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Topic: Wales Women World Cup
Posted By: Raised By Peregos
Subject: Wales Women World Cup
Date Posted: 21 August 2025 at 12:23pm
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I know it's probably furthest from most people's minds right now, but despite the WRU being you-know-whats I still want to support the actual players.This, for my money, is the strongest 23 we've put out for a game in many a year. That bench, Lockwood aside, could be starters on any other day. Wales Women v Scotland Women 15 Nel Metcalfe (Gloucester/Hartpury) Replacements: 16 Carys Phillips (Harlequins) |
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Posted By: GPR - Rochester
Date Posted: 21 August 2025 at 12:35pm
| Heartfelt congrats to Maisie Davies on the bench front row at 19. Her grandparents who are great supporters of fever tours will be over the moon. |
Posted By: Raised By Peregos
Date Posted: 21 August 2025 at 12:45pm
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I think she would've pushes Gwenllian close for that starting spot. I'd argue both front rows (team and bench) are evenly matched. Maisie and Alaw have been fantastic.
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Posted By: GPR - Rochester
Date Posted: 21 August 2025 at 1:02pm
Excellent - thanks RBP.
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Raised By Peregos wrote:Posted By: tim d
Date Posted: 21 August 2025 at 4:26pm
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Thanks Gareth . Although she’s getting on a bit now as she was 20 last week. ------------- I'm sick of it |
Posted By: Eastern outpost
Date Posted: 21 August 2025 at 6:29pm
------------- In a world where you can be anything – Be Kind. |
Posted By: Wil Chips
Date Posted: 22 August 2025 at 7:41am
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Wales' aspiration will be to get out of the group. Seemed pretty hopeless after the 6N, but the win down under has shown there's talent in the group. All sorts of records for women's rugby going to be broken in this year's tournament. 82k sell out at Twickers for the final included. |
Posted By: GPR - Rochester
Date Posted: 22 August 2025 at 9:05am
Great to see.
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Posted By: John
Date Posted: 22 August 2025 at 10:55am
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In the midst of all the other chaos, its worth observing that there are no players based in Wales in the 23. Best of luck and play well v the Scots.... time for a win against another 6 nations side.
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Posted By: RR1972
Date Posted: 22 August 2025 at 11:28am
| on the new suggestion of two pro womens teams of 40 players, who will they be playing against? a urc womens lge is there? or they going to be in snglo welsh lge? |
Posted By: RR1972
Date Posted: 22 August 2025 at 11:29am
| what time and chanell is the scotland game on? |
Posted By: Wil Chips
Date Posted: 22 August 2025 at 11:50am
BBC 1 at 14.45pm tomorrow boss.... |
Posted By: Wil Chips
Date Posted: 22 August 2025 at 11:50am
Wrong thread chief. |
Posted By: RR1972
Date Posted: 22 August 2025 at 11:54am
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Posted By: steve evans
Date Posted: 22 August 2025 at 2:58pm
Must admit, I did puzzle about were female centraly contracted players will get game time - especially as all the players are contracte to English clubs. Another not thought through / explained idea. However, how long do we believe it will take the WRU to respond to any result ? Becaus if the results are not great - "that's the reason we need change to turn things around ........." or If results are good "thats the reason why we need change to invest in our sucess ......."
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Posted By: Wil Chips
Date Posted: 22 August 2025 at 6:58pm
We've got a stack of threads about the future shape of the game, regions, budgets, stadiums, teams etc. Can't we keep this one to purely rugby? |
Posted By: scarletpimp
Date Posted: 22 August 2025 at 11:07pm
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I think the main focus ATM, is what happens now tomorrow, not the vague possibility of two future teams based in Wales, and where they will,play. This is a VITAL game, not just for Wales world cup aspirations, but the future development of the game in Wales. Young girls aspiring to play the game, are more Iikely to take up rugby if those showcasing the national game are successful on the international stage. My own daughter had her WRU severed, after are prolonged injury, this after she gave up a budding teaching career to play for her country. My own advice to any young person with interlect , and the possibility of a professional career in anything...is not to think of rugby as a short-term alternative. The bright lights dazzle, but they soon grow dim, and eventually go out. Those without any academic aspirations, may have less to lose. After saying all of that , I'm will be behind the girls 100 %, and will be watching from the Wanderers clubhouse, where I can candidly also keep.an eye on the Wanderers v Swansea ( friendly). Congratulations to Masie Davies ( granddaughter if our own TD). Hope , she makes a great impact off a strong bench ------------- I stood yer on tanner bank |
Posted By: reesytheexile
Date Posted: 23 August 2025 at 1:04am
Well said Pimp. Yes sad re your daughter and the family. As you wisely advise keep your escape parachute open. Even more challenging for the young women to have the non playing option up their sleeves. Big duty now rests on the WRU and the two clubs housing a woman’s team to run training and education outside the playing field and it doesn’t help that young people think that they are invincible!
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Posted By: Wil Chips
Date Posted: 23 August 2025 at 8:23am
| England looked very strong - 69-7 against USA. A game they were expected to win of course, but that was quite emphatic. |
Posted By: scarletpimp
Date Posted: 23 August 2025 at 10:13am
If England don't win this tournament, I will regularly be selected for the Wanderers for the rest of the season..  England were excellent, but USA disappointing. As for Maher, a talented player(Iwatched her at Bristol), but her ridiculous Tik Tok following underlined the shallowness of today's society.." all froth and no substance" ------------- I stood yer on tanner bank |
Posted By: GPR - Rochester
Date Posted: 23 August 2025 at 10:54am
| Good luck today to the Welsh ladies. The aim has to be qualifying for knock out stages which will be a achievement indeed. |
Posted By: Wil Chips
Date Posted: 23 August 2025 at 11:33am
Yep-this is pretty much the game that decides that. |
Posted By: Raised By Peregos
Date Posted: 23 August 2025 at 11:59am
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Yup. Today is the final for us. Forget everything else. Thought England players celebrating tries when they were 50 points up was a bit tasteless. But then I thing there is far too much over-celebration in rugby full-stop. It's difficult in the women's game to watch England be so superior; on the one hand I'm pleased that the money and structures are in place for them to flourish, but on the other hand it puts them so far ahead of everyone else.
