck for example, and although he's not on Cardiff's books per se, he is in their Euro squad. I think we should have considered likewise with Harri Doel...and so on. As for the RFC, unless some benefactor steps in specifically to support them alone, then it doesn't look great. |
Posted By: GPR - Rochester
Date Posted: 01 March 2023 at 6:47am
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For sure its a challenging time but Dwayne, in fairness, came over very well. The finances are what they are & it is clear that the Scarlets are well down the road planning for a rocky couple of years - but importantly we are still alive & fighting. Dwayne suggests that half of the 20 out of contract players will leave. It's a fair guess that many of those will be senior higher paid guys. Wil makes a valid point in suggesting that the knock on effect of the squad reductions across the regions will be more player quality in the Premiership & the opportunity to pad slimmed down squads with experienced players from the Premiership on short term deals. Our academy has never been more important; us supporters have been screaming this season to give our youngsters a chance - well over the next two years they are going to do a lot of heavy lifting.
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Posted By: GPR - Rochester
Date Posted: 01 March 2023 at 6:51am
| I thought Shanklin last Sunday, unusually, talked a great deal of sense. He stated that the age profile of the Scarlets squad was such that very senior guys who may have their best days behind them were clearly the obvious choices to leave while also the Scarlets had a good bunch of young players ready or almost ready to step up. He didn't feel that Cardiff & Ospreys had such favourable profiles. |
Posted By: GPR - Rochester
Date Posted: 01 March 2023 at 7:20am
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Another takeaway from Dwayne's interview with our Steff was that he rated this boy Ben Williams to step up across the back row next season. He also confirmed that new signings would be confined to the forwards for next season. Bearing in mind that the squad is going to be cut by 12-14 from this season I suggest something along the lines of this :- Sione, Blade, a hooker, Phil Price, Jefferies, WGJ, Javan, Lezana, Iestyn Rees, a scrum half, Foxy, Baldwin Halfpenny. I have not included Rawlins, Helps & Cubby in this list despite the fact that they were part of this season's squad.
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Posted By: shocker
Date Posted: 01 March 2023 at 10:00am
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Can we assume the majority of players that don't play much part of the season going forward are maybe not part of our plans next year? Is it better to give them experience this year than starting it on a new season?
Ie we see more of Ben Williams than say lezana. |
Posted By: Why
Date Posted: 01 March 2023 at 10:13am
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We will have a good first team but a raft of injuries like we seem to suffer regulary and we will be struggling. ------------- She asks why i still can't answer. I guess its in the blood. |
Posted By: SA14
Date Posted: 01 March 2023 at 10:14am
| I can see the majority of players in the future going where is best for their financial future not the days of playing for a region they grew up in. |
Posted By: Sandman
Date Posted: 01 March 2023 at 11:07am
------------- Only one team plays in red. (Sorry, Scarlet) |
Posted By: reesytheexile
Date Posted: 01 March 2023 at 11:28am
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Posted By: supertaf
Date Posted: 01 March 2023 at 12:22pm
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I guess lets consider our possible team next year assuming we do lose some big names:- 15 Tom Rogers 14 Steff Evans 13 Joe Roberts 12 Johnny Williams 11 Ryan Conbeer 10 Sam Costellow 9 Dane Blacker 1 Wyn Jones 2 Ken Owens 3 Harri O'connor 4 Sam Lousi 5 Morgan Jones 6 Vaea Fifita 7 Josh Macleod 8 Carwyn Tuipolotu 16 Kemsley Mathias 17 Shaun Evans 18 Sam Wainwright? 19 Jac Price 20 Dan Davis 21 Gareth Davies 22 Dan Jones 23 Ioan Nicholas Not bad but trouble starts when we get injuries
------------- Scarlets - Suppliers of fine rugby since 1872 |
Posted By: reesytheexile
Date Posted: 01 March 2023 at 12:52pm
| Ken may step down after the World Cup ? |
Posted By: 157cb
Date Posted: 01 March 2023 at 1:00pm
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Hoping Johnny Mac his under contract ?
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Posted By: N14
Date Posted: 01 March 2023 at 1:49pm
I'd imagine so
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Posted By: thommo
Date Posted: 01 March 2023 at 1:49pm
Agree. Still our most potent attacker.
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Posted By: ladram
Date Posted: 01 March 2023 at 3:06pm
Wouldn't come under the money well spent banner.
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Posted By: Wasp
Date Posted: 01 March 2023 at 8:30pm
Yeah that's true enough ------------- We're still still here, but I wish we were in an Anglo-Welsh |
Posted By: RR1972
Date Posted: 01 March 2023 at 8:54pm
| Well be better in test windows than most sides, when all sides are are at full strength well struggle esoecually iif make the champions cup in europe. Should win the welsh shield thpugh |
Posted By: shocker
Date Posted: 01 March 2023 at 9:00pm
| Will the wru be compensating the regions for the players |
Posted By: SA14
Date Posted: 01 March 2023 at 9:02pm
Players leaving? Why would they do that?
