Next season
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Topic: Next season
Posted By: turkishrebel
Subject: Next season
Date Posted: 23 April 2023 at 11:11am
Not sure if I heard right but did they say in commentary that dragons next game is 20th October? Would it mean scarlets will be the same?
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Posted By: Fscarlet
Date Posted: 23 April 2023 at 12:24pm
Yeah, no rugby before the RWC as far as I know.
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Posted By: Formerly Pemberton
Date Posted: 23 April 2023 at 12:52pm
turkishrebel wrote:
Not sure if I heard right but did they say in commentary that dragons next game is 20th October? Would it mean scarlets will be the same? |
I heard that too, so at least 5 months between competitive fixtures. It's going to be a long summer!!
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Posted By: greypower1
Date Posted: 23 April 2023 at 12:54pm
Going to need extra pre season friendlies or it will be Christmas before teams get up to speed.
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Posted By: NobbySosban
Date Posted: 25 April 2023 at 4:13pm
English Premiership & Championship clubs are competing in a reengineered Premiership Cup from September, with pool stages ahead of knock-out rounds - good way to start the season without RWC internationals, and interesting to involve the second tier.
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A similar concept in thee URC probably wouldn't have the appeal, and it's tool late now to revive a Welsh-Anglo competition, sadly. So we'll probs just have another round of under-strength derbies for 'bragging rights' and another spare hub cap. 
Or maybe we invite the likes of Merthyr, Ebbw Vale, Aberavon and even Ponty to play the pro sides in a pre-season mini league? 
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Posted By: Oracle
Date Posted: 25 April 2023 at 5:08pm
Anglo Welsh competition , my what a funny concept ,the neediness of some in hoping our masters across the border might still throw want to throw us an old bone like a needy hound ..no wonder even the rest of the UK just shakes their heads in resignation and sorrow at our lack of back bone ...I've just spent several week in Norway with scots , Irish and Scandinavians , trying to explain not all Welshmen are ready to concede defeat ....it's been an ongoing ribbing I have had to endure .....apologise for the over reaction perhaps , but hopefully the next generation of adults will see things differently and they can shove any Anglo Welsh agreement in any facet of life in the bin , as anything coming from any governing English body has never ever benefited any Welsh man in any facet of life
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Posted By: NobbySosban
Date Posted: 26 April 2023 at 4:08pm
I'd be far more interested in taking on English rivals week in, week out than playing more meaningless 'home or away' matches against union-owned/controlled/funded teams from Italy, South Africa and even Scotland & Ireland.
More away supporters visiting Llanelli, the ability for fans to get to away games without the need for plane or a ferry or a second mortgage, and far more marketable and meaningful fixtures against the oldest enemy. They still may not think they need us, but it's something that I believe would work for rugby in both countries.
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Posted By: scarletpimp
Date Posted: 26 April 2023 at 4:38pm
NobbySosban wrote:
I'd be far more interested in taking on English rivals week in, week out than playing more meaningless 'home or away' matches against union-owned/controlled/funded teams from Italy, South Africa and even Scotland & Ireland.
More away supporters visiting Llanelli, the ability for fans to get to away games without the need for plane or a ferry or a second mortgage, and far more marketable and meaningful fixtures against the oldest enemy. They still may not think they need us, but it's something that I believe would work for rugby in both countries. |
Good point Nobby. I was in Kingsholm last year for the 2022 6N Eng vcWal match. Before the game, I mingled withvGloucester fans in the pub, and they were 100% enthusiastic for the suggestions indicated in Nobby's post. They remembered , when we last played Gloucester, part of the shed was invaded by West Wales, and the singing was great. Far from being offended, they loved it. I liked my Gloucester experience, if not the result that day. Passionate, mainly working class fans like Scarlets , love to be singing, Playing Gloucester, and being accessible, as Nobby,says, would be great. Sadly, do'nt think it will happen though !
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Posted By: GPR - Rochester
Date Posted: 27 April 2023 at 8:48am
scarletpimp wrote:
NobbySosban wrote:
I'd be far more interested in taking on English rivals week in, week out than playing more meaningless 'home or away' matches against union-owned/controlled/funded teams from Italy, South Africa and even Scotland & Ireland.