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Posted By: scarletpimp
Date Posted: 23 August 2025 at 12:49pm
Wise Mr Peregoes, speaks well. I know several England players, my daughters former teammates., and I wish them success. Great modest, talented individuals The problem however, as highlighted above is the ridiculous one sided nature of the competition .Only one or two sides in contention. A bit like Premier League Football, almost a league within a league. Let's forget that ..... " COME ON WALES, LETS GET THIS VITAL WIN" ------------- I stood yer on tanner bank |
Posted By: roy munster
Date Posted: 23 August 2025 at 2:28pm
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pob lwc wales ------------- ROYMOND MUNTER MBE (FOR SERVICES TO THE COMBOVER) |
Posted By: RR1972
Date Posted: 23 August 2025 at 3:04pm
| why are wales so small? our age group sides are small , our mens sides are small and even our women look under sized. this scottish number 2 looks a handful |
Posted By: Wil Chips
Date Posted: 23 August 2025 at 3:33pm
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Scotland's defensive alignments are spot on. Their back row are well ahead, |
Posted By: gaffer
Date Posted: 23 August 2025 at 4:14pm
Selection & coaching has been laughable for a while now. Back row is all wrong, centres are hopeless, smallest second rows I've ever seen. Huge bias towards Glos-Hartpury where Welsh players look good only because of the quality English players around them. Jobs for the boys appointments all round. It's Wales - we shouldn't expect anything different. Let's just shut up shop, (RIP professional rugby c2019) and remember the good times. ------------- What's going on? |
Posted By: Wil Chips
Date Posted: 23 August 2025 at 4:29pm
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Scotland well organised with everyone knowing what their role is. Wales huffed and puffed but most of the time took the ball standing still or drifted laterally. No real X factor on show. Scotland's back row faster, bigger and more athletic. Callender worked hard at 8, but not no one much else shone. Mountain to climb. |
Posted By: Legendinmybathroom
Date Posted: 23 August 2025 at 4:41pm
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And the WRU want to fund them at the expense of regional rugby, and get them to play in wales where there will be little meaningful opposition and they will regress even more, sums up the WRUs blueprint for rugby, destroy woman’s and men’s rugby in one go. RIP welsh rugby.
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Posted By: ladram
Date Posted: 23 August 2025 at 4:41pm
| Wow that was really poor |
Posted By: RR1972
Date Posted: 23 August 2025 at 4:46pm
| grim times for welsh rugby at all levels |
Posted By: insidehalf
Date Posted: 23 August 2025 at 4:49pm
| Scotland looked really prepared for this game, Wales looked as if they just met in the car park for the first time this morning. |
Posted By: RR1972
Date Posted: 23 August 2025 at 4:51pm
the aussie result i thought was a turning point, the last two games though
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Posted By: Why
Date Posted: 23 August 2025 at 4:53pm
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How can they justify paying professional money to rugby players who can’t do the basics, doesn’t matter if it’s men or women. The last couple of minutes of the first half summed it up for me, the fly half kicked the ball about 5 yards meaning the lineout was 15 metres out not five. We then got possession and instead of someone straightening up they just passed the ball down the line and the centre ran into defenders then into touch.If that happened in a school game you wouldn’t be happy as a coach. A lot of these ladies play at the top of the game in England how do they look so poor when playing for Wales. Oh and yes most of them are not fit that is clear. And before anyone accuses me of being sexist please read my previous posts where I have defended the ladies game.
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Posted By: Raised By Peregos
Date Posted: 23 August 2025 at 5:06pm
I agree, they played well that game. Very very disappointing. Scotland thoroughly deserved it. A couple of contributing factors: - Hannah Jones defensive reads are awful. I genuinely don't know what one could list as her strengths. Cox at 13 from now on. - Thought Lleucu (except her kicking for touch) and Kiera were poor today at HB - too slow of foot and thought. - The back play was just slowly ship the ball down the line. When we did something different we actually got line breaks. - Missed lineouts hurt us again, both hookers. - Beth Lewis late tackle was ridiculous and was a direct reason (territory) that gave them the opportunity to kill off the game. - Crabb YC dubious for me. Her forearm may have grazed the player's chin. Penalty tops for me. Again losing a player for that period of the game hurt. We just didn't turn up. We looked a second behind everything. I really did think we had turned a corner but all the old issues were there. Outside of this 23 I'm not sure who there is really to bring in. I'm a fan of Gwennan Hopkins but she wasn't deemed good enough to make the squad. We lack size, but there simply aren't the players around who are bigger. I thought Picton-Powell played well in the league last year but hasn't been selected either. |
Posted By: Ben10thomas
Date Posted: 23 August 2025 at 6:10pm
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Totally outclassed today by a better coached side, and a side full of better players sadly. I cannot see how we can make two professional sides out of this squad.