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Posted By: Oracle
Date Posted: 01 March 2023 at 9:05pm
Because it makes no sense and stinks of miss management 
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Posted By: crj89
Date Posted: 01 March 2023 at 9:11pm
Think that would be the best way around the international window, at least regions know at most how much they’re paying for wages and any payments for players would act as revenue.
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Posted By: shocker
Date Posted: 01 March 2023 at 10:08pm
I meant when the are away on international duty
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Posted By: SA14
Date Posted: 01 March 2023 at 10:24pm
Ah right. In what way compensate? Does compensation to teams when players are on international duty happen in other sports?
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Posted By: Wasp
Date Posted: 01 March 2023 at 10:30pm
There's no requirement to compensate in Rugby, except for all the extra release that we sign up to in Wales such as:
That's what WRU get out of the deal really. If there was no agreement, we'd only have to release players 6 days before the first test, only 3 autumn tests, get any players not in the 23 back by the Tuesday before the game etc. ------------- We're still still here, but I wish we were in an Anglo-Welsh |
Posted By: Mugwuffin
Date Posted: 01 March 2023 at 10:37pm
| I hope we’re not playing anyone good in that 4th autumn international next season. It might not be pretty. |
Posted By: shocker
Date Posted: 02 March 2023 at 1:01am
Not sure so can't comment, but this is welsh rugby. Just wondering if the regions can deny players playing unless the wru pay for their services. After all this wouldn't surprise me after the whole debacle is messy and can get worse
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Posted By: Wil Chips
Date Posted: 02 March 2023 at 4:15am
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RFU do offer clubs compensation for player release, but under a completely different model of course. |
Posted By: Eastern outpost
Date Posted: 02 March 2023 at 7:39am
------------- In a world where you can be anything – Be Kind. |
Posted By: GPR - Rochester
Date Posted: 02 March 2023 at 8:09am
1st 60 minutes against Australia last Autumn.
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Posted By: shocker
Date Posted: 02 March 2023 at 9:24am
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Do we know which scarlets players are in the 38? It looks like this issue is causing regions the most problems
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Posted By: Eastern outpost
Date Posted: 02 March 2023 at 10:13am
What about a lasting the full match pretty feeling?  ------------- In a world where you can be anything – Be Kind. |
Posted By: SA14
Date Posted: 02 March 2023 at 10:31am
Scarlets v Edinburgh.
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Posted By: Mr Lee91
Date Posted: 02 March 2023 at 11:56am
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This is all pure speculation. Our core squad (33) will look something like this; Mathias, Thomas, Sam O’Connor Sh Evans, D Hughes, T Davies Lee, H O’Connor, Wainwright Lousi, J Price, M Jones, AN Other Fifita, B Williams, Macleod, Davis, Tuipulotu Blacker, G Davies, A Hughes Costelow, D Jones, AN Other J Williams, E James Roberts, S Williams Rogers, Conbeer, St Evans, Nicholas, C Williams We add in Lewis Morgan(HK), Griff Evans(LK), Luca Giannini(BR), Iwan Shenton(BR), Harri Williams(SH) plus the 7 other boys with Wales U20’s and our own academy We’re either losing 10 or 13 from this list of 19 with Sebastian, Blade & Kalamafoni confirmed. Wyn Jones, Price Owens, Elias Sebastian, WG John, Jeffries Tom Price, Rawlins Shingler, Rees, Lezana, Blade, Kalamafoni Hardy, Patchell Foxy, Baldwin Halfpenny ------------- As long as you win it once, you'll never be forgotten |
Posted By: lofty evans
Date Posted: 02 March 2023 at 12:11pm
Thanks for this ------------- In 1972, Roy Bergiers scored that try and said "that was for you lofty" "All you have to decide is what to do with the time that is given to us" |
Posted By: Why
Date Posted: 02 March 2023 at 12:26pm
If that is right we will have the core of a good side ifs the depth that worries me ------------- She asks why i still can't answer. I guess its in the blood. |
Posted By: turkishrebel
Date Posted: 02 March 2023 at 12:41pm
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is Scott williams contracted for next season? just looking at the squads now. we still need some expierience in the squad especially if foxey is leaving. would imagine if and only if we do recruit its for a 2nd row and maybe a tighthead. lot of good youngsters in the squad for next year lof of experience leaving too. ------------- Once a Scarlet, always a Scarlet! |
Posted By: crj89
Date Posted: 02 March 2023 at 1:06pm
| It would explain why Jac Price isn’t selected if he was off, for me he’s always looked good and better of the 2 when he and Morgan Jones came through. |
Posted By: 157cb
Date Posted: 02 March 2023 at 1:14pm
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Seventeen players leaving Cardiff. Would love to know all our leavers ?
