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Topic: Wales v Japan
Posted By: surfing-mtber
Subject: Wales v Japan
Date Posted: 15 November 2025 at 6:32pm
Understand the apathy for the national team, but HT 7-7. Japan 13 players for 10 mins and Wales can't score, Adams then gets a completely pointless YC at 41mins. Really really poor.

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Posted By: Trostre Parc Boy
Date Posted: 15 November 2025 at 6:33pm
That was a very poor first half of Rugby by anyone’s standard.


Posted By: Rob Hunt
Date Posted: 15 November 2025 at 6:43pm
Originally posted by Trostre Parc Boy Trostre Parc Boy wrote:

That was a very poor first half of Rugby by anyone’s standard.
I thought that Japan played some very entertaining rugby.


Posted By: ap sior
Date Posted: 15 November 2025 at 6:43pm
About time someone had a serious word with Adams, a really stupid, and totally needless YC. He’s got form sadly, did it against Argentina in RWC23, clock was in the red at the end of the first half, and the Argentinian had knocked on.


Posted By: Tony Clifton
Date Posted: 15 November 2025 at 6:44pm
I haven’t seen anything positive from Adams for a few years.


Posted By: Rob Hunt
Date Posted: 15 November 2025 at 6:45pm
Thoroughly deserved upgrade to a red card. Should have been a straight red. It was a clear cheap shot.


Posted By: ap sior
Date Posted: 15 November 2025 at 6:48pm
Adams upgraded to red. Can’t believe that. 


Posted By: gnasher1975
Date Posted: 15 November 2025 at 6:54pm
Originally posted by ap sior ap sior wrote:

Adams upgraded to red. Can’t believe that. 

He sticks and elbow into the head of 14 then lands on the a prone players head on the floor, there was no forward momentum or a challenge for the ball.


Posted By: surfing-mtber
Date Posted: 15 November 2025 at 7:06pm
Originally posted by gnasher1975 gnasher1975 wrote:

Originally posted by ap sior ap sior wrote:

Adams upgraded to red. Can’t believe that. 

He sticks and elbow into the head of 14 then lands on the a prone players head on the floor, there was no forward momentum or a challenge for the ball.
AKA pointless, especially at 41 mins


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Posted By: SA14
Date Posted: 15 November 2025 at 7:08pm
And to think, people blamed Gatland. 


Posted By: Abbey
Date Posted: 15 November 2025 at 7:18pm
Originally posted by SA14 SA14 wrote:

And to think, people blamed Gatland. 


They blamed Pivac first


Posted By: SA14
Date Posted: 15 November 2025 at 7:26pm
Originally posted by Abbey Abbey wrote:

Originally posted by SA14 SA14 wrote:

And to think, people blamed Gatland. 


They blamed Pivac first

Anything but the useless players. The WRU are rubbish but they can’t control the uselessness of those players. Yet people will still use the WRU narrative. 


Posted By: Abbey
Date Posted: 15 November 2025 at 7:28pm
Originally posted by SA14 SA14 wrote:

Originally posted by Abbey Abbey wrote:

Originally posted by SA14 SA14 wrote:

And to think, people blamed Gatland. 


They blamed Pivac first


Anything but the useless players. The WRU are rubbish but they can’t control the uselessness of those players. Yet people will still use the WRU narrative. 


It’s the coaching team who decide which 15 players are on the pitch at any one time, though. They’re the ones selecting the squad. If the players are useless, who selected them and left, arguably, better players at home?


Posted By: M.M.
Date Posted: 15 November 2025 at 7:35pm
I'll take a 1 point win, bois bach.


Posted By: Kooga67
Date Posted: 15 November 2025 at 7:37pm
Cracknell deserved moth. But I thought Mann was excellent


Posted By: Eastern outpost
Date Posted: 15 November 2025 at 7:41pm
Well done Olly Cracknell and especially Jarrod Evans. On the pitch for only about 2 mins and nails that pressure kick.

As much as there was to criticise the players in terms of coherence in performance, they exhibit huge degrees more sense and coherence than the WRU executive.


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Posted By: Wil Chips
Date Posted: 15 November 2025 at 7:41pm
We were very lucky to turn that in in to a win,

Against Japan.