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Posted By: Legendinmybathroom
Date Posted: 23 August 2025 at 7:05pm
This should become one of the bargaining chips that the scarlets, ospreys and dragons and all stakeholders should be using in their discussions with the incompetent WRU. There is no way that one or two regions should go out of existence to save the blues and fund 2 professional women’s teams, when it isn’t even clear what league they are going to play in. A lot of today’s players play in arguably the best league in the world but looked completely out of their depth, if playing in the English Premiership can’t help turn them into Scotland beaters what hope would they have of improving as players if they were playing in a welsh or Celtic league competition. Up next Canada
, it could get extremely ugly, but hey, the WRU will reward them with 2 professional teams and Cardiff for going bust. |
Posted By: scarletpimp
Date Posted: 23 August 2025 at 7:07pm
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I am fortunate today. I went to stradey to see Wanderers take on Swansea in pre season friendly. Could have stayed home and watched the Wales v Scotland game. Whereas Wanderers put up an excellent showing against semi - pro opponents ( losing 21-31), Wales women were abysmal in the extreme. Many on Scarletfever know that I am a champion of the women's game, not just because my daughter played until a year last Jan( sadly seriously injured with ACL), but the fact that girls and young women can be inspired to do somthing with their lives in a situation previously male dominated. I have watched the development of the Women's game, and becoming professional was, one thought , the " crossing of the Rubicon". How wrong could we be ? It appears Wales are going BACKWARDS, not the other way round and making progress. I have ( painfully) watched the game on catch up of today's game and EMBARRASSING is the only word to describe it. Whereas Scotland looked for space ,moved the ball with skill and fluidity, Wales looked for contact, playing with such a lack of imagination, it made Pontypool of the 70's look like a creative French side ! Turgid is the word. The set piece was inefficient, particularly the line out, and basic skills were generally lacking. This shouldn't be happening at this level . Too many girls earning professional contracts are just not good enough. Lynne , brought in on the strengths of his Gloucester team( stuffed with English girls), clearly has little vision and,there are technical deficiencies seen today, which haven't be laid at his door. What is the answer .?..Two pro teams? There isn't the talent to make ONE. My view is linked to my previous post above, when I questioned the validity of careers in Sport for young women n playing rugby. There are often seduced by the bright lights, and have nothing to,fall back on, are left bereft abd disappointed, when the axe falls, whether that is injury or contract loss. England are so far ahead ATM, that some contests are totally meaningless. Far better if all went back to amateur status, with a level playing field. Players could still inspire as before, abd young people could still be enthused to take up the game. The way it is you cannot justify paying professionals for what we saw. The same if course could be argued about the Wales men's team, particularly after losing by 60 points, at home to England ------------- I stood yer on tanner bank |
Posted By: ladram
Date Posted: 23 August 2025 at 7:58pm
| To be honest with you i think to many of the women are caught up in the tic toc nonsense there's a video popped up on my phone today showing Ilona Maher and another player warming up she looked like a max factor walking advert and not being sexist because a lot of the male players have silly haircuts and ponytails |
Posted By: Wil Chips
Date Posted: 23 August 2025 at 8:35pm
Steve Shingler will be chuffed with the 6 tries...I'm really reaching for something positive after that performance-that's the best I've got! |
Posted By: scarletpimp
Date Posted: 23 August 2025 at 9:29pm
Correct Nige. I saw Maher LIVE, playing for Bristol a few times⁹. An incredible physical specimen. Big shoulders, tiny waist and Huge powerful legs. Did that equate to match winning performances,despite all the fuss ? NO ! To be fair, she us still adapting to 15 a side after playing so much7 's. What I am saying however, re - boots my previous post on this theme... ".its all froth and no content". One look at what's served up by today's Media, soaps, celebrity challenges (of all types) and various other trash. People are glued to their phones on social media....to the degree that reality becomes a blur. Many players build a profile from Tik Tok exposures, which leads itself to,better sponsorship. The problem occurs when this takes over from the REAL CONTENT...in this case what goes on, on the playing field . ------------- I stood yer on tanner bank |
Posted By: GPR - Rochester
Date Posted: 24 August 2025 at 7:01am
| Very poor & not the advert for female welsh rugby I was hoping for. The tackling was atrocious & basic skills missing at half back. |
Posted By: Raised By Peregos
Date Posted: 24 August 2025 at 10:08am
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I'm mostly disappointed for the players themselves. They are more capable than that. It was possibly the worst time to play one of your worst games in years. I believe it's Canada next? No chance of a win so I would go with some changes to get a feel for the Fiji game. 15 Metcalfe 14 Neumann 13 Cox 12 Keight 11 Jaz 10 Powell 9 Lockwood 8 Evans 7 Callender 6 Williams 5 Pyrs 4 Fleming 3 Tuipolotu 2 Jones 1 Pyrs Davies, Reardon, Rose, Crabb, King, Lewis, Bevan, George
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Posted By: RR1972
Date Posted: 24 August 2025 at 11:28am
| we gpt a top coach a top female dor and yet we gone backwards. puzzling |
Posted By: scarletpimp
Date Posted: 24 August 2025 at 12:22pm
I agree with some changes., but its a case of rearranging the deckchairs on the titanic. Don't want to pick on Llecu George, who is a fine player , but yesterday looked casual . Keira did'nt look sharp, for whatever reason. Hannah Jones looks a different player for Gloucester. Back row, mix, just not right. The three selected all,originally 7's. The bench gave us no impact, and when it was selected..with Tuipolotu, Carys Phillips, Fleming , Evans, I thought the opposite. Scotland v Wales games are usually close affairs, and seen many in recent years. What we saw yesterday shocked me to the core , tossed a side who,have been on par withn utterly outclass Wales in all aspects was demoralising . Lynne has commented that uts not good enough , but increased physical effort is'nt the just the answer, as there is a need for greater intensity, accuracy, andxa much improved vision of how we want to play the game....and that's down to Lynne. I am incredibly annoyed with the shambles we saw yesterday. With the huge changes facing Welsh rugby, two regions potentially closing with the probable lack of livelihoods, womens game should not be immune to changes , as you cannot justify pro contracts on the basis of the carnage we witnessed. On top of that TWO proposed pro women's teams..you must be joking, there isn't enough talent to form ONE squad. Scotland will probably be cutting their pro contracts soon, after WC , which is why there has been such turmoil North of the Border, something which may have proved a galvanising factor for the Scots. I totally sick of the constant headaches pro rugby throws at us. Thank God for the community game, which is a breath of fresh air ------------- I stood yer on tanner bank |
Posted By: Raised By Peregos
Date Posted: 24 August 2025 at 1:13pm
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You know I respect your views Pimp, especially on women's rugby, and I also understand you have both inside knowledge, but also inside pain and grief from your daughter's situation. I've seen this argument come up on here and gwlad quite often - not enough talent for the two proposed teams. This is classic chicken and the egg. Talent... maybe... there is also not enough talent for 4 men's regions but that doesn't change the fact a lot of people want it. Players though, there is enough for two teams - we currently have two in Brython and Gwalia, plus the age groups players below that PLUS the 23 (at least) who play in the English league (didn't all of yesterday's team play in England?). So, we have enough female players to form the two teams. If we don't even form the teams and support them financially properly we will NEVER have a better women's game. This is the bit that frustrates me with other posters - how do you expect them to get better (and challenge the professional sides like England) if you're not going to put the money, time and infrastructure into them? Two sides is a minimum. Then they need meaningful competition, and they need the pathways to be funded properly. If we don't create the teams, what's the point in creating the pathways if they don't get anywhere? If we don't create the pathways how are young girls going to choose to play rugby? You can't expect to continue to take an amateur attitude to the women's game and expect results and performances to suddenly become professional. And, in an attempt to pre-empt the replies, I know that Wales Women have not had much success since turning professional, and I know that watching them feels like they've even gone backwards. But everyone else has moved on too. If we HADN'T given out professional contracts we would be EVEN WORSE! I maintain that what we saw yesterday was not what this squad are capable of. Whatever the reasons for that are for Lynn and his team to fix. But longer term the fact of the matter is that when it comes to top-level rugby our players are not getting exposed to it. We have a lot of players in the English league but previous few of them get meaningful minutes over a season.
