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Topic: Home kit 2023/24
Posted By: minded
Subject: Home kit 2023/24
Date Posted: 28 July 2023 at 10:30am
Now available:-  https://shop.scarlets.wales/collections/23-24-home" rel="nofollow - https://shop.scarlets.wales/collections/23-24-home

https://twitter.com/scarlets_rugby/status/1684851436473995264" rel="nofollow - https://twitter.com/scarlets_rugby/status/1684851436473995264

(£60 for a pair of shorts is mental)


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Posted By: Mr Ian
Date Posted: 28 July 2023 at 11:00am
I like the new shirt..
unfortunately now a day is really complicated to buy merchandising, specially for a technical shirt that you cant wear daily...


Posted By: philturk
Date Posted: 28 July 2023 at 11:05am
Just a thought, why don't kit suppliers engage with the fans and throw a few designs out to gain buy in on the design?

Castore get the designs for F1 spot on, with some really great gear available. Their designs for us have been nothing more than a wet weekend


Posted By: turkishrebel
Date Posted: 28 July 2023 at 11:18am
£70 bit steep that too and i doubt if the quality is any better. doesnt really look much different to last years jersey. 
doubt i will buy it


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Posted By: Fscarlet
Date Posted: 28 July 2023 at 11:24am
Originally posted by philturk philturk wrote:

Just a thought, why don't kit suppliers engage with the fans and throw a few designs out to gain buy in on the design?

Castore get the designs for F1 spot on, with some really great gear available. Their designs for us have been nothing more than a wet weekend

Probably budgets & things.


Posted By: SA14
Date Posted: 28 July 2023 at 12:26pm
Grateful for the cash but oil 4 wales logo looks so naff. I’ll avoid kits until they change. 


Posted By: pillory
Date Posted: 28 July 2023 at 12:47pm
Originally posted by SA14 SA14 wrote:

Grateful for the cash but oil 4 wales logo looks so naff. I’ll avoid kits until they change. 

Same.
Venn diagram of prince feathers and being a walking ad for fossil fuels.

Oil 4 Wales is changing! We are becoming ‘Green 4 Wales’ over the next 12 months and this move will see us replacing fossil fuels with environmentally friendly alternatives.”


Date: June 2021  https://www.oil4wales.co.uk/green-4-wales/" rel="nofollow - https://www.oil4wales.co.uk/green-4-wales/


Posted By: Seagultaf
Date Posted: 28 July 2023 at 1:02pm
Originally posted by pillory pillory wrote:

Originally posted by SA14 SA14 wrote:

Grateful for the cash but oil 4 wales logo looks so naff. I’ll avoid kits until they change. 

Same.
Venn diagram of prince feathers and being a walking ad for fossil fuels.

Oil 4 Wales is changing! We are becoming ‘Green 4 Wales’ over the next 12 months and this move will see us replacing fossil fuels with environmentally friendly alternatives.”


Date: June 2021  https://www.oil4wales.co.uk/green-4-wales/" rel="nofollow - https://www.oil4wales.co.uk/green-4-wales/

I think thats whats is called Green Washing!


Posted By: dr_martinov
Date Posted: 28 July 2023 at 2:10pm
Originally posted by Seagultaf Seagultaf wrote:

Originally posted by pillory pillory wrote:

Originally posted by SA14 SA14 wrote:

Grateful for the cash but oil 4 wales logo looks so naff. I’ll avoid kits until they change. 

Same.
Venn diagram of prince feathers and being a walking ad for fossil fuels.

Oil 4 Wales is changing! We are becoming ‘Green 4 Wales’ over the next 12 months and this move will see us replacing fossil fuels with environmentally friendly alternatives.”


Date: June 2021  https://www.oil4wales.co.uk/green-4-wales/" rel="nofollow - https://www.oil4wales.co.uk/green-4-wales/

I think thats whats is called Green Washing!

Guess we know what colour the away kit is then.


Posted By: pillory
Date Posted: 28 July 2023 at 2:27pm
Originally posted by pillory pillory wrote:

Originally posted by SA14 SA14 wrote:

Grateful for the cash but oil 4 wales logo looks so naff. I’ll avoid kits until they change. 

