The very nature of the way this obscene comic operates however, its guilty by "association ."They have printed no facts yet, and as far as we know, have none

Sadly it speaks volumes for the level of intelligence for those individuals who part with their money to read it.

This is the publication, that denigrated the miners in the 80's , facing the dismantling of their industry and communities. It condemned completely innocent Liverpool fans at Hillsborough ,brandishing them as "thugs", when we know the police were responsible for that tragic fiasco. The senior police officer David Duckenfield made appalling judgements, but has escaped justice.

This disgraceful rag, is seeing is sales falling and has had to pay out sizable damage payments, due to phone hacking, so is desperate to generate sales.

Did they contact the young person at the centre of this tragedy, for her side of the story ..no !

It is therefore a one sided story, and anyone telling their story to the Sun, must be viewed with an element of suspicion

We need to hear what Huw Edwards has to say, before forming any judgements.

If has been unwise, but acted within the law, its for the BBC his employer to deal with, and of course 

the major thing is his family, and how they deal with it.

My overwhelming feeling however is of immense saddens, there are no winners here only losers!

Huw Edwards is a hugely respected man, proud Welshman, and a famous son of Llangengech.

He has been at the top of the current affairs for TWO DECADES, and has been the very voice of the BBC at huge events and state occasions.

Huw may be very well paid, but the pressure of his he has been under for a sustained period, must be immense. 

If he felt his mental health slipping, and surely should have stepped back , to protect himself.

Sadly  he is possibly now paying the price, with the current allegations exacerbating the situation.

Mental health is a huge problem in todays society and its something you cannot fully appreciate, unless you have experienced it yourself.

i have had first hand experience, both with a close friend, and my mother, and its awful.

i wish Huw a speedy recovery and my thoughts are for his family, and the young person, caught up in this story

Well said Wil. I second my total support for Huw's family. I wish him a speedy recovery & look forward to him putting the record straight once he is able. Big respect to his wife.

Which also makes me think it must be an exciting job being a Sun lawyer.

First sentence - exactly

With regard to the lawyer - lucrative certainly. 

Second what GPR has said...wise words from him( and GPR).Its great that these two guys wise words aren't restricted to cricket.

On reflection  today, it's nauseating,  that we have a despicable comic like the Sun operating in the mainstream  of our society. 

It's done so much damage, hurt so many people over the years...in the name of the truth ??

It wouldn't  know the truth if it was slapped  it's face...but IT WOULDN'T CARE, as the truth matters little to the Sun !

On another point has Test Match Special  given u guys a ring yet ?

The name of the papers doesn't matter , what the point here is that truths are being ignored and selective people control what we hear ...Fox news is a prime example of what can go wrong when lies are continuously being spouted , which turned extremists into a mob to destroy the fabric of a country 

On the other hand, he may not wish to put his wife and family through any more gossip and turmoil, nor himself for that matter.

I hope he does go after the Sun

Whilst it’s grubby stuff,they would say that this was with informed consent ( presumably parental as well) unlike cases where a senior figure can engage in dominant behaviour based on the power they inherently hold in a business . Sadly I fear more tales will emerge but which will embarrass rather than he criminal, but nonetheless upsetting to many people. A sad case which of course the Sun thrives on. Thankfully it’s dropped down the news this morning as it was OTT compared to other news 

My heart goes out to all the people involved in the allegations and to Huw and his family, as this affects them equally, I hope he recovers from his current health issues quickly and clears the story himself.  Huw is a legend, has fronted the BBC current affairs department for over 2 decades and has been trusted to cover all of the major news events in that time, and has done so impeccably and with real empathy and compassion - something I hope he and his family receive in light of the current situation.

I too hope that if no criminality has been committed by Huw, and that nome of the so-called evidence of the allegations by the sun are proven credible, that Huw and others go after the sun for the gutter press that they are, and always have been.

What on earth is the argument here? The Sun publish a story which they clearly knew would get headlines & also lead to massive issues for a family. Nothing new there of course. However they try to hide behind the fact that it is for the public good yet, and here is the sting, they totally fail to corroborate the story with the apparent victim in this who is now 20 & deemed to be an adult. If they had they would have received a somewhat different, far less sensational story. 