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Posted By: Why
Date Posted: 24 August 2025 at 1:36pm
I totally understand and I want the ladies game to thrive in Wales but yesterday was not anywhere near a professional standard. The basics of drawing a person before passing was rarely if at all seen by the Welsh team. The tackling was diabolical and the kicking not good enough. Surely it’s not much to ask that they are at least competitive. I don’t want to knock the ladies too much but the game in Wales cannot afford to pay people who aren’t good enough. I also apply this to the men’s game far too many average players making a living from rugby. We need the hunger back where you would die for the shirt whether it be Wales or your local village side. ------------- She asks why i still can't answer. I guess its in the blood. |
Posted By: GPR - Rochester
Date Posted: 24 August 2025 at 1:46pm
Don't worry Why the WRU have the plan - that hunger will be found in a barn somewhere along the M4 corridor which hasn't been costed or indeed planned but its a bloody big barn capable of holding 400+ people. If & when they finally get round to building this thing they & Welsh rugby will be totally bankrupt. Never mind they can convert it into a prison - some great synergy there you will notice.
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Posted By: Raised By Peregos
Date Posted: 24 August 2025 at 4:38pm
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Lots of talent in the u20s, particularly in the backs (which we need). Hanna Marshall is who we want at 10 in the future, she just needs a bit more physicality. Bell, Picton-Powell and Wilkinson all are athletes - not massively tall but solid and fast. There are good hands on display here - you can watch the whole game on Youtube too. Singleton on the wing is actually a quality scrum half too. https://youtu.be/f6LgN9Rh9fI" rel="nofollow - https://youtu.be/f6LgN9Rh9fI
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Posted By: scarletpimp
Date Posted: 25 August 2025 at 2:35am
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I likewise have a huge respect for Mr Peregoes Very wise, incredibly knowledgeable, and admire his dedication to supporting women's Rugby. His arguments above , you cannot dispute, regarding how we could continue to support a competitive team that was no professional. Unfortunately however the goalposts in Wales have changed big time. We are now talking of culling 150 years of history demoralising passionate communities, by culling two regions creating considerable redundancies.All this dictated by finance. As part of this reorganisational process, the WRU then are mor than happy, after creating this carnage, to support TWO women's teams. I completely dispute Mr Peregoes assumption therefore enough players to, form two teams .I watched Thunder and Lightning games, my daughter played in one, and the standard was abysmal...apalling. The video featured above was great and demonstrated why Wales didn't attempt to play with pace and precision against the Scots.? It didn't convince me however, that we have a ready pool of players, as the Scots had considered tackling as an " extra curricular activity " in this game All my professional life I have spent encouraging young people. The Manta has been " YES YOU CAN" . I failed my 11plus, failed my A levels first time round , and consequently spent the rest of my life encouraging others to succeed. Failure is'nt great, and as a sportsman I HATED losing. Who am I therefore to put roadblocks in the paths of young girls who want to, play rugby? Its sexist not to treat people equally, irrespective of gender. Unfortunately, ATM its not about gender, its about the practicalities that are currently facing us. The wider picture is despite its popularity , financing women's rugby is becoming increasingly difficult. Scotland, as I mentioned in a previous post ,will in all probability be cutting pro,contract post world cup, which has caused a hiatus. Ireland are having a review, and may do the same, which ties in with the financial reorganisation of regional rugby in Ireland. Lots if women's sides around the world are not professional . This of course leaves ENGLAND. Who logically can compete with them except NZ., whether pro, or not ? It's a bonkers one sided sport in the competition stakes. I see no,logic or sustainability in maintaining the professional status quo for women's rugby ...and would I say this, even if my daughters was STILL donning the Welsh shirt she wore with pride. Lisa Neuman , from St David's has put a budding career scientific research , abd a huge drop,in salary to take up,a professional contract.My daughter dId the same resigning from a promising teaching post. She is now 29, and by then I had five-years teaching experience behind me, and just as important FIVE years pension contributions, which,, particularly the way its going in terms of state pensionable age VITAL. I would dissuade anyone ( male or female)taking up,a sporting career as a short term 'dream chaser', not based on the reality your one injury away from disaster, unless you have something else to fall back on . Some with little academic potential, its less of a risk. I desperately want the Wales girls to be successful, and the Scottish performance really hurt. Unfortunately professional status is not working, and I have grave doubts it ever will. At this crucial time in our rugby history , throwing good money to bad, us just not an option . Hard choices unfortunately have to be made. ------------- I stood yer on tanner bank |
Posted By: Raised By Peregos
Date Posted: 25 August 2025 at 9:01am
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Thoughtful and interesting Pimp, thanks. In the spirit of discussion a couple of replies: - I do think, numbers wise, if we pull back the players from England, we can create two squads of players. You would then hope that through pathways and higher level training, true potential and talent can be achieved / come through. - The contract issues affecting Scotland and Ireland etc. Such a conundrum. For me, either they all have to be professional or none really. Otherwise every championship is a mockery. The other home nations can only develop towards England with investment. Without we'll go the other way and if England continue to be funded highly then the gap will widen to a point it's not worth playing in the Six Nations against them, and it'll be like England cricket - the best Welsh players will just represent England. We have to have a proper set-up which we can then develop over the next 10 years. - Re: Lisa Neumann - been a fan of hers. People saying she's not an athlete should check her out online and her PT training! I would push back on your point here though - This issue with people putting careers on hold IS because we don't have proper professional set-ups! This point is difficult because it's clear from all your posts (respectfully) the hurt you have from your daughter's experience, but the more clear and professional the pathways and teams, the less of a 'dream chaser' it becomes and the more of option. Again, it's chicken and the egg unfortunately. PS - For context, I've spent most of my life as a teacher in subjects where people have unrealistic dreams for their future, and I didn't start getting my pension (for reasons I won't go into) until about 5 years in to it!
