Itoje penalty v Ireland
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Topic: Itoje penalty v Ireland
Posted By: KID A
Subject: Itoje penalty v Ireland
Date Posted: 02 February 2025 at 12:01pm
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This penalty turned momentum for Ireland v Englnd, got them in the lead and they won the game. Possibly one of the worst penalty calls I have seen at test level in recent years. Or am I blind and the officials are correct?  
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Posted By: crj89
Date Posted: 02 February 2025 at 12:26pm
| Terrible decision. |
Posted By: ap sior
Date Posted: 02 February 2025 at 12:38pm
Didn’t see the game, what was the penalty for? Itoje did encroach in the middle of the line out, but I think the ball had gone over his head by then.
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crj89 wrote:Posted By: Raised By Peregos
Date Posted: 02 February 2025 at 12:41pm
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I'm assuming the ref blew for what he thought was a push on the lifted player by Itoje, but actually when you watch closely the Irish lifters cause their own player to move to the side. The front lifter doesn't engage properly. It's the Irish lifters getting it wrong. You could argue that Itoje is closing the gap yes, technically, but as said above, it's actually in consequential to what happens.
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Posted By: ap sior
Date Posted: 02 February 2025 at 12:50pm
Throw was clearly too high for the Irish jumper. As a result, Itoje's actions have no effect on the following action. Play on therefore to speed up the game. I've seen a pass from Sheehan to Lowe, clearly forward, and my first impression was that Lowe's pass for Beirne's try may also have been forward. I'd certainly have looked at it. Neutrals and English fans were also incensed that after O'Keefe warned the captains that the next player to escalate matters would see yellow, Lowe got away with escalating matters a short time later.
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Posted By: ap sior
Date Posted: 02 February 2025 at 12:52pm
Looking at it again, Beirne as lifter also closed the gap. Which therefore do you penalise ? Well the away team of course. Hope he doesn't ref us as the away side in Munster or Ulster.
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Posted By: Mogwen
Date Posted: 02 February 2025 at 12:54pm
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Both the push penalty and Lowe's retaliation in turn led to 2 tries. Poor again from O'Keefe. ------------- The only true wisdom is in knowing you know nothing. |
Posted By: Fscarlet
Date Posted: 02 February 2025 at 2:46pm
| Not that it matters but the touch judge gave the penalty. |
Posted By: Scrletsfan32x
Date Posted: 02 February 2025 at 2:48pm
| The call came from the touch judge but imo it was very harsh and changed the game. |
Posted By: ladram
Date Posted: 02 February 2025 at 3:06pm
| I would sacrifice a red for a smack on Lowe he is the most unlikeable player at the moment |
Posted By: Eastern outpost
Date Posted: 02 February 2025 at 6:54pm
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Posted By: Fscarlet
Date Posted: 03 February 2025 at 7:46am
Can't remember who said it but a professional player said if Lowe had played the game 15-20 years ago he would be battered at every ruck.
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Posted By: Why
Date Posted: 03 February 2025 at 9:12am
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That was a shocking decision that changed the momentum in the game. I know we were rubbish on Friday but I think we can give England a game at home. All depends on Gatland’s selection can see him going with Thomas and Tomkins in centre which will be 14 in a row. ------------- She asks why i still can't answer. I guess its in the blood. |
Posted By: SA14
Date Posted: 03 February 2025 at 9:26am
Yeh a lot of people think that. He just seems to have a smarmy smirk on his face all the time. As for the ref decision yeh very bizarre.
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