At home.

In injury time.


Posted By: sospanman
Date Posted: 15 November 2025 at 7:43pm
Oh the ecstasy!

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Posted By: Eastern outpost
Date Posted: 15 November 2025 at 7:43pm
Originally posted by Wil Chips Wil Chips wrote:

We were very lucky to turn that ion in to a win,

Against Japan.

At home.

In injury time.
A nailbiter for those who still care(d).

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In a world where you can be anything – Be Kind.


Posted By: gnasher1975
Date Posted: 15 November 2025 at 7:51pm
Celebrating like we have won the world cup, yet up the road England have beaten the all blacks


Posted By: surfing-mtber
Date Posted: 15 November 2025 at 8:04pm
Well. Positives.
Better with 14 men, Cracknell played really well, as did Mann. They kept trying to the very end, with a man down. Evans held his nerve. Scrum, especially 2nd half was good.

Wainwright obviously wasn't fit, Plumtree made a difference, should have started. Dan Edwards is an exciting runner, but stands too deep and doesn't take the ball to the line. Centres made no impact, defence was ready and they came from deep. Murray is badly lacking confidence. LRZ doesn't look 100%. Murray had a hard time under the high ball, but as last time, so did everyone else. Why do we persist with high ball? Lineout was a shambles.
So many silly penalties, especially for offside. Japan's discipline was even worse.
Did I see a certain WRU high-up giving Tandy a hug!?

I'm afraid two thumpings are on the way.


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Posted By: steve evans
Date Posted: 15 November 2025 at 8:05pm
Somehow that feels like a very grubby win, hardly deserved.  Japan came with more intent but didn't click on the day despite some nice touches. The missed kicks cost them.

That does not look like a happy Welsh camp, LRZ seems constantly angry, Adams seems to be on double what LRZ is on and the players seemed to have dozed off daring the defence coaching session.

The big disappointment for me - No picture of Reddin on the big screens. It would have been so funny if he had been booed more than Eddie Jones




Posted By: ladram
Date Posted: 15 November 2025 at 8:09pm
Suggestions for Westgate Street go down to no regions lel all our top players play elsewhere have a vibrant league below regional level and no need for so many blazers and p ricks it works for Argies 1953 we last beat the Blacks


Posted By: gnasher1975
Date Posted: 15 November 2025 at 8:16pm
Any coach worth his salt will tell one player to go up for a high ball and 2 or 3 more to hang around the Welsh side as I lost count of the times we slapped a ball back for Japan to pick it up, simple possession really.

Not sure if it is a tactic or we are just poor.


Posted By: Rob Hunt
Date Posted: 15 November 2025 at 8:23pm
Originally posted by ladram ladram wrote:

Suggestions for Westgate Street go down to no regions lel all our top players play elsewhere have a vibrant league below regional level and no need for so many blazers and p ricks it works for Argies 1953 we last beat the Blacks
Tend to agree with you. Professional sport only really thrives where the money is. Look at football. Celtic were the first British team to win the European Cup with a team all born within 30 miles of Parkhead, now Scottish professional football is a joke. Similarly Ajax were a great power in Europe, the best Dutch footballers now play in the Premiership, Seria A, La Ligua or for PSG. 
Personally I miss the true local derbies Swansea, Neath etc. and also the cup trips. Unfortunately Wales is one of the most deprived areas in Europe and doesn’t have the money to support professional sport at the top level. At least if our best players play in England or France they will still be available for Wales unlike when they were lost to rugby league.


Posted By: ladram
Date Posted: 15 November 2025 at 8:28pm
Originally posted by Rob Hunt Rob Hunt wrote:

Originally posted by ladram ladram wrote:

Suggestions for Westgate Street go down to no regions lel all our top players play elsewhere have a vibrant league below regional level and no need for so many blazers and p ricks it works for Argies 1953 we last beat the Blacks
Tend to agree with you. Professional sport only really thrives where the money is. Look at football. Celtic were the first British team to win the European Cup with a team all born within 30 miles of Parkhead, now Scottish professional football is a joke. Similarly Ajax were a great power in Europe, the best Dutch footballers now play in the Premiership, Seria A, La Ligua or for PSG. 
Personally I miss the true local derbies Swansea, Neath etc. and also the cup trips. Unfortunately Wales is one of the most deprived areas in Europe and doesn’t have the money to support professional sport at the top level. At least if our best players play in England or France they will still be available for Wales unlike when they were lost to rugby league.
The football team won 1-0 away to country with a population roughly the size of Carms/Pembs Wink