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Posted By: scarletpimp
Date Posted: 25 August 2025 at 1:01pm
There us far more which unites us Mr Petegoes than divides us here, despite our obvious differences. I want to name it crystal clear however, my daughters situation has NOTHING to do with the clarity of my thought process regarding this complex and difficult issue. Two-wrongs don't make a right...however, what's sticks in my throat is the strong possibility that everything we have known as Scarlets, our culture, history, could go up in smoke, primarily due to WRU ,mismanagement . We could sacrificed on the alter of "change"..for WHAT, two hybrid teams, who many fans will never support AND two hapless women's teams, stuffed with players who under Lynn, cannot even do,the basics correctly. The performance against the Scots was a line in the sand for me. Unacceptable. I would have liked to have seen the Regional women's teams reintroduced. Real rivalry, and real passion, which Welsh rugby was all about. I remember Alex Calendar, early in her career, fighting with Carys Phillips on the training put at Parc, in a Scarlets v Ospreys game. Heated exchanges between myself and Roland Phillips ensued. We laughed and shook hands later. I will finish on this note. Even though my subject was Art and Design Technology, history has been one of my passions, all my life. One of my interests is the society of the Viking and Anglo Saxons . Their art and craft alone, is stunning and anyone who has intrest and time should go to the British Museum and view the Sutton Hoo treasures . It's ironic that the BBC are screening a dramatised version of 1066( which I have a number, of issues with), because I have just completed two books by Marc Morris " The Anglo Saxons" and " The Norman Conquest ". Who then would I have on my right hand in the( Scarlets)sheild wall ? The shield wall which deified all , propelled your enemies backwards . You dependent utterly on the next man , your brother in arms, your kindred spirit, your friend. In my shield wall we we have MR PEREGOES, fighting along side me ( together with Will Chips, GPR, Why, Wasp abd RR) United we stand Yma O Hyd ------------- I stood yer on tanner bank |
Posted By: GPR - Rochester
Date Posted: 25 August 2025 at 2:06pm
Mark can I stand next to RR - at least he knows which end of a gun is dangerous.
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Posted By: ap sior
Date Posted: 25 August 2025 at 2:26pm
And much more than that, apparently he has some wine😀😀😀😀
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Posted By: Raised By Peregos
Date Posted: 25 August 2025 at 3:21pm
| Shield wall eh? I'll grow the beard out! |
Posted By: scarletpimp
Date Posted: 25 August 2025 at 8:19pm
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I hate the Normans with a vengeance . Of course it doesn't impinge on the relationship with more current French friends  ------------- I stood yer on tanner bank |
Posted By: Wil Chips
Date Posted: 27 August 2025 at 7:47pm
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Interesting stat...the crowd (42k) that watched England play at the Stadium of Light was more than the whole tournament attracted last time it was held in England (2010). I have to fear for Wales a bit on Saturday ( 12 noon BBC2). Canada look like they will give England a good game later in the tournament. Could get messy. |
Posted By: GPR - Rochester
Date Posted: 30 August 2025 at 1:07pm
| Promising start for Wales but hit with 4 tries in 15 minutes in the lead up to half time. Game over - no knock out stages for Wales I am afraid. |
Posted By: RR1972
Date Posted: 30 August 2025 at 2:05pm
| we tried hard just big strong fit or good enough |
Posted By: steve evans
Date Posted: 30 August 2025 at 2:33pm
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Although even the Vikings had their berserkers - literaly mad b****s whom got all fired up and charged at the enemy lines, creating fear and dread in the enemy lines so the other troops could follow @Scarlet pimp if you life the Sutton Hoo treasures in the British musuem alongsde the La Tène objects the museums in Prague and Neuchâtel have some stunning examlpes of art and craftsmanship
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Posted By: roy munster
Date Posted: 30 August 2025 at 2:56pm
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proof were light years away from being able to find to justify or afford 2 pro female squads in wales keep growing keep developing keep improving the numbers I believe there are 39 female teams/clubs in wales clearly the numbers are growing A national academy is clearly needed for mens and womens game...and in time if affordable and if the numbers of quality players come through then perhaps a female semi pro team or 2 Trying to leapfrog to 2 fully pro female squads 2 x 40 players in the midst of the current crisis is just crazy and will fail everyone ------------- ROYMOND MUNTER MBE (FOR SERVICES TO THE COMBOVER) |
Posted By: gnasher1975
Date Posted: 30 August 2025 at 5:44pm
Not sure I get the we are light years behind more professional sides, so let's stop them from trying to close that gap🤷🤷🤷 |
Posted By: Wil Chips
Date Posted: 30 August 2025 at 5:57pm
After Canada burst the Wales bubble in that 20 mins in the first half, the only thing I looked at was the players under 22....my rationale is that the players in their late 20's and early 30's (no disrespect meant by the way) are products of a truly amateur set up, and are not going to improve or be around for the next RWC in most cases. The changes in the back line during the game (long overdue as we've stubbornly stuck with the same back line through the 6N and into the RWC) looked notably more aligned and potent. We have a nucleus of young players that seem to have the talent at least. I can't speak to their coaching or fitness. Canada look to be the only side I've seen capable of giving England a game. |
Posted By: Raised By Peregos
Date Posted: 30 August 2025 at 6:32pm
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Interesting. An under 22 side could be - Threw in a couple of older ones in the backs: 15. Metcalfe (20) 14. Cox (26) 13. Picton-Powell (U20) 12. Powell (26) 11. Singleton (U20) 10. Marshall (U20) 9. Lockwood (18) 8. Hopkins (20) 7. Metcalfe (18) 6. King (22) 5. Pyrs (19) 4. Vucaj (19) 3. Tuipultou (22) 2. Reardon (22) 1. Davies (20) 12 of those are either currently in the squad or have been. |
Posted By: scarletpimp
Date Posted: 30 August 2025 at 8:18pm
Good points made by Will. A better performance from Wales, and they showed some guts and determination against a really class Canada outfit. Unfortunately the death knell wasn't here, but the Scottish game and there was no coming back from that. It's important now, as Will says to give younger players a chance. Some of the senior players just haven't improved as professional players, while other countries like Ireland & Scotland have kicked on & and embarrassed Wales. Two years ago I went to Dublin abd saw us ship 40, points against a team we beat by a similar margin the previous year. Embarrassing! Now Scotland repeat the lesson in this world cup. There is no way under the sun can you justify two professional women's teams in Wales... sacrificed on the alter of the Scarlets demise. If that wasn't the case I would think differently,and should be the case of "us or them", as Ken Owens eloquently indicated. ------------- I stood yer on tanner bank |
Posted By: insidehalf
Date Posted: 30 August 2025 at 8:32pm
| I was surprised to hear the after match comments that the Canadian team was made up of almost 50-50 full time and part time players. But Canada can still produce on form the 2nd rated team in the world and the Welsh team seem to have gone backwards (although I thought the Welsh girls put a much better show today compared to last week). But the WRU seem hell bent on spending money on 2 full time teams with money we haven't really got. But that's the WRU for you. |
Posted By: roy munster
Date Posted: 30 August 2025 at 10:22pm
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How are the canucks so good yet not professional ? ------------- ROYMOND MUNTER MBE (FOR SERVICES TO THE COMBOVER) |