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Posted By: 157cb
Date Posted: 02 March 2023 at 1:15pm
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Jac Price did go off with a leg injury playing for the RFC a few weeks back .
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Posted By: turkishrebel
Date Posted: 02 March 2023 at 1:41pm
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hope jac price isnt going, hes young and a physical player who could really develop. i think tom price may go ahead of him. 17 players leaving cardiff, boy they will struggle to put any sort of team out next season even if they do find some sort of extra funding as they have said. ------------- Once a Scarlet, always a Scarlet! |
Posted By: Wasp
Date Posted: 02 March 2023 at 2:27pm
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We will hopefully sign one or two new players in strategic areas too ------------- We're still still here, but I wish we were in an Anglo-Welsh |
Posted By: Eastern outpost
Date Posted: 02 March 2023 at 2:31pm
However, I’m 100% with you on the feeling from that day - first time back at PyS for 3 years and seeing us play how I used to remember us near our peak. ------------- In a world where you can be anything – Be Kind. |
Posted By: Why
Date Posted: 02 March 2023 at 2:34pm
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We definitely seem to be in better place than our neighbours and the city slickers. ------------- She asks why i still can't answer. I guess its in the blood. |
Posted By: Fscarlet
Date Posted: 02 March 2023 at 2:48pm
Let's not get ahead of ourselves but I'm not the first to say I am happy with the way our board have handled themselves.
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Posted By: 157cb
Date Posted: 02 March 2023 at 3:01pm
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What worries me a lot of our younger boys go from injury too injury.
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Posted By: ladram
Date Posted: 02 March 2023 at 3:33pm
I've always thought that we get more than our fair share of injuries Mark and what Rob evans said about how much harder training at the Dragons was.
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Posted By: ScarletBear
Date Posted: 02 March 2023 at 3:38pm
So with somebody like Ken. He certainly will be playing in the RWC, so his career will play through until end Oct/early Nov 2023. His Scarlets contract ends May or June and isn't renewed. Do the WRU pick up his salary? How much will that be for? Same as now? Pre this agreement, the WRU paid for 80% of internationals, but that changes in the new season I think, right, and Scarlets would pay him IF we renewed his contract. I am a bit confused who pays what until when, as you can tell. ------------- Scarlets before Wales |
Posted By: Eastern outpost
Date Posted: 02 March 2023 at 5:07pm
------------- In a world where you can be anything – Be Kind. |
Posted By: Scarlet O'Hara
Date Posted: 02 March 2023 at 5:15pm
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I think we are all pretty confused and that includes the WRU! Apparently the players that are on the 80/20 contracts will now have to be paid for fully by their region at the amount that was set at the time. Plus the regions are expected to make all efforts to keep those players or possibly face fines. How that affects any new contracts for those players I don't know. There is surely have to be some compensation for the release of player to team Wales? Especially if they are broken by them as is often the case.
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Posted By: RR1972
Date Posted: 02 March 2023 at 5:28pm
| I think its players who were in the welsh 38 but are no longer in the 38 that regions have to pay in full for. Thats what will hit cardiff with jenkins botham etc |
Posted By: Dai Guevara
Date Posted: 02 March 2023 at 6:02pm
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I think Mr Lee makes a sensible attempt at predicting what's likely to happen although I also hope we make a serious effort to retain, Patchell, McNichol and Wyn Jones, and as someone suggested earlier maybe Ken and Shingler in some sort of player/coach role. |
Posted By: crj89
Date Posted: 02 March 2023 at 6:20pm
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The calls that we were scratching our heads over previously(Patchell out of the team etc.) now seem to make a little more sense and have possibly given our players who wouldn’t ordinarily played more game time as the board had foreseen the situation that was going to play out and planned for that. Following on from Muderack and Peels comments it sounds like we’ve been honest with our players and team selection has echoed that also. |
Posted By: philtheturk56
Date Posted: 02 March 2023 at 7:33pm
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Posted By: Wil Chips
Date Posted: 03 March 2023 at 4:07am
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The 38 squad runs in line with the rugby season. |
Posted By: reesytheexile
Date Posted: 03 March 2023 at 5:00am
| Sad but Samson Lee must be on the list? One a Welsh international and our best prop now constantly injured and very unreliable due to his injuries? |
Posted By: ScarletBear
Date Posted: 03 March 2023 at 5:19am
He went to Coedcae, like me. I remember when we gave him his first pro contract - 5 years in length. ------------- Scarlets before Wales |
Posted By: ScarletBear
Date Posted: 03 March 2023 at 5:25am
Ok, but what about those who dont have a region / club come season end but do play for Wales e.g. Ken? Ken has been quoted as saying he will play for Wales for free. He may have no chance now. And out of interest, do pro rugby players get paid from start of pre season through to last game, so maybe 9 months of the year? In the NFL they play 17 games, so their salary is divided by 17 and they get that after each game. Extra for playoffs I assume. Cheers ------------- Scarlets before Wales |
Posted By: Wil Chips
Date Posted: 03 March 2023 at 6:30am
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Any player in the 38 has to have WRU approval to be able to leave, regardless of contract status. I wouldn't want to speculate who's contract finishes this May or not. Contracts are annual - i.e. 12 months. |
Posted By: Maple
Date Posted: 03 March 2023 at 8:38am
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I would love us to sign Moriarty. I know it's pie in the sky but ah-well. ------------- Give Blood, Play Rugby |
Posted By: Scarlet O'Hara
Date Posted: 03 March 2023 at 9:18am
Thanks for the clarification re the 38, what a mess though. No small wonder the WRU want the benefactors to step in as there is no way you could run a business under those conditions.  It raises so many questions for the regions and the players with regards to pay, length of contract and I should imagine clauses that will be included in them.