More away supporters visiting Llanelli, the ability for fans to get to away games without the need for plane or a ferry or a second mortgage, and far more marketable and meaningful fixtures against the oldest enemy. They still may not think they need us, but it's something that I believe would work for rugby in both countries. |
Good point Nobby. I was in Kingsholm last year for the 2022 6N Eng vcWal match. Before the game, I mingled withvGloucester fans in the pub, and they were 100% enthusiastic for the suggestions indicated in Nobby's post. They remembered , when we last played Gloucester, part of the shed was invaded by West Wales, and the singing was great. Far from being offended, they loved it. I liked my Gloucester experience, if not the result that day. Passionate, mainly working class fans like Scarlets , love to be singing, Playing Gloucester, and being accessible, as Nobby,says, would be great. Sadly, do'nt think it will happen though ! |
Agree with you both. Sometimes political thinking carries its influence way too far. Surely you can agree to the merits of a cross border competition where old rivalries are rekindled and travelling supporters get to add to the atmosphere. Support for a rugby competition does not have to equate to support for Westminster or indeed be taken as some sort of acceptance of historical wrongs.
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Posted By: Oracle
Date Posted: 27 April 2023 at 9:35am
I did say I was venting in my defence
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Posted By: GPR - Rochester
Date Posted: 27 April 2023 at 10:46am
Oracle wrote:
I did say I was venting in my defence  |
Feel better now 
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Posted By: Fscarlet
Date Posted: 05 May 2023 at 1:02pm
Samson Lee starting tomorrow for Llandovery against Newport.
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Posted By: Oracle
Date Posted: 05 May 2023 at 1:05pm
That's great news for the big guy ...hope he gets through it without any further injuries
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Posted By: Realwest
Date Posted: 05 May 2023 at 2:03pm
Great news about Samson starting is a big step hopefully he just gets a half or something but surely there will be a plan for him.
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Posted By: reesytheexile
Date Posted: 05 May 2023 at 2:43pm
Have a look at the quality in the Drovers team. The RFC stood no chance against that background. The player budget must be significant . Proper club with proper clubhouse
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Posted By: GPR - Rochester
Date Posted: 05 May 2023 at 3:04pm
reesytheexile wrote:
Have a look at the quality in the Drovers team. The RFC stood no chance against that background. The player budget must be significant . Proper club with proper clubhouse |
A very well run organisation reesy - we are going to be relying on them a lot next season.
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Posted By: hoppy
Date Posted: 05 May 2023 at 3:19pm
Llandovery are a very good side they bring in a lot of income from renting out to caravaners going well in the league game is live on the you tube channel tomorrow great to see samson lee involved tomorrow
Also helps that Euros Evans works in Coleg sir gar lot of good talent that he knows Did the RFC have people involved in watching these players
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Posted By: Mugwuffin
Date Posted: 05 May 2023 at 4:04pm
reesytheexile wrote:
Have a look at the quality in the Drovers team. The RFC stood no chance against that background. The player budget must be significant . Proper club with proper clubhouse | Most of their squad are former Scarlets Academy boys who weren’t quite good enough to make it at the club/pro level, but who are amongst the best players in the Premiership.
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Posted By: Boisbach
Date Posted: 05 May 2023 at 5:00pm
reesytheexile wrote:
Have a look at the quality in the Drovers team. The RFC stood no chance against that background. The player budget must be significant . Proper club with proper clubhouse |
Yes agree an excellent semi pro squad with a large budget. A good set up and very well coached .
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Posted By: ladram
Date Posted: 05 May 2023 at 7:49pm
Handover always had a good team years ago was there when they beat Ponty when Wesh cup was proper
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Posted By: ladram
Date Posted: 05 May 2023 at 7:50pm
Posted By: Oracle
Date Posted: 05 May 2023 at 8:16pm
Oh dear me
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Posted By: Fscarlet
Date Posted: 11 May 2023 at 8:23pm
Think the URC season is set to start on the weekend of the 20th October which is the same weekend as the rugby World Cup semi finals.
