Remain explained
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Topic: Remain explained
Posted By: GPR - Rochester
Subject: Remain explained
Date Posted: 04 April 2023 at 7:46am
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Posted By: Oracle
Date Posted: 04 April 2023 at 8:24am
| Can't see it |
Posted By: Oracle
Date Posted: 04 April 2023 at 8:32am
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Posted By: GPR - Rochester
Date Posted: 04 April 2023 at 8:53am
Tech failure Mike - moments been lost now I am afraid.
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Oracle wrote:Posted By: Oracle
Date Posted: 04 April 2023 at 9:24am
Gutted 
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Posted By: SA14
Date Posted: 04 April 2023 at 9:53am
Who the hell is Mike?
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Posted By: Oracle
Date Posted: 04 April 2023 at 10:33am
Number 1 poster who is universally loved 
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Posted By: RR1972
Date Posted: 04 April 2023 at 10:45am
| Brexit explained. More people voted leave than voted remain the Rest is meaningless. I say that as a remain voter |
Posted By: Oracle
Date Posted: 04 April 2023 at 11:09am
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There were the lyers who peddled the lies and there were those who believed the lies ... Only good thing about the brexit result is that it will hasten the breakup of this so called neferious union
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Posted By: roy munster
Date Posted: 04 April 2023 at 12:19pm
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I bet greece wish theyd voted for grexit ------------- ROYMOND MUNTER MBE (FOR SERVICES TO THE COMBOVER) |
Posted By: RR1972
Date Posted: 04 April 2023 at 12:23pm
| It won’t for wales though, if brexit was a vote to self harm you can multiply that by ten for wales votiing indy. For a nation with the lowest percebtange rate of high income earmers but the highest percentage rate of benefit claimers where will the finance come from? Where will the civil servant jobs lost in places like the dvla or land reg that serve the whole of the uk be replaced from? What currency will we use? What about our pensions etc Brexit was basically an ideallogical drive to be free from the eu regardless of any financial impact so is this desire for an indy wales. It’s a dreamers policy detached from finacial reality tbh |
Posted By: roy munster
Date Posted: 04 April 2023 at 12:30pm
Indy wales would at this stage be calamitous at best, we cant even build roads or run 1 airport ------------- ROYMOND MUNTER MBE (FOR SERVICES TO THE COMBOVER) |
Posted By: Oracle
Date Posted: 04 April 2023 at 2:24pm
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Hopefully the newer supporter won't have such inferior thoughts about their country and people ....we could easily be a successful country , if our resources were given to the country not raped ...The rubbish about pensions disappearing is more daily mail indoctrinations..money people will allways deal with anyone , that's why your pm has a wife whose company is still trading with Putin , while the rest of us feel the pain ...some people won't believe it because all their lives they have been brainwashed by the Westminster establishment....it's just a matter of time before it happens .... If you don't believe the fact that you are brainwashed , hope you enjoy your kings inauguration at a cost of 600 million pound ...strange how this is being paid for by the public , even though many of it's workers are having to use food banks ....the new carriages , the crowns being produced , and the recipient who cheated on his first wife get it all paid for ....it's a brilliant country to be part of isn't Independence is the only way for us
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Posted By: Oracle
Date Posted: 04 April 2023 at 2:26pm
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Posted By: RR1972
Date Posted: 04 April 2023 at 3:27pm
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Posted By: Oracle
Date Posted: 04 April 2023 at 4:31pm
| What's a British republican |
Posted By: roy munster
Date Posted: 04 April 2023 at 5:38pm
Unike the scots , sadly the WAG have not proved any ability to run wales any more successfully we remain the poorest UK nation and 1 of the poorest in europe ------------- ROYMOND MUNTER MBE (FOR SERVICES TO THE COMBOVER) |
Posted By: Oracle
Date Posted: 04 April 2023 at 9:26pm
| Comparing to vastly Desperate entities with vastly different resources available ..infact you have actually given strength to the independence arguement as what is seen in your comparison is Wales doing poorly compared to Scotland , where Wales has far fewer available powers ..so the greater grip Westminster has , results in the country suffering more |
Posted By: RR1972
Date Posted: 04 April 2023 at 9:32pm
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Posted By: Oracle
