samson Lee
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Topic: samson Lee
Posted By: scarletpimp
Subject: samson Lee
Date Posted: 18 May 2023 at 12:29am
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As we know, it was announced that Samson has signed a new contract (not sure of the length). With Sebastian leaving, it could leave us thin at TH , if there any flare ups with Samson, regarding fitness. Bearing in mind his recent injury and history prior to that when he got injured playing for Wales, there is bound to be scepticism regarding the fact on whether he can stay fit, and also the level of performance. We have already seen how Wyn Jones, is struggling to recapture his old form, since his serious injury, and in that context Kemsley Mathias, will be NO1 LH at Scarlets next season, deserving of his place in Gatland's extended squad Finding available quality tight heads available, of course is another matter, and I am sure Dwaine and the coaching team have looked in to all the scenarios, and made their investigations, before coming to any conclusions. I wish Samson every best wish to reignite his career, and fitness. I will be a very hard Summer of work for him ahead. I am not anticipating that he can rediscover former glories, but if he can do a job, I will be happy ------------- I stood yer on tanner bank |
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Posted By: Wil Chips
Date Posted: 18 May 2023 at 5:58am
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Samson actually snapped his Achilles 6 years apart. The oft read 'he's never been the same player' is a bit of lazy tag in my mind... More of a concern is how the expectation on props has changed quite a bit in recent years. When we think about Wyn and Samson we think about the scrum being 'anchored', we don't necessarily think about them as ball carriers or 12+ tackles a match guys that much. But that's where the modern TH (and LH) props are these days (less about set piece domination, and more on impact on the other facets of play). |
Posted By: GPR - Rochester
Date Posted: 18 May 2023 at 6:50am
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Indeed Wil. Mobility is now Gatland's mantra. When I watch some of the French top 14 teams their front row forwards are all over the ball come breakdown time. Physically of course that makes a lot of sense as they usually are 120kgs + guys with very low centres of gravity so possess the solidity to withstand the punishment. However here is the rub - can they get to those breakdowns quick enough & often enough to make it count. Both Wyn & Samson will hopefully have good pre-seasons learning new skills. They both have loads left in the tank & won't go away easily.
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Posted By: Wil Chips
Date Posted: 18 May 2023 at 6:54am
| For sure, competent exponents, just need to add a few strings to the bow - a la Porter, Furlong etc. |
Posted By: Why
Date Posted: 18 May 2023 at 8:33pm
Yet he still picks Francis and Beard ------------- She asks why i still can't answer. I guess its in the blood. |
GPR - Rochester wrote:Posted By: Realwest
Date Posted: 18 May 2023 at 9:28pm
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Heard his contract is 12 months, given his injury’s of late that seems fair. Here’s to wishing him a successful season and a injury free run.
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Posted By: reesytheexile
Date Posted: 19 May 2023 at 12:06am
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Posted By: SA14
Date Posted: 19 May 2023 at 7:36am
| I’d imagine another reason is he’s probably not digging too much into their budget. |
Posted By: Seagultaf
Date Posted: 19 May 2023 at 12:30pm
I didnt think the Scarlets had any games during the World Cup?
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Posted By: Fscarlet
Date Posted: 19 May 2023 at 1:14pm
URC is due to start on the same weekend as the RWC semi finals.
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Posted By: Eastern outpost
Date Posted: 19 May 2023 at 1:15pm
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Posted By: Wil Chips
Date Posted: 19 May 2023 at 1:25pm
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Yep. Wales players would be missing until the December games/Xmas derbies sort of time. |
Posted By: Seagultaf
Date Posted: 19 May 2023 at 3:12pm
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I would be surprised if Wales or Tonga are involved in the latter stages of the World Cup. Also as far as I am aware there are no Autumn Internationals next season. And as the WRU are no longer contributing towards the salaries of Welsh Squad players, I struggle to see how they can enforce a “mandatory” rest period. So other than injuries and player welfare for any Scarlets players who have had a particularly high work load in the World Cup, shouldn't all Scarlets squad players be available for the start of the URC?
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Posted By: Oracle
Date Posted: 19 May 2023 at 3:40pm
| Never mind the Welsh players , make sure the bloody Tongans are available , way more important for us |
Posted By: reesytheexile
Date Posted: 19 May 2023 at 4:20pm
As usual I agree with you 😇 (By the way, have I passed the Follower of The Oracle indoctrination programme yet? It’s hard work being a groveller 🙏😜)
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Posted By: Oracle
Date Posted: 19 May 2023 at 4:57pm
Your a good groveller, the great leader is impressed 
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Posted By: Wasp
Date Posted: 21 May 2023 at 8:17pm
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Think the rest periods after the RWC are based on minutes/ games played. Some players will only have a week or two ------------- We're still still here, but I wish we were in an Anglo-Welsh |
Posted By: Seagultaf
Date Posted: 21 May 2023 at 8:58pm
Now that the WRU are no longer contributing to player salaries, surely we will be back to IRB rules, which I believe state that players must be released back to their clubs 60 hours after the last game that they play in?
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Posted By: Wasp
Date Posted: 23 May 2023 at 7:39pm
The contract we have with WRU provides for extensive management of Welsh squad players. Much as I am no fan of the WRU, I don't expect them to provide £5m/yr for nothing! ------------- We're still still here, but I wish we were in an Anglo-Welsh |
Posted By: Eastern outpost
Date Posted: 23 May 2023 at 8:14pm
------------- In a world where you can be anything – Be Kind. |