Posted By: greypower1
Date Posted: 15 November 2025 at 8:30pm
Anyone know what our gameplan was?  It appeared to me to be get the ball to Zamit and let him run for the line.  Unfortunately you need many phases and fast recycling to create space for wings to make ground.  We really do look 2nd rate and underpowered.

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Posted By: jeremy windell
Date Posted: 15 November 2025 at 8:31pm
Our conditioning coach these days, is it Willy Wonka?

Our 2 replacement props look like they've been open mouth swimming in the chocolate river in his factory.

These players are an absolute embarrassment.


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Posted By: steve evans
Date Posted: 15 November 2025 at 9:15pm
Originally posted by jeremy windell jeremy windell wrote:

Our conditioning coach these days, is it Willy Wonka?

Our 2 replacement props look like they've been open mouth swimming in the chocolate river in his factory.

These players are an absolute embarrassment.

But in comparison the Japanese hooker was slim, light weight, could run and sidestep - yet held up his part in scrum.


Posted By: scarletpimp
Date Posted: 15 November 2025 at 11:27pm
Originally posted by Eastern outpost Eastern outpost wrote:

Originally posted by Wil Chips Wil Chips wrote:

We were very lucky to turn that ion in to a win,

Against Japan.

At home.

In injury time.
A nailbiter for those who still care(d).


I don't..


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Posted By: SA14
Date Posted: 16 November 2025 at 12:45am
Originally posted by Abbey Abbey wrote:

Originally posted by SA14 SA14 wrote:

Originally posted by Abbey Abbey wrote:

Originally posted by SA14 SA14 wrote:

And to think, people blamed Gatland. 


They blamed Pivac first


Anything but the useless players. The WRU are rubbish but they can’t control the uselessness of those players. Yet people will still use the WRU narrative. 


It’s the coaching team who decide which 15 players are on the pitch at any one time, though. They’re the ones selecting the squad. If the players are useless, who selected them and left, arguably, better players at home?

Who was left at home better? Embarrassing amateur looking players. You can’t default to coach blaming. 
 




Posted By: RR1972
Date Posted: 16 November 2025 at 12:46am
we wonn. nit much else to sayLOL


Posted By: GPR - Rochester
Date Posted: 16 November 2025 at 7:12am
Well that was poor even by our standards recently. Murray's confidence is shot - he needs to be stood down. Our centres are SRC level. Adams is finished & LRZ is still short of the fitness levels required so all in all Sherratt is not having a great start to attack coach.

Japan's desire to play is a pleasure to watch even if they sometimes don't get the final pass correct. Two players who looked like Internationals for Wales on the night - Cracknell & Mann. Fully expecting us to ship 200+ over our next 4 games. 


Posted By: Why
Date Posted: 16 November 2025 at 7:15am
A pathetic embarrassment cancel the next two games please

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Posted By: steve evans
Date Posted: 16 November 2025 at 7:16am
Eddie Jones being himself : "If I was a fan I would be asking the Welsh Rugby Union for my money back. But they can't afford it so they are not going to give it back!""


Posted By: Abbey
Date Posted: 16 November 2025 at 8:17am
Originally posted by SA14 SA14 wrote:

Originally posted by Abbey Abbey wrote:

Originally posted by SA14 SA14 wrote:

Originally posted by Abbey Abbey wrote:

Originally posted by SA14 SA14 wrote:

And to think, people blamed Gatland. 


They blamed Pivac first


Anything but the useless players. The WRU are rubbish but they can’t control the uselessness of those players. Yet people will still use the WRU narrative. 


It’s the coaching team who decide which 15 players are on the pitch at any one time, though. They’re the ones selecting the squad. If the players are useless, who selected them and left, arguably, better players at home?

Who was left at home better? Embarrassing amateur looking players. You can’t default to coach blaming. 
 