Same.
Venn diagram of prince feathers and being a walking ad for fossil fuels.

Oil 4 Wales is changing! We are becoming ‘Green 4 Wales’ over the next 12 months and this move will see us replacing fossil fuels with environmentally friendly alternatives.”


Date: June 2021  https://www.oil4wales.co.uk/green-4-wales/" rel="nofollow - https://www.oil4wales.co.uk/green-4-wales/

Wow, I literally just passed a Green4Wales tanker on the road. 


Posted By: Wil Chips
Date Posted: 28 July 2023 at 6:23pm
It’s pretty much last years kit and sponsor layout, so not so much to comment on.

Training gear is an upgrade.

Prices are going to drive our season buys even lower sadly.


Posted By: SA14
Date Posted: 28 July 2023 at 7:32pm
I’m sure prices were lower last year. What happened to the days of money off vouchers for season ticket holders?


Posted By: Gate12
Date Posted: 28 July 2023 at 7:57pm
I quite like the new kit, when you've got so many sponsors it's got to be quite a subtle design. I'm just hoping they fit a bit better this season.


Posted By: bydder
Date Posted: 28 July 2023 at 8:09pm
Will they ever bring back white shorts and bit of navy on shirts?

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Posted By: Wil Chips
Date Posted: 28 July 2023 at 9:39pm
Originally posted by bydder bydder wrote:

Will they ever bring back white shorts and bit of navy on shirts?


Great call on a contrast trim ( navy ).


Posted By: Gate12
Date Posted: 28 July 2023 at 10:06pm
Originally posted by bydder bydder wrote:

Will they ever bring back white shorts and bit of navy on shirts?

The anniversary kit had both, unfortunately both the supporters version and player ones were the worst fitting rugby jerseys I think I ever attempted to try on.


Posted By: Dai Guevara
Date Posted: 29 July 2023 at 4:37am
The disgraceful 3 feathers is now even more prominent. Is this because we are even more committed to the feudal parasite, called the prince of Wales, that has recently been imposed on us? Or has our admiration and respect for the WRU reached new heights?


Posted By: Oracle
Date Posted: 29 July 2023 at 6:49am
Clap


Posted By: Wil Chips
Date Posted: 29 July 2023 at 7:17am
Originally posted by Dai Guevara Dai Guevara wrote:

The disgraceful 3 feathers is now even more prominent. Is this because we are even more committed to the feudal parasite, called the prince of Wales, that has recently been imposed on us? Or has our admiration and respect for the WRU reached new heights?


I for one will be running on the pitch in my pink panther outfit and spraying orange paint in the Oil for Wales logo.


Posted By: Oracle
Date Posted: 29 July 2023 at 7:42am
Touched a nerve there will


Posted By: nev
Date Posted: 29 July 2023 at 8:08am
Totally agree with you Dai 👍

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Posted By: reesytheexile
Date Posted: 29 July 2023 at 9:43am
Originally posted by Dai Guevara Dai Guevara wrote:

The disgraceful 3 feathers is now even more prominent. Is this because we are even more committed to the feudal parasite, called the prince of Wales, that has recently been imposed on us? Or has our admiration and respect for the WRU reached new heights?
 

It’s a great shame that in a modern climate of apathy or dislike of the idea of a feudal monarchy, that a great local sponsor has the three feathers as their business logo and that it’s so prominent on the jersey- but that’s obviously their privilege as a main sponsor! I’d rather see the feathers than a betting or loan company and the club isn’t a political independence party and isn’t going to reject a substantial sum from Oil 4?Wales or disrespect them. Fans will either buy the top or not. 

Personally it’s the price that offends most. 


Posted By: Wil Chips
Date Posted: 29 July 2023 at 10:45am
Originally posted by Oracle Oracle wrote:

Touched a nerve there will



Long way short of that fella. This is a thread on the new kit.

In the current financial climate in Welsh rugby i doubt we could afford to turn down any sponsorship.

The Scarlets don’t endorse what their sponsors might stand for. It’s a rugby shirt not a border or sovereignty dispute.