Date Posted: 05 April 2023 at 9:15am
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But let's not mention the money that is wasted on big years and his coronation , or the 50 billion that is still missing from PPE , or the strikes that everyone is participating in , or the 5 billion pound that is taken from the Welsh budget or even energy prices going up 140x faster in the UK than the rest of Europe ...no let's not look at the privatisation by stealth of the NHS or even the schools falling apart around the kids .....no I agree running our own affairs will make it worse , but I'm not sure how much wiggle room we have left as Westminster is owning the let's race to the bottom of the pond with its current list of policies after 13 years of un interrupted power .... Maybe they will go back cap in hand to their Russian paymasters yet again
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Posted By: RR1972
Date Posted: 05 April 2023 at 9:31am
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Posted By: RR1972
Date Posted: 05 April 2023 at 9:32am
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Posted By: Oracle
Date Posted: 05 April 2023 at 9:35am
| The budgets for both are controlled by Westminster on the basis that Wales will get a percentage of what England gets , if Westminster cuts the English budgets then we automatically get ours cut too |
Posted By: RR1972
Date Posted: 05 April 2023 at 9:39am
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Posted By: Oracle
Date Posted: 05 April 2023 at 10:07am
But it hasn't increased 
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Posted By: Oracle
Date Posted: 05 April 2023 at 10:08am
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Or incrased
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Posted By: GPR - Rochester
Date Posted: 05 April 2023 at 10:29am
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I can only agree with Oracle ( did i really say that??????) about some of the funding decisions taken by Westminster to the detriment of the Welsh Government & therefore to the Welsh population. The HS2 decision was sheer madness. As for the case for Independence I too was very sceptical about our ability to self govern but I have to admit that 13 years of this Tory government along with some very educational contributions from TBS & Oracle ( there I go again - time for some fresh air)I have certainly moved a lot closer to the supporting Independence. I will give the Labour party a chance to really start levelling up Britain first & then we will see.
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Posted By: Oracle
Date Posted: 05 April 2023 at 10:34am
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What also needs to be remembered is that the current Welsh government and it's ministers are removable , that means if you don't like them you can vote them out , so the arguement of I don't like drakeford doesn't make any sense ... On a side note regarding PR and whether it works or not , all I can suggest is that Gar and myself have agreed with each others point twice in 1 week ...now if that isn't an example of PR working then I don't know what is
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Posted By: GPR - Rochester
Date Posted: 05 April 2023 at 11:56am
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Posted By: roy munster
Date Posted: 05 April 2023 at 12:55pm
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what on earth is happening with Sturgeons husband now? Is this why she quit ? ------------- ROYMOND MUNTER MBE (FOR SERVICES TO THE COMBOVER) |
Posted By: GPR - Rochester
Date Posted: 05 April 2023 at 1:50pm
Yes Roy very interesting development. It revolves around a figure of £660,000 raised in support by the SNP for another campaign for a referendum. It was meant to be ring fenced but recent accounts show it appears to have disappeared. Scottish Police have been investigating for 18 months so it does seem plausible that Sturgeon may have quit before this broke saving herself from serious embarrassment.
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Posted By: Oracle
Date Posted: 05 April 2023 at 2:20pm
As terrible it is , can some one tell me where the missing 60 billion has gone from the westminster government ...both instances should be investigated fully , and whilst that is happening ,we should be investigating the expenses of all politicians
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Posted By: GPR - Rochester
Date Posted: 05 April 2023 at 2:29pm
Don't recognise the 60 billion figure but totally agree with the expenses suggestions. There are far too many MP's walking round Westminster who should in reality be walking around Ford open Prison or other such establishment.
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Posted By: Oracle
Date Posted: 05 April 2023 at 3:44pm
It's mainly taken by PPE ..I shall post the breakdown , when I find the link again to the article 
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