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Posted By: supertaf
Date Posted: 03 March 2023 at 11:56am
Pretty close although Id be surprised if Wyn and Ken go and Im not sure if Samson will ever return tbh. Also lets not forget that although we have budget constraints, there is a huge amount of savings in those leavers, we should be able to make some an offer ------------- Scarlets - Suppliers of fine rugby since 1872 |
Posted By: supertaf
Date Posted: 03 March 2023 at 12:00pm
I wonder if they now think that they should have just allowed pro rugby to go its own way 20 years ago rather than the union refusing to release control? ------------- Scarlets - Suppliers of fine rugby since 1872 |
Posted By: supertaf
Date Posted: 03 March 2023 at 12:03pm
i would not be surprised to see Lousi & fifita also leave [/QUOTE]Still contracted though arent they? We could take an offer on them of course but i cant see how we will win a game next season without at least a few big names and in which case, whats the point of carrying on? ------------- Scarlets - Suppliers of fine rugby since 1872 |
Posted By: supertaf
Date Posted: 03 March 2023 at 12:05pm
But there is a perfect example of why we are in the cack, have you seen what he earns?? No way is he worth that. ------------- Scarlets - Suppliers of fine rugby since 1872 |
Posted By: crj89
Date Posted: 03 March 2023 at 12:46pm
Also he’s a 6 and not an 8, I’d have Fifita in my team ahead of him every day of the week.
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Posted By: Gate12
Date Posted: 03 March 2023 at 1:28pm
| Although you can't predict who'll get injured when people with good injury records are more valuable than ever, the likes of Kalamafoni have played more games in 3 years than people like Moriarty in 5 years. |
Posted By: Wasp
Date Posted: 03 March 2023 at 3:11pm
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Lousi and Fifita are both here next season ------------- We're still still here, but I wish we were in an Anglo-Welsh |
Posted By: Dai Guevara
Date Posted: 03 March 2023 at 4:25pm
Great news. |
Posted By: scarletnut
Date Posted: 03 March 2023 at 6:48pm
------------- I still wake up late at night and think of what might have been when tim stimpson hit that jammy penalty1 |
Posted By: Wil Chips
Date Posted: 03 March 2023 at 7:04pm
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Yes--just saw your article with Nigel Walker too ... this caught my eye! 'That (NS38) no longer exists, we have moved to a different system. So the allocation is not 80% WRU and 20% region. All the money has been allocated to the region and they spend it as they see fit. Anybody who is in contract and is a player of national interest who has got a contract through until June 2024, if they wanted to get out of that contract it would be a conversation between a player or a player's agent, the region and the WRU. I would say to that player continue to talk to the region and I will be involved with that conversation. We will just be honest, open and transparent about the position" Great article by the way. |
Posted By: RR1972
Date Posted: 03 March 2023 at 9:13pm
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Posted By: ChrisX
Date Posted: 03 March 2023 at 10:50pm
I hope so, really do, both great again tonight but Sean Holley mentioned on Scrum V that we can probably only really keep one of them given the current contract crisis? |
Posted By: pillory
Date Posted: 06 March 2023 at 11:43am
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Agent whispers in Wales Online?: "Wales hooker Ryan Elias was a target for Racing 92 and Clermont Auvergne but he is now likely to stay at the Scarlets." https://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/rhys-webb-considers-offer-leave-26396502" rel="nofollow - https://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/rhys-webb-considers-offer-leave-26396502
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Posted By: turkishrebel
Date Posted: 06 March 2023 at 12:46pm
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pillory that looks excellent news regarding ryan. really hope its true. ------------- Once a Scarlet, always a Scarlet! |