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The only WRU club in the whole ide world is Cardif

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Topic: The only WRU club in the whole ide world is Cardif
Posted By: enquiries@bradshawwi
Subject: The only WRU club in the whole ide world is Cardif
Date Posted: 06 May 2025 at 10:23pm
Collier Keywood issues 48hr notice  to Scarlets Ospreys and Dragons  sign PRA with Cardiff given approx £2m more funding of other Regions, or Cardiff under new PRA and rest no additional funding and taking  equity for Covid loan off the table

So much to and end to Master Servant

I know what Lance Bayley and Y10 will be



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Posted By: Blade
Date Posted: 06 May 2025 at 11:30pm
Divide and conquer. It’s like Roger Lewis is back at the Welsh rugby towers! 


Posted By: Wasp
Date Posted: 06 May 2025 at 11:36pm
Originally posted by Blade Blade wrote:

Divide and conquer. It’s like Roger Lewis is back at the Welsh rugby towers! 
He has been


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Posted By: Eastern outpost
Date Posted: 07 May 2025 at 6:27am
Originally posted by Wasp Wasp wrote:

Originally posted by Blade Blade wrote:

Divide and conquer. It’s like Roger Lewis is back at the Welsh rugby towers! 
He has been
The architect of its downfall feels the need to put the boot in more, it would seem.

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Posted By: Why
Date Posted: 07 May 2025 at 7:18am
As long as Cardiff ok it’s not a problem, pathetic  people running a corrupt and mismanaged organisation.
Why should three sign something that puts them at a disadvantage to Cardiff bonkers mad let’s call their bluff I say. 


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She asks why i still can't answer. I guess its in the blood.


Posted By: dantheman
Date Posted: 07 May 2025 at 8:02am
So am I understanding this correctly. 

Cardiff go bust, so the WRU decide to: a) bail them out and then ask the other three regions benefactors for more money b) spend more money on Cardiff than the others, c) create a situation where Cardiff are bidding for (and therefore increasing the wages of) players from the other three regions and d) initiate some very ropey governance in which the Chair of the PRB owns one of the entities which form it. 

I have no issues with keeping Cardiff afloat but it should be with the necessary cost cutting initiated so the other three who have received millions from benefactors over the years don't face a reduction in their funding. 

The WRU don't seem to understand the basics of moral hazard, in the context of Cardiff. A 'wont fail' attitude to their existence will not attract the quality of benefactors which they ultimately want to take it from their hands. A benefactor could quite easily do another Helford Capital with absolutely no consequence for them or they entity they invest in. 


Posted By: lofty evans
Date Posted: 08 May 2025 at 7:36am
The WRU are banzai outfit from Hacksaw Ridge ....absolutely a laughing dad's Army outfit....take them on , the players have the power not the Union....screw the Union.




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Posted By: Trostre Parc Boy
Date Posted: 08 May 2025 at 6:42pm
Any heard anything regarding the new agreement that needs to be signed by midnight tonight?


Posted By: SA14
Date Posted: 08 May 2025 at 7:26pm
They’d save any region in the same predicament. 


Posted By: Why
Date Posted: 08 May 2025 at 8:00pm
[QUOTE=SA14]They’d save any region in the same
😂😂😂😂😂😂


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Posted By: Mogwen
Date Posted: 08 May 2025 at 8:29pm
Originally posted by SA14 SA14 wrote:

They’d save any region in the same predicament. 

As long as they started with "C" ended in "iff" and had "ard" in the middle. One one regions would have been supported this way

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Posted By: ladram
Date Posted: 08 May 2025 at 8:34pm
[QUOT

=SA14]They’d save any region in the same predicament. [/QUOTE]
You really don't help yourself 😭


Posted By: Wil Chips
Date Posted: 08 May 2025 at 9:08pm
Originally posted by SA14 SA14 wrote:

They’d save any region in the same predicament. 


Scarlets?
Nope, not even a 1% chance.
Clearly stated that it was unconscionable not to have a team in the capital city. No other reasoning offered.


Posted By: Gate12
Date Posted: 08 May 2025 at 10:29pm
They were asked whether they'd do the same for the other teams. 

And their answer was they'd treat each case on it's own merits.

The fawning over the capital was completely OTT.




Posted By: Trostre Parc Boy
Date Posted: 08 May 2025 at 11:05pm
1 hour to go!
Tick Tok, Tick Tok.