Posted By: scarletpimp
Date Posted: 30 August 2025 at 10:39pm
Quite a few Canadian girls have been down different routes such as pro 7's, with an element of interchangeability. Therefore a number who play in the UK abd USA. Contrast that to the Samoans, all amateur, crow funding to even make the tournament. They cheered a penalty as if they had won the tournament. 90 - 3 thrashing in which no-one benefits. Only three viable & meaningful competive tournament contests unfortunately, one of which involves England and Canada. Would far more intresting if there level playing field, metaphorically speaking ------------- I stood yer on tanner bank |
Posted By: Wil Chips
Date Posted: 31 August 2025 at 8:05am
| As participating countries grow there’s no question that a Tier 1 and Tier 2 tournament will prevail with regional qualification for the Tier 1 event ( as per the men’s RWC). |
Posted By: Raised By Peregos
Date Posted: 31 August 2025 at 9:43am
Just to be clear it's not as cut and dried as this. Most of the team yesterday (and I believe half the squad) play in England or France. There are big groups of them at Exeter, Saracens and Ealing. These are obviously paid professionals, and when you go through the names, they are most of their stars (de Goede, Hunt, Tessier, Menin, Tuttosi). So although some of the team are 'amateur' there are many that have been professionals for a while. The Canadian game is funded equally by their union I believe, men and women. They have good physical lineage (many are of Dutch descent) plus the fact that the weak Europeans didn't make the crossing or survive the wilderness. The university rugby scene is strong in Canada. Also many of that team yesterday have literally played together and missed few matches for many years. I think on the TH prop and lock have missed like one game between them in 3-4 years? If it's like the way North America streams its athletes from a young age, then only the biggest, fastest, most skilful will have developed through the system too (see Ice Hockey). Anyway, I'm not an expert, but looked it up a bit because I was intrigued why they are so good. I just think the common narrative that they're 'just an amateur side' isn't really telling the whole story. That all said, they're streets ahead of us regardless! But if we can keep those youngsters plus a few of the mid-twenties older heads for the next four years we should be in a strong position in the future. Everyone always wants everything so quickly.
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Posted By: gnasher1975
Date Posted: 31 August 2025 at 9:52am
There are 20million women in Canada compared to 1.5m in Wales. It's basic but they potentially have 13.5 players to our one. Could be that simple. It's probably not but it greatly improves your chances of finding some better athletes. |
Posted By: scarletpimp
Date Posted: 31 August 2025 at 11:00am
Enviable knowledge of the women's game amply demonstrated by Mr Peregoes yet again Daughter has just finished a three month 7's stint in USA playing for Chicago Lions. Many of the sides, as Mr Peregoes says , whether in USA or Canada, are Univ based. There were several excellent Canadians playing for and against the Lions, who didn't even make the cut for WC, such is their depth. They would walk into Wales or many other sides(other than England) The point Mr Peregoes makes about "everyone wants everything so quickly" is a good one and not just in sport , but a metaphor for our sad and fast degenerating society. The proliferation of white delivery vans a perfect symbol of our throw away modern world, sinking fast into an environmental disaster ------------- I stood yer on tanner bank |
Posted By: Raised By Peregos
Date Posted: 31 August 2025 at 11:19am
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I spent 3 months at Boston College and the emphasis on sport at college (University) level made me so envious. BC has an average football and basketball team but an excellent Ice Hockey program, producing countless NFL stars. The facilities and arenas are on site. BC football still had a 40,000 stadium that was full for every game! And then even at high school level sport is so important and well-funded. It's all funding from the ground up, a lot of it from alumnis. If you watch the SEC college football show on Netflix and see the facilities the college teams are working with.... jeeezz.
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Posted By: ap sior
Date Posted: 31 August 2025 at 11:24am
There's something positive to be said for the days when if your telly broke down, the repair man would call round and almost invariably take the tv away for repair. As he left he'd cheerfully tell you that he'd bring it back nest week. A whole weekend without a telly ????? We'd just play snakes and ladders and snap to while away the hours. Good times.
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Posted By: RR1972
Date Posted: 31 August 2025 at 11:27am
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Posted By: GPR - Rochester
Date Posted: 31 August 2025 at 11:32am
Boston is a great city. Only downside its full of Americans!!!!
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Posted By: Raised By Peregos
Date Posted: 31 August 2025 at 11:38am
Oof, can't stand the Patriots! I only really follow NFL (Packers). But yeah so many great sports teams in a great city.
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Posted By: scarletpimp
Date Posted: 31 August 2025 at 11:46am
There a very programmes worth watching these days, with a proliferation of soaps, ridicules celebrity challenges on everything under the sun, (etc, etc) There is a perfect answer to the "dumbing down society", who don't think , don't read , don't question. Too much time spent on social media glued to their bloody phones ------------- I stood yer on tanner bank |
Posted By: steve evans
Date Posted: 31 August 2025 at 11:55am
I employed a Aussie Guy in the early 90s think he took Crocodile Dundee as a role model. After traveling across the UK he couldn't get over how backward our towns and villages were in terms of sports facilities even then many towns in Western Australia had Leisure centres with swimming pools, tennis courts, pitches for all sports. Even now over 30 years later reasonable sized towns like Bury Port, Gorseinon still have limited cummity sporting facilities. Given better access to sports faciliteis as children and youths our players and athletes would follow a different trajectory in their sporting career. Plus if the Government and NHS actual tried to prevent ailments by making excercise and fitness more accessible by improved facilites we wouldn't so many health and isolation problems we have now. |
Posted By: Raised By Peregos
Date Posted: 31 August 2025 at 12:10pm
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Completely agree Steve. It should've pushed on after 2012 but as usual, the government fluffed their lines. Just a slight pushback on this Pimp "There a very programmes worth watching these days" - as it's an industry I know very well, we are actually living in a golden age of television from a drama perspective. Never has there been more choice of high quality television shows. At the same time many comedy shows have died (trad sitcoms, sketch shows etc.) and moved to social media and Youtube, soaps are actually scaling back or disappearing altogether (Soaps were MUCH bigger even a decade ago), talk shows have moved to podcasts (which have moved from narrative to, literally, just talk shows). Game show formats are making a comeback, and actually people are screaming out for trad sitcoms but few are being written. I think what you are seeing/feeling is the mainstream broadcasters and streamers trying to compete with Youtube and tiktok content and blurring the lines between TV and 'content'. BBC, ITV, C4 and C5 still make a ton of great, high quality content in all genres though. We are moving away from scheduled broadcasting. It probably won't exist in a decades time. Just FYI, for overall quality over quantity Apple TV is the best streamer.
