I'm really not sure about Carter, I'd have thought Thomas or Ratti would be better options

Asiratti chosen based on........answers on a postcard

The backline, how much longer do we have to endure the Ben Thomas experiment? JBW would be better at 12 with Roberts at 13. Adams, we need some experience in the team but his form has been awful for about 3 years 

What hope does he have when playing outside Ben Thomas

Adams?

Mann?

Belcher?

Not so bothered by that as it means Ryan can have a whole off season.

This is what the WRU and the smug aresholes in Cardiff have done to me.

This selection reminds of school boy selection where the coach picks his local boys to the detriment of the team absolutely pathetic. 

I’m done with Welsh rugby I’m off to learn the Japanese anthem. 

Just hope the Scarlet boys come through with no injuries. 

I think you are right.  This Cardiff bias is all the doing of the WRU due to the ongoing debacle that is Cardiff Rugby and the fact that they are currently paying 100% of the wages of Cardiff players (and Sherratt).

It’s incredible to think that a team that has failed to finish in the playoff places and to qualify for Europe for so many years has some many players picked to start for the national team.

I too have very little interest in the national team but do hope that the scarlets players come away unscathed (with their reputations still in tact.

I think in a 50/50 Sherratt will go with what he knows but show me a coach that wouldn't? 

Ben Thomas - been playing at 12 for a while, like it or not. (I don't really). 

Adams - we have precious little experience in the backline, and tbh, the other option is Giles, or you through Macs in or Whinnett (Cardiff again). We REALLY need to win this game. 

Assirati - Look, I don't see it either BUT Melon and Bomb are both out there. If they can't pick a good prop I don't know who can. Griffin has come back from injury and not played much, and the other TH is the untried or tested Chris Coleman.

Teddy Williams - deserves his place. 

Alex Mann - I baulked at this too until I read Sherratt's comments about wanting to play the conditions and spread the experience through the team. BUT not sure what Plumtree's not involved (maybe some kind of knock will come out). This is the real odd selection I guess. But then again, I thought he acquitted himself quite well when he played for Wales and he is a former U20 Captain so, in reality, we always talk about bringing the players through, so he would be a case in point. There are always some players that coaches see things day in day out that the fans don't. 

Liam Belcher - IMHO deserves his shot. I always enjoy watching him play. 100%er. 

The sheer embarrassment of seeing our  National team  put to the sword by England by point 60pts AT HOME, is  in itself stomach churning.

Seventeen losses on the trot 

7-19 to Wales ATM - tries for Thomas and Rogers, plus penalty try for slapping the ball out to stop Adams scoring. 

Hardy having a really poor game, as is Assiratti. Wales benefiting from a lot of poor handling by Japan - so far. Thomas a silly kick against the back line a man short from their YC following pen try. 

Faletau excellent, macleod good. 

Agree about Hardy. This is how I remember him when everyone bangs on about having him back. There’s good reason why he’s not even first choice at the Ospreys. Our halfbacks look poor together tbh. 

Back row and back three going well.  

Ben Carter off after 27s with a head or neck injury - worrying. 

Scrums a bit odd, with Smith on top on one side and Assiratti suffering on the other. 

First try - Faletau loops around the back of a lineout and gives Thomas a scoring pass.

Second try - against a man short in their back line, slick handling to Rogers and he takes the outside - good try.

Japan try - Thomas up too late, Williams too far back. Good hands by Japan. 

Pen try - kick ahead slapped over dead ball line by Japan as Adams looks to score. Josh made the poiint vigorously to the ref, and it was awarded after a TMO check.

TMO also checked a Japan 'try' which ref disallowed for 'held up' by Thomas.. maybe we got a bit lucky there.

Earlier, a Japan player knocked the ball back into play from 1.5m off the pitch and they were allowed to play on unti it was corrected.

Fair play, he's been the outstanding player for Wales! Wainwright on for the last quarter in his place.

(Forgot to mention how poor the Wales lineout has been - again.)

Forward pass, but pen awarded.

Was that the same for the rest of the match?

No ambition showed in second half, and terrible lineout play cost us some possible tries from 5m lines.

That half was really poor after a decent first half.

He only had 20 min or so - Faletau was superb before that. Wainwright came on just as the tide started to turn in Japan's favour.

Reap what you lot sowed you gargoyles 

Yep.

Who did play well individually and in combination?

Any penalties to go two scores ahead from 7-19 spurned for line outs?

But on the positive RR Japan has lovely views and superb trees and Koi Carp hope the players and WRU enjoy the sight seeing tours.

Although the ground hext to the sea was very appealing 

Don’t think Wainwright is the same player since his bad injury. We butchered a couple of line outs in their 22 from penalties but at the time we seemed on top and probably needed one more try to close the game off- obviously didn’t happen. First half discipline very good second half Mann gave away at least 2 soft penalties- think he was just knackered and we started shipping scrum penalties when Belcher came on. Hardy was so slow getting the ball away and really frustrated the ref who gave Japan a fair bit of leeway around the breakdown . I don’t think anyone played particularly well but some odd flashes from Blair and Tommy .A dire last 30 minutes.

2 years for downturn abbey and still 0% 

What is the mechanism for sending her back to the home office ?

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Players of genuine international quality on show today. This is what we've become. This is where we are going. 

Her and Dickie Double Barrell's inability to make decisions about rugby issues over two years have compounded the problems that have been there for years. They may well have improved the organisations systemic problems of bullying, mysogeny and homophobia but have comprehensively been out of their depth as regards rugby. When they finally made a decision it created the schism of E v W which may, under the currentv set up, be fatal. We need to start from scratch - beginning with all the board members and START (optimism) with two pro teams and a completely new organisation. 