Posted By: Dai Guevara
Date Posted: 29 July 2023 at 11:01am
Wil
What's on the shirt represents the Scarlets. Is there anything you wouldn't have on the shirt so long as it gave money to the Scarlets?
This is about what the 3 feathers represents not the crawling of the bosses of Oil for Wales who either don't have the imagination to think of a different logo or are working hard for an MBE or some similar award for the crach that have worked hard for the undemocratic English establishment.


Posted By: Wil Chips
Date Posted: 29 July 2023 at 2:45pm
ok.



Posted By: Oracle
Date Posted: 29 July 2023 at 2:52pm
Originally posted by Wil Chips Wil Chips wrote:

Originally posted by Oracle Oracle wrote:

Touched a nerve there will



Long way short of that fella. This is a thread on the new kit.

In the current financial climate in Welsh rugby i doubt we could afford to turn down any sponsorship.

The Scarlets don’t endorse what their sponsors might stand for. It’s a rugby shirt not a border or sovereignty dispute

I'm glad it hasn't upset you , as I wouldn't have been able to sleep tonight...bad dai Wink


Posted By: ladram
Date Posted: 29 July 2023 at 2:55pm
Why does every thread turn political and drift into a theme about how hard done by us poor Welsh are this used to be a fun place to visit.Angry


Posted By: turkishrebel
Date Posted: 29 July 2023 at 4:06pm
It's just too expensive. We don't live in London or east counties. We live in a relatively poor area. Sorry spending £70 on a Jersey not much different to last year's, no thanks. Sales will be further down again 

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Posted By: Realwest
Date Posted: 29 July 2023 at 4:31pm
I think we should be thankful for every sponsor on the shirt I haven’t got a clue on the financials for the Scarlets shirt are but I know Oil for Wales has done a great deal for local club sponsorships, put it this way the squad would be a hell of a lot worse without the main sponsor.

I’m not overly impressed with the Shirt very similar to last year.

I don’t know what people would accept as a fair price but £70 is a bit steep I’d say £60 would be a good price.


Posted By: Oracle
Date Posted: 29 July 2023 at 7:44pm
Originally posted by ladram ladram wrote:

Why does every thread turn political and drift into a theme about how hard done by us poor Welsh are this used to be a fun place to visit.Angry

It's because people voted for Westminster control , brexit  etc ....it's put us all in the poor house , and taken out community away ....everything is political 


Posted By: N14
Date Posted: 29 July 2023 at 7:56pm
Discussions in Scarlets General should be restricted to discussion about the Scarlets and all things Scarlet-related. It requires mental gymnastics to try to justify how Brexit, the Monarchy, the Tories and most other political issues have anything to do with Scarlets rugby. There are other sections of the forum which allow for political discussion but some members sadly continue to push out their political views in rugby-related threads.


Posted By: Oracle
Date Posted: 29 July 2023 at 8:08pm
Thanks


Posted By: Dai Guevara
Date Posted: 29 July 2023 at 8:51pm
Originally posted by N14 N14 wrote:

Discussions in Scarlets General should be restricted to discussion about the Scarlets and all things Scarlet-related. It requires mental gymnastics to try to justify how Brexit, the Monarchy, the Tories and most other political issues have anything to do with Scarlets rugby. There are other sections of the forum which allow for political discussion but some members sadly continue to push out their political views in rugby-related threads.


I thought this thread was about our home kit, which, I believe has a nauseating 3 feathers logo at its very heart. Do you want to start a separate fashion thread to keep nasty social comments that you don't agree with from your and Ladram's sensitive eyes?


Posted By: Oracle
Date Posted: 29 July 2023 at 8:56pm
Clap


Posted By: N14
Date Posted: 29 July 2023 at 11:18pm
Originally posted by Dai Guevara Dai Guevara wrote:

Originally posted by N14 N14 wrote:

Discussions in Scarlets General should be restricted to discussion about the Scarlets and all things Scarlet-related. It requires mental gymnastics to try to justify how Brexit, the Monarchy, the Tories and most other political issues have anything to do with Scarlets rugby. There are other sections of the forum which allow for political discussion but some members sadly continue to push out their political views in rugby-related threads.