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Posted By: steve evans
Date Posted: 31 August 2025 at 12:58pm
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its been a good few years since I stopped watch conventional broadcast TV because of the appauling quality and dumbing down of the British public by the program producers and schedulers. I have my Amazaon, Netflix, Apple TV, YouTube and a few others which is only a sligh increase over the TV License fee but lets me watch what I want, when I want. Plus by a bizarre quirk in licensing still allows me to watch live rugby on S4C. All my family and most of my friends have done the same. Considering we are at the more senior end of the age profile - it does not look good for the current funding model of the BBC If you no longer want a TV Licensce, you will get numerous threatening letters from the TVLA. To put an immediate stop, complain to the address on the bottom, stating that any further correspondance will be viewed as harrasment and that you are withdrawing the "Right of Implied Access" which stops them banging on your door. |
Posted By: skyblue
Date Posted: 31 August 2025 at 1:09pm
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In terms of putting the Llanelli region is the strongest possible position to secure its place as being one of the centres for the proposed 2 new teams....something seems to have gone under the radar.. The provision for the development of up and coming young female players. Unlike the men there is no SRC and no University Bucs team either. This places them even more at a disadvantage than the males.
We must remember the 2 new teams come as a package men AND women. We have to make sure strong arrangements for both are established as you cannot have one without the other ------------- KRR |
Posted By: scarletpimp
Date Posted: 31 August 2025 at 2:21pm
"Golden age from a drama perspective" .I contrast Hilary Mantell's "Wolf Halloween with the current dumbing down offerings " King and Conqueror ", with more historical holes than a sieve. The change the names s of key female historical figures, and two of Harold's brothers Leofwine & Gyrth, who fought and died with Harold at Hastings do'nt even feature. This may be a drama, by vwhen the writers ( of Peaky Blinders fame ) indicate William was at Edward the Confesser's coronation, when in fact as a teenager, he wasn't, there is something badly wrong. Nicola Walker starred in the remarkable ' Unforgotten', which has continued to be superb, since her departure. Sadly everything she has done since has been absolutely pants, including the current offering currently screening. Of recent dramas " Gold" , based on the brinksmat robbery stood out . I have some inside knowledge of this saga, as one of my friends was one of the team of prosecuting councils. Of many other dramas, they are ther sugar coated to imitate shallow American pap. Many are drawn out to boost viewing figures, sacrificing the punchy quality of the narrative. Of course there are good dramas, but you really have to to be selective. Excellent ones are like hens teeth. Golden age of drama certainly is not.  Sorry to divert from our topic of WWC. Looked at Spain v Ireland, and as promising as Spain were, Ireland were poor. Mistakes from both sides prevailing. Nothing I have seen in this World Cup has engaged. Hoping for better at the knock out stages, but even then( as I mentioned in a previous post) many games are foregone conclusions. England will win this tournament at a canter, put to right ( in they eyes) what happened in the final last time. ------------- I stood yer on tanner bank |
Posted By: Raised By Peregos
Date Posted: 31 August 2025 at 3:03pm
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Although taste is subjective, the median quality of TV drama (which includes everything fiction other than proper sitcoms and sketch shows pretty much) is higher than it's ever been. You're entitled to your opinion of course, as is my elderly father when he complains "there's nothing on tele to watch, it's all rubbish"!
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Posted By: RR1972
Date Posted: 31 August 2025 at 4:14pm
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some great drama shows on tv now both from uk and usa. sketch shows and comedy shows are down the pan the bbc being the worst almas not normal boarders man like mobeen, the tuckers really are dross the young offenders is funny
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Posted By: scarletpimp
Date Posted: 31 August 2025 at 5:15pm
That may be case Mr Peregoes , but the crap served up as entertainment in UK, is laughable...your father is right. ( don't start me about imported American rubbish). In comparison( & in fairness) there is a wonderful history of films coming out of US, many of which we have in our collection However if I was point you to the Natural world programmes in the UK , indeed we have entered an " Golden age". All of Attenborough 's output is magical, and there is a hell of a lot more. Countfile is always excellent, as is Coast and Country highlighting the Best of Wales. Paul Murton's tours of Scotland are totally inspiring and educational, making you want to get out your walking boots and get up there. Simon Reeve's travel documentaries on travel are amazing, and not just from a shallow tourists style standpoint. I rarely missed Gardeners World, whether its Monty Don or not, my only regret is that I am not in the same league as my friend GPR Rochester. We collect Art Deco and a moorcroft Ceramics so rarely miss "Flog it" or Antiques roadshow, partly for information. In addition therefore marvellous history programmes from different eras available Most of the above , although not exclusively, is on BBC 2 or my preference, BBC4. To balance my argument, THERE IS plenty to view, as long as you're selective, and scan the Radio Times with a toothcomb ------------- I stood yer on tanner bank |
Posted By: roy munster
Date Posted: 31 August 2025 at 5:52pm
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I dont watch much of the beeb tbh...Certainly doesnt seem to be much comedy as in the past or unique exciting drama unless Ive missed it... best shows on the Beeb in recent years ...attenbourough wildlife ...The trip , Dragons den, fishing with paul and bob, flintoffs field of dreams, simon reeves, portillos trains, test match special.louis theroux.....that destination x I need to give a go it seems like fun open to all suggestions though what am I missing? ------------- ROYMOND MUNTER MBE (FOR SERVICES TO THE COMBOVER) |
Posted By: Raised By Peregos
Date Posted: 31 August 2025 at 6:43pm
We can agree to disagree on your first point, ESPECIALLY the "imported American rubbish" ! No harm no foul!