And this is, basically, a French development team...God help us.

10 & 13 as well - at international level Costelow isn't up to it, who knows with Dan Edwards; Roberts (meh) Page(?). Who else?

Roger Lewis, Steve Phillips and all the blazer hangers on who have prevented the WRU from developing a professional organisation in favour of their freebies since 1996.

10 is a issue for Wales. We don't have one. 

He was part of the problem 

And Pivac? It’s a mish mash of everything but people solely blamed Gatland. The shoddy WRU and their amateur running of the game in wales are mainly to blame. We’re on our 3rd coaching team and still rubbish. A chef cant make a lovely meal with pooee ingredients. 

Yes, debating backs is daft when the elephant in the room is 1-8. No team gets anywhere without consistent set-piece, carrying and retention. Our current forwards would struggle against most Welsh SR teams. Lack of consistent strategy/selection from coaching teams doesn't help either.

After Japan's penalty second half, we conceded a very soft penalty allowing them out of their 22 and they won a line out on half way. 

After the penalty and when the players were running to the halfway line, the message should have been clear. Put some pressure on, but DON"T concede a penalty.

One of many daft decisions by the player/s. We just don't seem to learn. This appeared to be an in experienced referee. If he wanted to impress he was going to blow his whistle. A more experienced ref would allow the game to flow.

The beauty of a great chef/ coach is making plain ingredients into something better. There's a lot of issues going on here in Wales, apathy and unrest and losing your job after years of dreaming doesn't bode well for good performances. 

Every player whoever they are are affected by the disaster that is unfolding in.the Welsh rugby scene. To suggest anybody paid well or not are going to lift themselves to different levels when all around them is a pooshow is beyond me. 

Let's be truthful here it would take an inspirational and talented coach to bring out the best in the current Welsh set up.

The current one because he coaches the Blues is given lots of slack but if Tandy takes over it will get worse. 

Players and everyone reading this needs to feel valued and respected and this Nation has zero tolerance to anything other than exceptional. 

Somethings are clear as day and somethings are as clear as mud....we are where we are because the WRU for all their press releases and hordes at the National stadium really believe the WRU have invested in regional rugby at incredible levels and for some unknown reason the Welsh hillsides and valleys cannot produce World class players.

For me it's an absolute cope out and not addressing the root cause ....the real root cause of this decline . Like everything that exists on this planet if it's not watered and fed and cared for it will wither and die.

And the WRU have starved their seedlings. 

The conditions surely must dictate that having two clear headed half backs to finish the game was imperative. Hardy was out on his feet. The Welsh scrum was under a lot of pressure & in reality if Japan had got their game on the field sooner the gap would have been more. 

15: Murray - one of the better players

14: Rogers - same although missed tackle for the try.

13: Roberts - Play a 13 at 13.

12: J Williams - Play a 12 at 12 who can get over the mainline *see point below

11: Page - no reason NOT to give him a shot at this point. 

10: Edwards - Playing the Ospreys first choice half-backs. They've done well this season. 

9: Morgan-Williams - Playing the Ospreys first choice half-backs. They've done well this season.

8: Faletau - obvs

7: MacLeod - thought he played well. Was surprised he and not Mann went off. 

6: Plumtree - need dog (and line out), even accounting for the brain farts. 

5: T Williams - best of the second rows on tour.

4: F Thomas - Played 1338 minutes for one of Prem's top sides.

3: Griffin - scrum more solid when he came on and made a few charges. Looked gassed after 10 mins mind.

2: Lake - best of a bad bunch at the moment.

1: Smith - close call with Thomas. 

Thomas - Ditto

Dee - can hit his line out jumpers

Assiratti /Coleman - who knows, who cares?

Wainwright - what's gone wrong with him?

Reffell - only other 7

Ratti - can cover lock and back row

Hardy - can cover SH and wing

B Thomas - can cover rest of backline.

* Will Greenwood pre-Lions game - 2 rules for a 12: 1st rule, win the gainline battle. 2nd rule... you've guessed it. 

The balance of the team was awful, with players being played out of position, an over representation of Cardiff players (and coaches) and players who should never be anywhere near an international team.

Some on here are right, the WRU will try to use this to spin the yarn that we need to reduce the number of regions to either 2 or 3.  This will not improve us it will just shrink the talent pool by reducing the playing opportunity for the young players coming through.

If we reduce the number of teams and Cardiff are protected then the very players who we claim shouldn’t be anywhere near the international field will still be playing regional rugby and taking the places of up and coming players (and a hefty amount of what little funding the regions get).

Remember Derek Quinell pushing people out of way to get on as sub to earn first Welsh cap. 

Belcher and Asseratti to name just two don’t deserve to be called international players and stand along side people like Derek who would have died for cause.

Far too easy to be capped especially by this Cardiff clown running show for WRU.

Pathetic and inexcusable. 

Not to pick the best centre pairing in Wales for last month of season and playing one out of position just to give his man another go is just typical of his pathetic mind set. 

A couple of years ago you wouldn't have been surprised at him getting a place on the Lions squad. I read somewhere he's been in a team that has lost 40+ games on the trot. Dave Parade and Wales has destroyed him. He needs a rest and to cross the Severn Bridge/Channel to regain the level he's capable of achieving.

Not just Cardiff players. On todays performances you can add a Scarlet to your list as well.

Unfortunately Sherratt is not a good coach, as has been shown with the Blues and Wales. Yet the WRU want him to lead a Super region, what a waste that will be.

The WRU should be ashamed of themselves,vyhey are not fit gor purpose, with the decisions they are making. SHAMBLES.

We don't really have better players left at home though, do we?