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Rugby has some funny Laws

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Topic: Rugby has some funny Laws
Posted By: insidehalf
Subject: Rugby has some funny Laws
Date Posted: 11 March 2025 at 1:37pm
Lying here in my hospital bed, I was thinking of the Scotland v Wales game on the weekend and in particular Faletau's try that wasn't given. I understood the explanation "that you can't jump up to avoid a tackle". But most players want to avoid tackles, unless you're playing a crash ball style of game, so you either beat the player or off load before you're tackled.
But I was thinking of other scenarios where 
1. A la Shane Williams you duck under the players arm thus avoiding a tackle and score.
2. A player picks up a ball at the base of a ruck and dives over the ruck (hopefully avoiding a tackle) and place the ball past the try to score. Thus avoiding other players standing on the goal line waiting to tackle you to try and stop you scoring.
3. Players on a wet pitch sliding in (without ball touching ground) a metre or two out and place the ball down once over the line, thus making it very hard to be tackled.
Just a thought (I've got a lot of spare time on my hands)



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Posted By: ap sior
Date Posted: 11 March 2025 at 1:58pm
Originally posted by insidehalf insidehalf wrote:

Lying here in my hospital bed, I was thinking of the Scotland v Wales game on the weekend and in particular Faletau's try that wasn't given. I understood the explanation "that you can't jump up to avoid a tackle". But most players want to avoid tackles, unless you're playing a crash ball style of game, so you either beat the player or off load before you're tackled.
But I was thinking of other scenarios where 
1. A la Shane Williams you duck under the players arm thus avoiding a tackle and score.
2. A player picks up a ball at the base of a ruck and dives over the ruck (hopefully avoiding a tackle) and place the ball past the try to score. Thus avoiding other players standing on the goal line waiting to tackle you to try and stop you scoring.
3. Players on a wet pitch sliding in (without ball touching ground) a metre or two out and place the ball down once over the line, thus making it very hard to be tackled.
Just a thought (I've got a lot of spare time on my hands)

I agree with your sentiments. For me, Blair jumped to avoid a tackle, he didn't jump into it. In addition, the Scottish player clearly makes contact with Blair.. I take it in future, if a player gets hold of one leg and the other is free, you'll get penalised if you jump to try and release the leg that is caught ???

Get well soon, and hope you'll be down the PyS before season's end.


Posted By: insidehalf
Date Posted: 11 March 2025 at 2:01pm
Unfortunately, due to my having to isolate once I leave hospital for quite a while, I won't be at a live game until next season. Cry


Posted By: roy munster
Date Posted: 11 March 2025 at 5:52pm
blair simply skipped out of an ankle tap....if thats outlawed then waht hope is there for a little guy with quick feet? Does his mean any time your ankle tapped you must fall to the ground or else youll be penalised? so pedantic utterly ruined what could have been the greatest comeback since rocky balboa decked apollo creed Tongue

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Posted By: Eastern outpost
Date Posted: 11 March 2025 at 8:44pm
Originally posted by insidehalf insidehalf wrote:

Unfortunately, due to my having to isolate once I leave hospital for quite a while, I won't be at a live game until next season. Cry
Sorry to hear that. Please add my best wishes for your recovery to those from ap sior.

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Posted By: aber-fan
Date Posted: 12 March 2025 at 11:02am
Originally posted by insidehalf insidehalf wrote:

Unfortunately, due to my having to isolate once I leave hospital for quite a while, I won't be at a live game until next season. Cry

Get well soon! 

Good discussion points, BTW... certainly there is a strong argument for allowing an 'evasive' jump like Murray's as opposed to a jump into the tacker which would be dangerous. 

In American football, players sometimes try to jump right over an incoming tackler, hurdling them - of course, it is risky mainly to the ball carrier (IMO) as if the tackler rises a bit to make contact, they are liable to fall on their heads from a great height - so definitely don't allow that. 

It's a bit surprising - and inconsistent - that jumping over ricks to score tries is allowed. Maybe it shouldn't be. 


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