I thought this thread was about our home kit, which, I believe has a nauseating 3 feathers logo at its very heart. Do you want to start a separate fashion thread to keep nasty social comments that you don't agree with from your and Ladram's sensitive eyes?


To be honest I was more referring to comments made about Brexit and ‘Westminster control’ than anything else, which Oracle tries to mention at any given opportunity. It’s a shame, because I tend to enjoy his contributions when he keeps the politics out of it.

As for your comments about the 3 feathers, I think it’s a daft thing to get so worked up about, however you are of course entitled to share your opinion on our Scarlets kit.


Posted By: ladram
Date Posted: 30 July 2023 at 2:49am
Originally posted by Dai Guevara Dai Guevara wrote:

Originally posted by N14 N14 wrote:

Discussions in Scarlets General should be restricted to discussion about the Scarlets and all things Scarlet-related. It requires mental gymnastics to try to justify how Brexit, the Monarchy, the Tories and most other political issues have anything to do with Scarlets rugby. There are other sections of the forum which allow for political discussion but some members sadly continue to push out their political views in rugby-related threads.


I thought this thread was about our home kit, which, I believe has a nauseating 3 feathers logo at its very heart. Do you want to start a separate fashion thread to keep nasty social comments that you don't agree with from your and Ladram's sensitive eyes?
Not sensitive at all just easily bored .


Posted By: ladram
Date Posted: 30 July 2023 at 2:50am
Originally posted by N14 N14 wrote:

Originally posted by Dai Guevara Dai Guevara wrote:

Originally posted by N14 N14 wrote:

Discussions in Scarlets General should be restricted to discussion about the Scarlets and all things Scarlet-related. It requires mental gymnastics to try to justify how Brexit, the Monarchy, the Tories and most other political issues have anything to do with Scarlets rugby. There are other sections of the forum which allow for political discussion but some members sadly continue to push out their political views in rugby-related threads.


I thought this thread was about our home kit, which, I believe has a nauseating 3 feathers logo at its very heart. Do you want to start a separate fashion thread to keep nasty social comments that you don't agree with from your and Ladram's sensitive eyes?


To be honest I was more referring to comments made about Brexit and ‘Westminster control’ than anything else, which Oracle tries to mention at any given opportunity. It’s a shame, because I tend to enjoy his contributions when he keeps the politics out of it.

As for your comments about the 3 feathers, I think it’s a daft thing to get so worked up about, however you are of course entitled to share your opinion on our Scarlets kit.
I think i remember that post vaguely.


Posted By: GPR - Rochester
Date Posted: 30 July 2023 at 6:59am
Originally posted by ladram ladram wrote:

Why does every thread turn political and drift into a theme about how hard done by us poor Welsh are this used to be a fun place to visit.Angry

It's because people voted for Westminster control , brexit  etc ....it's put us all in the poor house , and taken out community away ....everything is political 

Nigel you ask why - I think you have your answerWink


Posted By: bydder
Date Posted: 30 July 2023 at 10:31am
Originally posted by N14 N14 wrote:

Originally posted by Dai Guevara Dai Guevara wrote:

Originally posted by N14 N14 wrote:

Discussions in Scarlets General should be restricted to discussion about the Scarlets and all things Scarlet-related. It requires mental gymnastics to try to justify how Brexit, the Monarchy, the Tories and most other political issues have anything to do with Scarlets rugby. There are other sections of the forum which allow for political discussion but some members sadly continue to push out their political views in rugby-related threads.


I thought this thread was about our home kit, which, I believe has a nauseating 3 feathers logo at its very heart. Do you want to start a separate fashion thread to keep nasty social comments that you don't agree with from your and Ladram's sensitive eyes?


To be honest I was more referring to comments made about Brexit and ‘Westminster control’ than anything else, which Oracle tries to mention at any given opportunity. It’s a shame, because I tend to enjoy his contributions when he keeps the politics out of it.

As for your comments about the 3 feathers, I think it’s a daft thing to get so worked up about, however you are of course entitled to share your opinion on our Scarlets kit.
So its daft how us Welsh have been and still get treated badly by them???