You know damned well I am talking generally rather than specifically on the Japan game. For every single professional game in every single sport around the globe, the players don’t select themselves.



Posted By: skyblue
Date Posted: 16 November 2025 at 10:44am
Rugby's all about momentum on and off the field....
After a small win what we need next is a couple of games against opposition we have a chance of beating.


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Posted By: gaffer
Date Posted: 16 November 2025 at 11:07am
Originally posted by Abbey Abbey wrote:

Originally posted by SA14 SA14 wrote:

Originally posted by Abbey Abbey wrote:

Originally posted by SA14 SA14 wrote:

Originally posted by Abbey Abbey wrote:

Originally posted by SA14 SA14 wrote:

And to think, people blamed Gatland. 


They blamed Pivac first


Anything but the useless players. The WRU are rubbish but they can’t control the uselessness of those players. Yet people will still use the WRU narrative. 


It’s the coaching team who decide which 15 players are on the pitch at any one time, though. They’re the ones selecting the squad. If the players are useless, who selected them and left, arguably, better players at home?

Who was left at home better? Embarrassing amateur looking players. You can’t default to coach blaming. 
 




You know damned well I am talking generally rather than specifically on the Japan game. For every single professional game in every single sport around the globe, the players don’t select themselves.

I'm happy for the players to get a win. They try their best, put their bodies on the line, it's tough when you lose game after game. That they are not 'good enough' when selected to face other teams is not their fault. 
That combinations don't work, are out of balance and that systems fail or are inadequate IS a coaching and selection issue. We currently don't have a pool of world class players - some are barely adequate at URC level - but selection of Murray at FB doesn't work, the centre pairing doesn't work, there is no discernable plan for attack or defense and there are better players in the squad and outside in certain positions who could have been selected. Again all that IS down to the coach and his team. They deserve as much criticism as the players get.


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Posted By: Eastern outpost
Date Posted: 16 November 2025 at 11:17am
We’re excellent!

Criticising the various elements that separate the team’s and/or player performance from perfection.

No matter what the weaknesses of yesterday, the team demonstrate a much closer grasp of competence than the WRU Executive. Country miles do not even get close to measuring the gulf.

It seems like the game in Wales has been carried away on a torrent of fast flowing water, with many in there being victims of the flooding (of incompetence) doing their best to grab on to something to get to the safety of dry land. 

These victories against Japan are welcome, if only in reality they are some driftwood that can be grasped for a while before the inevitable momentum continues downstream. 


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Posted By: surfing-mtber
Date Posted: 16 November 2025 at 11:46am
Originally posted by steve evans steve evans wrote:

Eddie Jones being himself : "If I was a fan I would be asking the Welsh Rugby Union for my money back. But they can't afford it so they are not going to give it back!""
ClapLOLLOL


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Posted By: SA14
Date Posted: 16 November 2025 at 12:19pm
Originally posted by Abbey Abbey wrote:

Originally posted by SA14 SA14 wrote:

Originally posted by Abbey Abbey wrote:

Originally posted by SA14 SA14 wrote:

Originally posted by Abbey Abbey wrote:

Originally posted by SA14 SA14 wrote:

And to think, people blamed Gatland. 


They blamed Pivac first


Anything but the useless players. The WRU are rubbish but they can’t control the uselessness of those players. Yet people will still use the WRU narrative. 


It’s the coaching team who decide which 15 players are on the pitch at any one time, though. They’re the ones selecting the squad. If the players are useless, who selected them and left, arguably, better players at home?

Who was left at home better? Embarrassing amateur looking players. You can’t default to coach blaming. 
 




You know damned well I am talking generally rather than specifically on the Japan game. For every single professional game in every single sport around the globe, the players don’t select themselves.


I honestly thought you meant just the Japan game. My apologies for misunderstanding it. I agree with you in that respect when you say in general. Apologies again. 


Posted By: Wil Chips
Date Posted: 16 November 2025 at 12:34pm
It's unsettling that we are now destined to remain on the fringes of being a feature in the top tier world rugby calendar.

The 'soft game' that all the Southern hemisphere teams have on their European tour is now us, they will also be reticent to include us in every tour too.