Posted By: aber-fan
Date Posted: 09 May 2025 at 7:09am
Originally posted by dantheman dantheman wrote:

So am I understanding this correctly. 

Cardiff go bust, so the WRU decide to: a) bail them out and then ask the other three regions benefactors for more money b) spend more money on Cardiff than the others, c) create a situation where Cardiff are bidding for (and therefore increasing the wages of) players from the other three regions and d) initiate some very ropey governance in which the Chair of the PRB owns one of the entities which form it. 

I have no issues with keeping Cardiff afloat but it should be with the necessary cost cutting initiated so the other three who have received millions from benefactors over the years don't face a reduction in their funding. 

The WRU don't seem to understand the basics of moral hazard, in the context of Cardiff. A 'wont fail' attitude to their existence will not attract the quality of benefactors which they ultimately want to take it from their hands. A benefactor could quite easily do another Helford Capital with absolutely no consequence for them or they entity they invest in. 

On the face of it, this seems pretty disgraceful from the WRU.


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Posted By: GPR - Rochester
Date Posted: 09 May 2025 at 7:58am
Originally posted by aber-fan aber-fan wrote:

Originally posted by dantheman dantheman wrote:

So am I understanding this correctly. 

Cardiff go bust, so the WRU decide to: a) bail them out and then ask the other three regions benefactors for more money b) spend more money on Cardiff than the others, c) create a situation where Cardiff are bidding for (and therefore increasing the wages of) players from the other three regions and d) initiate some very ropey governance in which the Chair of the PRB owns one of the entities which form it. 

I have no issues with keeping Cardiff afloat but it should be with the necessary cost cutting initiated so the other three who have received millions from benefactors over the years don't face a reduction in their funding. 

The WRU don't seem to understand the basics of moral hazard, in the context of Cardiff. A 'wont fail' attitude to their existence will not attract the quality of benefactors which they ultimately want to take it from their hands. A benefactor could quite easily do another Helford Capital with absolutely no consequence for them or they entity they invest in. 

On the face of it, this seems pretty disgraceful from the WRU.

Absolutely spot on summation. Thumbs Up


Posted By: Why
Date Posted: 09 May 2025 at 8:18am
I have a huge problem with WRU keeping Cardiff alive they have proved they can’t attract sponsors or people who will bankroll the club despite being in the richest part of Wales. It appears that the Cardiff board and WRU are cut from the same cloth.
What they want the other three regions to do is to accept less money to keep them afloat.
They did the same for the Dragons surely East Wales has proved they can’t run two clubs, the only fair thing to do is merge the two busted flushes and go to three regions with the East Wales Wasters being the 3rd region. 
Simple really but won’t happen because it’s Cardiff disgrace,  I wish we could just pack up and leave the cancer that is the WRU. 


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Posted By: RR1972
Date Posted: 09 May 2025 at 8:24am
dan the man and why are spot on.  i have it from a reliable source that the other 3 regions have been told regardless of abything there will always be a professional rugby team in cardiff


Posted By: Scrletsfan32x
Date Posted: 09 May 2025 at 8:25am
Deadline has come and gone, I wonder if the regions have called the WRU’s bluff.


Posted By: GPR - Rochester
Date Posted: 09 May 2025 at 9:12am
The problem for us & the other two regions has been spelt out by Wasp on many occasions. The WRU hold all the financial cards.


Posted By: KID A
Date Posted: 09 May 2025 at 9:18am
What's the corporate term for constructive dismissal? Because that's what this potentially is.

If he notice is served for 3 teams, then effectively the governing body seems to have constructively schemed to keep Cardiff and Dragons afloat and in business and leave 1 place to be scrapped out for among us and the Ospreys. I can't see how that would stand legally.


Posted By: skyblue
Date Posted: 09 May 2025 at 9:26am
Originally posted by GPR - Rochester GPR - Rochester wrote:

The problem for us & the other two regions has been spelt out by Wasp on many occasions. The WRU hold all the financial cards.
If they serve notice on the regions, do the existing terms and conditions apply for the full two years? Could they start lowering funding to one region and increasing it to another?


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Posted By: dantheman
Date Posted: 09 May 2025 at 9:40am
The WRU are hardly covering themselves in glory with their Head Coach appt. Tandy seemed to be appointed and now the new DoR has come in and basically wants to start the process all over again. Don't blame him because if Tandy was the best candidate then there was something fundamentally flawed with it. 