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Posted By: Oracle
Date Posted: 30 July 2023 at 10:50am
I am refraining from posting any thoughts as the royalist lovers will end up  doing a Nigel farage ..cout cout


Posted By: GPR - Rochester
Date Posted: 30 July 2023 at 11:10am
I am refraining from posting any thoughts as the royalist lovers will end up  doing a Nigel farage ..cout cout

So disagreeing with Oracle = Royalist lovers. Thats one hell of a leap even for you Oracle. Perhaps quite correctly fellow forum members think its correct to post on relevant threads. We have a politics thread & feel free to open a royalist haters thread. 

Dai was perfectly Ok voicing his opinion on the new kit but quite how Brexit etc crept in alongside the poverty being introduced is beyond me. 


Posted By: Wil Chips
Date Posted: 30 July 2023 at 11:13am
There's no rugby GPR (or at least no Welsh rugby), thus it's 'open season' for baiting and exaggerated outrage.


Posted By: Oracle
Date Posted: 30 July 2023 at 11:40am
Well spotted Mr Chips Wink


Posted By: Realwest
Date Posted: 31 July 2023 at 6:49pm
I went to the club shop today I was wearing an all blacks shirt that fits perfectly it’s size X-Large

Went to try the new Scarlets shirt in size X-Large and it was tiny could barely get it on so went xxl still too small went xxxl and it fit but looked weird it was very short and was terrible.

Decided not to spend £70 on such a poor product and looked at the training kit horrible colours grey and a weird teal ???? And some strange burgundy rubbish.

Very disappointed with the kit and left the club without spending a penny. I want to help the club out and buy kit of some sort every year but won’t be spending my hard earned money on such rubbish.

Next season we should allow fans to have a crack at designing a shirt including material fit length and get other fans to vote on the best kit we can’t do much worse than this crap.


Posted By: Why
Date Posted: 31 July 2023 at 7:42pm
What is wrong with good old cotton comfortable reasonable and practicable. 

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Posted By: turkishrebel
Date Posted: 31 July 2023 at 8:16pm
Got to agree with you why. 

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Posted By: Wasp
Date Posted: 31 July 2023 at 8:40pm
When all the high street outlets like Crew, Fat Face, Next, Superdry, even Ralph Lauren, offer versions of the traditional cotton rugby shirt with a collar, it amazes me that we haven’t had one for sale for so long!



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Posted By: dr_martinov
Date Posted: 04 August 2023 at 6:09pm
Originally posted by dr_martinov dr_martinov wrote:

Originally posted by Seagultaf Seagultaf wrote:

Originally posted by pillory pillory wrote:

Originally posted by SA14 SA14 wrote:

Grateful for the cash but oil 4 wales logo looks so naff. I’ll avoid kits until they change. 

Same.
Venn diagram of prince feathers and being a walking ad for fossil fuels.

Oil 4 Wales is changing! We are becoming ‘Green 4 Wales’ over the next 12 months and this move will see us replacing fossil fuels with environmentally friendly alternatives.”


Date: June 2021  https://www.oil4wales.co.uk/green-4-wales/" rel="nofollow - https://www.oil4wales.co.uk/green-4-wales/

I think thats whats is called Green Washing!

Guess we know what colour the away kit is then.

Green it is! Looks nice, and I usually dislike green. 


Posted By: lofty evans
Date Posted: 18 August 2023 at 9:22pm
Got to say love the new kit especially the  West Wales outline. 

I'm getting the new green shirt shove the price....cost of living rubbish we all.live with ...wife loves me in green so no brainer 


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"All you have to decide is what to do with the time that is given to us"


Posted By: Wil Chips
Date Posted: 19 August 2023 at 8:17am
Originally posted by lofty evans lofty evans wrote:

Got to say love the new kit especially the  West Wales outline. 

I'm getting the new green shirt shove the price....cost of living rubbish we all.live with ...wife loves me in green so no brainer 



Go ‘ full kit’ then mate. You’ll have a good night.


Posted By: lofty evans
Date Posted: 22 August 2023 at 10:06pm
Originally posted by Wil Chips Wil Chips wrote:

Originally posted by lofty evans lofty evans wrote:

Got to say love the new kit especially the  West Wales outline. 