Look Huw may well have his issues but it surely is not for me or any other contributor on this forum to denounce what he may or may not have done. It may not be our cup of tea, it may not be his wife's but it is not breaking the law & frankly it's nobody's business but theirs. Oracle has given a perfect example of how news outlets can knowingly print lies and the consequences are extremely damaging. What happened in America should be a lesson to us all. 

As for my sympathy - well I do feel sympathy for Huw, a fellow human being, who has been forced to watch his reputation as one of the foremost political journalists of our time take a total battering while he is not yet mentally capable of fighting back. Hopefully, in the not too distant future, he will be able to set the record straight. 

I guess its called benefit of the doubt - or innocent until proven guilty. Do you not feel any sympathy for someone who is in the public eye having their reputation tarnished by a as yet unproven story which the police have already confirmed was not unlawful. If you or I had done what Huw is alleged to have done would anyone bat an eyelid? I am lucky ( I think) that I have the skin of a rhino & have never suffered with depression or other mental health issues but I have seen the devastation close up with family members. Do I feel sorry for them - yes I certainly do; do I have sympathy - absolutely yes. 

He has also been prepared to back his words with action and is a Patron of the Llanelli branch of MIND, the mental health charity. 

Now that he needs help, I think he deserves sympathy and the time to get the treatment that he clearly needs at the present time. I also have so much sympathy for others who have been dragged in to this, including his wife and family.

If the Sun were so incensed about a 'crime' having been committed, I think the correct course of action would have been to pass any information and evidence to the Police and let them investigate. The Sun are not the judge and jury on this or any other case. Sadly this sort of story sells copy.

He did not think about his family when he was doing this he did not care about the damage he was doing to them. He’s been very selfish and they now have to deal with the fallout.

I’m sorry he has mental health issues and hope he gets better soon but as great a broadcaster he is now tainted by his tardy and unseemly behaviour. 

Well he did resign so there is some truth in it otherwise he would still be reading the news. 

Not sure if he has resigned. In hospital with Mental Health issues. Let's not judge too quickly.

Exactly...we don't know whether he has been unwise or not. .we don't have the facts !

There is clearly no illegality, so its an issue for the BBC  Huw's employers, and his family, as I said in yesterdays post.

The important issue here is the role of the Sun, and its recurring role of 'Muckraker' in chief, as it has constantly done for decades.

How many lives have they ruined in the past with their version of "fake news"

It would be great to hear posters like MINDED and RR  actually condemn the Sun , not just pontificate on the alleged actions of Huw Edwards.

Have you suffered mental health gentlemen? Probably not !

Personally I find it very sad hearing fellow posters taking the moral high ground on this issue but thats just my slant on it. On a lighter note I sold Huw a book online a year or so ago. Seeing an address in London combined with the fact that it was a book in Welsh I put two and two together and sent him an e-mail thanking him and wondering if he was the famous Huw Edwards. I received a lovely reply in Welsh.

Scarletpimp i like and respect your contributions on the forum but on this occasion i think you are wrong for calling out Minded and RR on the forum by asking if they have had mental issues surely in your defence of Huw and the need for his business to remain his business surely they deserve the same respect and i don't think anyone on the forum likes the SUN but if they do just because you detest it they are entitled to their opinion on this open forum.

No one is taking the moral high ground, the BBC has reported he has resigned and the people in charge of the BBC and said his actions have not been good for the organisation.

I commented on the fact his actions would have a devastating effect on his wife and children. It’s easy to feel sorry for him but for me as usual it is the family left behind that suffers most. 

He might be the nicest bloke in the world and may have not done anything illegal but he has certainly brought a whole lot of angst to his family. That is not taking the moral high ground.

As for asking, and I know it wasn’t you, about if you’ve suffered from mental health what a ridiculous question. At some time in life we all suffer from mental health problems it’s addressing those problems that is the key and how they are managed. 

It’s a very sad episode and no one wins but unfortunately the British people seem to be quick to put people on a pedestal but then revel in seeing them fall off that same pedestal. 

On the subject of resigning this probably explains the confusion-