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Posted By: RR1972
Date Posted: 31 August 2025 at 7:38pm
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the wire, deadwood rome the sopranos are some great usa tv shows, peaky blinders , line of duty top class uk shows ridley has started well to. love/hate v good irish show and mr in between and leadbelly good aussie shows. on a side note the rest is history is a great podcast
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Posted By: insidehalf
Date Posted: 31 August 2025 at 8:31pm
| It seems to me nearly a quarter of all the women in this World Cup have a connection with Gloucester/Hartpury. So I wonder how much game time the Welsh girls are actually getting with their club? But bringing them back to play with the planned 2 Welsh full time professional teams doesn't seem to be the answer, as who will they play? |
Posted By: steve evans
Date Posted: 31 August 2025 at 8:39pm
That would be from where Sean Lynn is from and doesn't tally wth the lack of cohesion in the side.
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Posted By: skyblue
Date Posted: 31 August 2025 at 10:16pm
Not only that...what about the level below? ------------- KRR |
Posted By: RR1972
Date Posted: 01 September 2025 at 10:53pm
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the english players are the best in the workd . most if not all of our team play in the same league, why are we so bad in comparison? we need to win this weekend no excuses and that applies to players amd coaches both as lynn hasctbh been a disaster so far. on a side note the wru want two pro teams of women with a player pool of 80? so that is what 5 players per position? are there really 5 women in each position good enough to be professional rugby players? tbh on current viewing the answer has to be no , would we be better off focussing on a core group and them bigger fitter and stronger to compete at test level, if wales keep losing tests people will not soend money to watch or sponsor them
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Posted By: scarletpimp
Date Posted: 02 September 2025 at 12:24am
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It's taken a while, but have got around to watching the majority of last ga,e if pool matches( on highlights if not full game). The result that stood out for me was South Africa .It was a great competitive game against the Italians, with the South Africans just edging it in the end , making theIr 1st WC Knock out QF. I have seen the Springboks, several times LIVE, abd on both occasions Wales won comfortably. Now they seem less raw, fitter and faster. If you consider the progress of Ireland and Scotland, one of few sides going backwards , at a rate of knots are Wales. Embarrassing! All we hear in the media ATM, from a Welsh perspective, is statements from Evans, that she has been unfairly targeted because of her appearance. I have always and consistently stood up for the girls, when faced with online sexists and even misogynist. morons. It is not satisfactory to,target someone, just for their appearance , but it happens. If you go out however, with hair bows, full face makeup,including extravagant eye lashes, sadly your making yourself a target. Its a concern , particularly as we are losing, the focus is on other things not on matters on the pitch. Looking at the Scotland v Fiji game, the typical Fiji traits of ball handing and physicality were in evidence. Unfortunately their other traditional failings were clear to see, wuth reckless challenges and yellow cards. Wales need to play a faster tempo game, like the Scots, tire out the big Fiji forwards with quick ruck ball and swiftly altering the point if attack. Too date, Wales attacking strategy has been predictably laborious . This is a game they can surely win, to restore some belated pride. Fiji of course will have other ideas and pose a threat. They have some amazing players, particularly the second row. If Wales do lose this game, and return home humiliated, there will be a raucous cacophony of opposition to two professional womens teams, particularly as it is a strong possibility of two mens teams disappearing ------------- I stood yer on tanner bank |
Posted By: GPR - Rochester
Date Posted: 02 September 2025 at 7:29am
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All true Mark except please don't give fuel to some on here by suggesting that two womens' teams is conditional on going down to two mens regions. That is not the case of course as Ken Owens made clear - they are separate issues & should be dealt with separately. Judging by the performances of the current Welsh squad the idea of having 80 professional level female players is pie in the sky. Surely money would be better spent on the pathways & making the 20's teams more professional with S&C, top coaching, nutrition etc. To suggest that we are ready over the next 2 years to have 80 full time women alongside 100 men is woefully simplistic. For sure that could be our target for 5 years time for the women with suitable plans now put in place.
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Posted By: roy munster
Date Posted: 02 September 2025 at 1:48pm
They are not seperate issues at all...Its all being funded by the same pot of money that is created by the mens game. There is no revenue to pay for the new female contracts from the womens game... It would help if the WRU actually stated the costs of these 80+ new professional female contracts ------------- ROYMOND MUNTER MBE (FOR SERVICES TO THE COMBOVER) |
Posted By: GPR - Rochester
Date Posted: 02 September 2025 at 2:05pm
See mark it didn't take long.
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Posted By: RR1972
Date Posted: 02 September 2025 at 3:57pm
| genuine q woyod it be acceptable if we split the money the mens gane generates into a seperate pot and funded mens rughy from that and then we took the money the womens game generates and had a seperate pot for that and funded the womens game out of that, there could be no arguing that the mens gane is funding the womens game then? with the caveat being asvthe eomens gane becomes more lucrative and generates more income, the women get to keep all that to fund their gane |
Posted By: scarletpimp
Date Posted: 02 September 2025 at 4:06pm
I have said before that I agree with Ken, it shouldn't be the case of one or the other. My ideal scenario, would be, as Sioned Harries suggested, going back to the the real bite and rivalry of Regional women's games. I loved those games so much, particularly our matches against the Ospreys, when after one game of shouting and arguing with Roland Phillips ( prior to him becoming Welsh coach), I was told by my daughter I was an embarrassment . GPR is correct there is no way under the sun can we support 80 female professional players. Many if gone backwards since professional contracts were introduced, and I should know having not missed a Wales home game for several Years, abd others( away games) watched on TV. Roy also has a point about the ONE POT( financially), and the ramifications being the Scarlets demise. I desperately want the girls to succeed, but in the event of the WRU's preferred option of two teams, womens abd mens, both would face huge acrimonious bitterness from large swathes of the public, totally opposed to the concept. Georgia Evans ( despite the fact I think her appearance is ridiculous on the rugby field ) does not deserve the apalling abuse from sexyst misogynistic twerps. It's her choice. I have sent her a Message of support If however that crescendo of antagonistic attitudes will increase if Wales continues the current trend on the back of drastic cuts, ahd our case severing 150 years of culture and tradition. Surely having case mix if semi pro abd core if professional players playing for the regions would because better options . Development would continue, as GPR says over next 5 years, so we can then make a reassessment of the labdscape as we see it. Hopefully the pro players would be fee to play fir Premiership teams and released for regions, as required. Academies for female talent would continue, as in the mens, game, but maybe not on a full time basis. Scotland have just completed their review of the financial feasibility of the Womens game, hence the acrimony about reduced risk of a reduction of contracts one the WC is over. Ireland are having a similar review, with outcome unknown . Well done to both sets of girls, who hay mave to " face the music " when in probability their Worid cup campaign ends in the QF. Sad times . . ------------- I stood yer on tanner bank |