I'm getting the new green shirt shove the price....cost of living rubbish we all.live with ...wife loves me in green so no brainer 



Go ‘ full kit’ then mate. You’ll have a good night.

Thinking of it William of greater West Wales 


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In 1972, Roy Bergiers scored that try and said "that was for you lofty"

"All you have to decide is what to do with the time that is given to us"


Posted By: BrummieScarlet
Date Posted: 01 September 2023 at 4:37pm
Still waiting for my shirt, ordered JULY 28TH...... had limited communication with the shop, but still no shirt, still no update saying posted

This is pathetic and doesn't look good for the Scarlets, Castore, or the shop...


Posted By: Mr Lee91
Date Posted: 01 September 2023 at 10:54pm
Originally posted by BrummieScarlet BrummieScarlet wrote:

Still waiting for my shirt, ordered JULY 28TH...... had limited communication with the shop, but still no shirt, still no update saying posted

This is pathetic and doesn't look good for the Scarlets, Castore, or the shop...
If it’s posted they’d have a tracking number for it. Should have had an email notification saying it was posted with the tracking details as well



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Posted By: BrummieScarlet
Date Posted: 01 September 2023 at 11:18pm
Originally posted by Mr Lee91 Mr Lee91 wrote:

Originally posted by BrummieScarlet BrummieScarlet wrote:

Still waiting for my shirt, ordered JULY 28TH...... had limited communication with the shop, but still no shirt, still no update saying posted

This is pathetic and doesn't look good for the Scarlets, Castore, or the shop...

If it’s posted they’d have a tracking number for it. Should have had an email notification saying it was posted with the tracking details as well



Not even posted due to 'factory issues'...


Posted By: Wil Chips
Date Posted: 02 September 2023 at 7:35am
That’s down to Castore then. Poor.


Posted By: BrummieScarlet
Date Posted: 02 September 2023 at 9:17am
Originally posted by Wil Chips Wil Chips wrote:

That’s down to Castore then. Poor.


Yep, since I first contacted them, and they said it was a Computer issue, I have asked 3 times - when will it be posted......
Still waiting for an answer 3 weeks later, 4 weeks after ordering. Yes they have given me a 10% refund, but I want the damn shirt. Its funny the away one was released over a week later and I received that within a week..


Posted By: Wil Chips
Date Posted: 02 September 2023 at 10:35am
Originally posted by BrummieScarlet BrummieScarlet wrote:

Originally posted by Wil Chips Wil Chips wrote:

That’s down to Castore then. Poor.


Yep, since I first contacted them, and they said it was a Computer issue, I have asked 3 times - when will it be posted......
Still waiting for an answer 3 weeks later, 4 weeks after ordering. Yes they have given me a 10% refund, but I want the damn shirt. Its funny the away one was released over a week later and I received that within a week..


You can’t be the only one with this issue. I’d like to see the club put out a note about it I.e. apologise to those waiting on ordered merch, a detailed reason, and a commitment to when service is back to normal.

This stuff is so basic is pains to see some drama on it every season.


Posted By: SA14
Date Posted: 02 September 2023 at 3:45pm
Originally posted by Wil Chips Wil Chips wrote:

Originally posted by BrummieScarlet BrummieScarlet wrote:

Originally posted by Wil Chips Wil Chips wrote:

That’s down to Castore then. Poor.


Yep, since I first contacted them, and they said it was a Computer issue, I have asked 3 times - when will it be posted......
Still waiting for an answer 3 weeks later, 4 weeks after ordering. Yes they have given me a 10% refund, but I want the damn shirt. Its funny the away one was released over a week later and I received that within a week..


You can’t be the only one with this issue. I’d like to see the club put out a note about it I.e. apologise to those waiting on ordered merch, a detailed reason, and a commitment to when service is back to normal.

This stuff is so basic is pains to see some drama on it every season.

I was expecting better from Castore to be honest. They seem to be a premium company. Macron seem to be going from strength to strength, do these companies treat us less than other teams?


Posted By: Wil Chips
Date Posted: 02 September 2023 at 8:29pm
Castore are growing very quickly. This is only their 8th year of operation.
When you look who they now sponsor you could argue that their supply chain hasn’t kept step with their marketing team.



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