NZ will see us a chance to give the broader squad a run, but still put 40+ points on us.

TBH I genuinely thought Japan would beat us, not to cause angst and be provocative, but because they at least have a game plan, cohesion and higher determination.

I'm not sure when, or if,, the coaches will see it, hopefully after the NZ game as the opportunities Ito freshen up the squad presents itself, that the only way forward is to throw caution to the wind and bring in more young prospects in the hope that we unearth a few nuggets.

It would have to be at the expense pf player who haven't done much wrong, but simply aren't going to get any better.

(Ben Thomas, Llywellyn, Josh Adams, Wainwright, Beard, Carre, Belcher etc)

Lets have a look at Southworh, Coghlan, Henessy, Rhys Davies, Beetham, Hawkins etc.

We really have nothing to lose.






Posted By: GPR - Rochester
Date Posted: 16 November 2025 at 12:47pm
Originally posted by Wil Chips Wil Chips wrote:

It's unsettling that we are now destined to remain on the fringes of being a feature in the top tier world rugby calendar.

The 'soft game' that all the Southern hemisphere teams have on their European tour is now us, they will also be reticent to include us in every tour too.

NZ will see us a chance to give the broader squad a run, but still put 40+ points on us.

TBH I genuinely thought Japan would beat us, not to cause angst and be provocative, but because they at least have a game plan, cohesion and higher determination.

I'm not sure when, or if,, the coaches will see it, hopefully after the NZ game as the opportunities Ito freshen up the squad presents itself, that the only way forward is to throw caution to the wind and bring in more young prospects in the hope that we unearth a few nuggets.

It would have to be at the expense pf player who haven't done much wrong, but simply aren't going to get any better.

(Ben Thomas, Llywellyn, Josh Adams, Wainwright, Beard, Carre, Belcher etc)

Lets have a look at Southworh, Coghlan, Henessy, Rhys Davies, Beetham, Hawkins etc.

We really have nothing to lose.





Couldn't agree more. 


Posted By: Rob Hunt
Date Posted: 16 November 2025 at 1:14pm
If it was boxing the New Zealand and South Africa matches wouldn’t be sanctioned.  Twelve of the 23 man squad from yesterday won’t be available for South Africa.🇿🇦 


Posted By: RR1972
Date Posted: 16 November 2025 at 1:17pm
next 4 games nz sa england  france we could be looking at shipping 250 points in that run. our defence is dreadful and as good as murray is with ball in hand he is simply too small play full back in this current era of high kicks and no escorting. id certainly look at hawkins and tompkins in the centre. prob beetham at 15 and davies at lock but it won’t win us any of these next 4 matches


Posted By: Seagultaf
Date Posted: 16 November 2025 at 1:27pm
Murray is a great example of the failings of the current coaching team. He was one of Wales best players last season and in with an outside chance of a lions tour. He has also been playing well in a struggling Scarlets team this season.
But playing for Wales he looks completely lost. I have always thought that full back wasn't his best position, but he is a liability there now. I hate to think what the last two weeks has done to his confidence. He looks like he needs a long rest.


Posted By: aber-fan
Date Posted: 16 November 2025 at 1:58pm
A one point win against Japan - but it keeps us out of pot 3 for the next world cup draw, it seems. Let us be grateful for small mercies.

I can easily understand the frustration and at times anger here. Things are in a mess and have been for a while. There are many reasons for it: some can be controlled (improved leadership at the top; better coaching... etc.) and some that can't (we're a small country with a limited number of payers; the economy is not in great shape; bigger unions will inevitably draw more form sponsors, and more press coverage; this is not a 'golden era' of players with talent coming through.. etc.) So, I won't comment here on those issues as others have debated them at length.

There were a few good things to come out of yesterday... a win always lifts the spirits of players and fans, regardless of how it is achieved. In terms of the play - we did score three tries to two, proving that the defence was pretty good a lot of the time (Japan had far more bal and territory) - the weak points being 1:1 defence especially out wide, and again weakness under the high ball - but an improvement on the previous week. Long defensive sets often worked out well, in fact. And given the imbalance in territory, we were pretty clinical to score three tries... plus kicked all (? not sure) our goals - a very high success rate anyway, thanks to Edwards (nailed one from the touchline) and Evans holding his nerve. Tomos Williams and Cracknell were excellent overall (no one was perfect). The scrum was solid, and the 'chocolate eaters' (as someone called them) who came on as front row subs marmalised their opponents towards the end, in scrums and that final rolling maul (perhaps a penalty try should have been awarded). I've not been a fan in the past, but Tompkins made a difference when he came on. 