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Posted By: Why
Date Posted: 11 May 2023 at 9:02pm
Fscarlet wrote:
Think the URC season is set to start on the weekend of the 20th October which is the same weekend as the rugby World Cup semi finals. |
Let’s hope we get Leinster that weekend
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Posted By: Fscarlet
Date Posted: 12 May 2023 at 8:29am
If I was slightly unsure about us being remotely competitive next season I am now of the opinion none of the regions will be.
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Posted By: Legendinmybathroom
Date Posted: 12 May 2023 at 7:45pm
Looks like the URC are considering dropping the regional shield model of qualifying for the Champions Cup, so a club / province or region will only qualify for the Champions Cup if they finish in the top 8 in the IRC. I’m in agreement with that, and I would hope that it would see a sea change in the WRUs attitude towards regional rugby. They would have to increase funding levels for the regions if they would want to a region sitting at the top table. As it currently stands, the WRU can just sit back and see the regions struggling in the URC in the knowledge that even if the 4 regions finished in the bottom four positions in the URC they would still get a representative in the Champions Cup.
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Posted By: Eastern outpost
Date Posted: 12 May 2023 at 8:14pm
Legendinmybathroom wrote:
Looks like the URC are considering dropping the regional shield model of qualifying for the Champions Cup, so a club / province or region will only qualify for the Champions Cup if they finish in the top 8 in the IRC.I’m in agreement with that, and I would hope that it would see a sea change in the WRUs attitude towards regional rugby. They would have to increase funding levels for the regions if they would want to a region sitting at the top table. As it currently stands, the WRU can just sit back and see the regions struggling in the URC in the knowledge that even if the 4 regions finished in the bottom four positions in the URC they would still get a representative in the Champions Cup. | I somehow thought this had already been agreed 
Maybe I imagined it.
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Posted By: Oracle
Date Posted: 12 May 2023 at 8:21pm
I agree with it , if your not good enough you shouldn't be in an even bigger competition
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Posted By: Fscarlet
Date Posted: 12 May 2023 at 8:59pm
It had kind of been agreed in so much that it would take an unanimous vote to keep with the current system of qualification, which of course the Irish & South African sides wouldn’t vote for.
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Posted By: mr geraint
Date Posted: 13 May 2023 at 6:28am
Legendinmybathroom wrote:
Looks like the URC are considering dropping the regional shield model of qualifying for the Champions Cup, so a club / province or region will only qualify for the Champions Cup if they finish in the top 8 in the IRC.I’m in agreement with that, and I would hope that it would see a sea change in the WRUs attitude towards regional rugby. They would have to increase funding levels for the regions if they would want to a region sitting at the top table. As it currently stands, the WRU can just sit back and see the regions struggling in the URC in the knowledge that even if the 4 regions finished in the bottom four positions in the URC they would still get a representative in the Champions Cup. |
This won’t change the WRU.
We just have to hope that changing a load of people at the top of the WRU will create a different attitude toward the club game.
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Posted By: Wil Chips
Date Posted: 13 May 2023 at 8:42am
Welsh teams would be mad to support a binning of the Shield leagues.
It's absolutely fair and equitable that they should of course.
It's like saying you have to have Kent representation in the Champions League so Snodland Utd are in.
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Posted By: GPR - Rochester
Date Posted: 13 May 2023 at 9:06am
The vote to retain the status quo has to be unanimous so its as good as over for the Shield. South Africa & Irish teams will clearly not support it. No point really in Welsh teams under the current finance arrangements even considering the Champions Cup.
I fear for Cardiff next season.
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Posted By: Mugwuffin
Date Posted: 13 May 2023 at 10:01am
As unpalatable as it is, being in the Challenge Cup is probably the best thing for our club at the moment. Our run this season allowed us to sell 27,000 more tickets than we would’ve had we played in the Champions Cup instead.
The ambition for the Welsh clubs must be to get to a stage where we’re earning home knockout matches in the top competition, but a lot of rebuilding needs to happen before we’re there.
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