At least their predecessors had a bit of conviction about them, this lot are just a bumbling mess caught between trying to appease everyone in a public sector style versus a more hard nosed commercial approach. They can't deliver the later and it's not the time for the former. 


Posted By: Lincscarlet
Date Posted: 09 May 2025 at 9:44am
Dragons bailed out, Cardiff bailed out….yet when Ospreys looked like going pop there was no bailout the WRU were plenty happy for them to merge with Scarlets……I’ve always been amazed that Cardiff can’t get a stonking great budget together and compete with the top spenders. I know they fill the arms park sometimes but Cardiff City get 20k gates in the second tier of football so 10-12k for the rugby isn’t all that really.

Iirc there have been 21 Celtic/pro12/14/urc champions trophies between its inception in 2003 and to date, and 5 of those have been won by the west wales teams. The only trophies in the east are about 18 wooden spoons in Newport and a silver plated gravy boat in Cardiff (joke!). 

I think - and I’m probably wrong but hear me out- the WRU would rather have one team with a huge budget and all the top players and success (like Leinster) and the other 3 to be low budget feeder teams. I’ve often wondered about the drive for a north wales franchise, I get it’s a big catchment area but is there outside funding available from the welsh assembly etc if they send a franchise up there? Is that a driver? Also a ‘new’ region would just be happy to be getting funding and be a feeder club, they wouldn’t complain about it needing to be fair like the established regions. 

I’ll take my tin foil hat off now, thanks for reading my ramblings! 


Posted By: John
Date Posted: 09 May 2025 at 9:48am
Originally posted by KID A KID A wrote:

What's the corporate term for constructive dismissal? Because that's what this potentially is.

If he notice is served for 3 teams, then effectively the governing body seems to have constructively schemed to keep Cardiff and Dragons afloat and in business and leave 1 place to be scrapped out for among us and the Ospreys. I can't see how that would stand legally.

It wouldn't. One of the ironies of this is that the previous Cardiff regime ( who caused this mess by selling to Helford) were very vociferous about the special treatment that the Dragons received....

It's all gone quiet over there....


Posted By: Scrletsfan32x
Date Posted: 09 May 2025 at 10:55am
Scarlets and Ospreys haven’t met the deadline to sign the new agreement. Dragons have signed


Posted By: skyblue
Date Posted: 09 May 2025 at 10:59am
Originally posted by Scrletsfan32x Scrletsfan32x wrote:

Scarlets and Ospreys haven’t met the deadline to sign the new agreement. Dragons have signed
Who leaked that information to the Wales online I wonder?


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Posted By: dantheman
Date Posted: 09 May 2025 at 11:18am
Originally posted by Scrletsfan32x Scrletsfan32x wrote:

Scarlets and Ospreys haven’t met the deadline to sign the new agreement. Dragons have signed

This is a bit concerning to be honest, understand why we've not signed but I'd be worried about a shoot out between us and the Ospreys as to who remains. 

The Dragons are just leeches. 


Posted By: Wil Chips
Date Posted: 09 May 2025 at 11:21am
A good old fashioned Mexican stand off seems in order then.


If it wasn't our national sport it'd be quite fun.


Posted By: Mr Ian
Date Posted: 09 May 2025 at 11:51am
Ennio Morricine s music is playing in this moment.
I m not surprised about it.


Posted By: Raised By Peregos
Date Posted: 09 May 2025 at 11:55am
Llanelli and Swansea join the Gallagher Prem??

(half a joke)


Posted By: skyblue
Date Posted: 09 May 2025 at 12:15pm
Originally posted by Raised By Peregos Raised By Peregos wrote:

Llanelli and Swansea join the Gallagher Prem??

(half a joke)
If the WRU trigger the closing process... Do they have to continue the current funding for the two year period? 
Because to compete in the English Premiership you're going to need serious investment.


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Posted By: Eastern outpost
Date Posted: 09 May 2025 at 12:21pm
WRU breach contract once again and seek to escape without remedy to the injured parties.

How many other times has this happened in the past?


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Posted By: skyblue
Date Posted: 09 May 2025 at 12:30pm
Originally posted by Eastern outpost Eastern outpost wrote:

WRU breach contract once again and seek to escape without remedy to the injured parties.

How many other times has this happened in the past?
There'll be all this crying over spilt milk now, I'm sorry I'm not going to indulge in that... And you know why? Because I'm bloody FUMING that it has come to this.


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Posted By: RR1972
Date Posted: 09 May 2025 at 12:39pm
gwent scabs sold us down the river



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