The weaknesses are many and obvious: the high ball defence remains a problem... as someone said, it might be an idea to not bother competing but to place one or two players to intercept tap-downs, and make sure you immediately tackle (legally) a catcher - IF you can't compete. Poor Murray - an exellent player within his limits - is not going to grow 6 inches taller a this age. OR - you pick someone else at 15. I've not seen much of Beetham, but he has the size. Rogers and LRZ can compete in the air, but both have fitness issues. (LRZ, amusingly, put in one excellent run of 40m or so... but scored from a 1m flop-over instead.) The centres have been totally anonymous... and why play Thomas as a second 5-8th if he's not gong to kick or contribute much? What is the point of Llewellyn at 13? A big banger like that needs to start at 12 and do the old Doctor Roberts role - bash it up. Once, yesterday, he had the ball with room to run forward - and drew a pass back. FFS! 

There are too many of these draw-back passes - opposing defences are wise to them. We need to vary it. Maybe that's one reason why Edwards managed to wriggle and skip over for a try - the defence is bound to expect extra passes. But he is good on his feet, so there we gave Japan a taste of their own medicine. 

Adams was totally stupid to give away that RC - no need for what he did - though a YC would have been enough. It was definitely no worse than two of Japan's YCs. He looks finished at test level.

Let's face it - the next few games look like being exercises in damage control. I hope the squad and coaches focus on getting better at what they do in defence and attack, and cut down on the stupid errors. The very first lineout we had yesterday - near Japan's line - Lake dummies a throw and gives away a free kick! That's unforgivable from the player an the coaches. Mistakes like that must stop. 

That's enough for today, I think. 


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Posted By: SA14
Date Posted: 16 November 2025 at 2:06pm
Originally posted by Seagultaf Seagultaf wrote:

Murray is a great example of the failings of the current coaching team. He was one of Wales best players last season and in with an outside chance of a lions tour. He has also been playing well in a struggling Scarlets team this season.
But playing for Wales he looks completely lost. I have always thought that full back wasn't his best position, but he is a liability there now. I hate to think what the last two weeks has done to his confidence. He looks like he needs a long rest.

Really? Being coached by a different team has ruined his form in about 3 weeks? Does that mean Gatland was better? I’d just say teams have found out he’s not a very good full back at this level. Unless he was taller last season. 


Posted By: steve evans
Date Posted: 16 November 2025 at 2:16pm
The same comments about Murray, could also apply to LRZ, Adams and even Tomos Williams whom was a top rated player last year in the PRL but mediocre for us at test level.  Only a few players looked comfortable in either game - get the impression they aren't happy with the current setup


Posted By: aber-fan
Date Posted: 16 November 2025 at 2:20pm
Don't agree about Tomos - he's been a top player for Wales so far in this Autumn series.

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Posted By: Wil Chips
Date Posted: 16 November 2025 at 2:49pm
Tomos, Lake and Jack M are the only players we have that would likely get in to an England squad.



Posted By: skyblue
Date Posted: 16 November 2025 at 3:18pm
Originally posted by Wil Chips Wil Chips wrote:

Tomos, Lake and Jack M are the only players we have that would likely get in to an England squad.

Quite frankly how many of our players would get in any other Six Nations teams


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Posted By: Seagultaf
Date Posted: 16 November 2025 at 4:44pm
Originally posted by skyblue skyblue wrote:

Originally posted by Wil Chips Wil Chips wrote:

Tomos, Lake and Jack M are the only players we have that would likely get in to an England squad.


Quite frankly how many of our players would get in any other Six Nations teams


At the moment only Jac Morgan. England, France, Ireland, Scotland all have better no9 and no2. Although all three might just get into Italy team. If LRZ gets back to his best, then he might joint Jac.



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