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Topic: Wales Team v England
Posted By: GPR - Rochester
Subject: Wales Team v England
Date Posted: 29 January 2026 at 8:03am
15. Ellis Mee 14. LRZ 13. Hennessey 12. Eddie James 11. Adams 10. Edwards 9. Tomos
1. Smith 2. Elias 3. Francis 4. Beard 5. Jenkins 6. Plumtree 7. Mcloud 8. Wainwright

16. Lake 17. Carre 18. Whiffin 19. Carter 20. Cracknell 21. Hardy 22. Costelow 23. Watkin

Don't for one minute think Tandy will select as above with Ben Thomas/Hawkins, Mann being favoured recently. Also I understand that Lake is captain so probably he starts but Elias is the better player at the moment. I would give the long term captaincy to Jenkins but that gets complicated by him not being based in Wales as, of course, it will next season when Jac & Dewi join him. 

My thinking is that we need someone like Plumtree to compete with their lineout & that front 5 should insure we don't get pinged too many times as scrum time bearing in mind that England are missing at least two of their usual 4 starting props. Its all about trying to be competitive for as long as possible & not inviting pressure. Lets face facts if we can keep the difference to 20 or less against one of the top two teams it will be  a result of sorts. 



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Posted By: lofty evans
Date Posted: 29 January 2026 at 9:26am
Originally posted by GPR - Rochester GPR - Rochester wrote:

15. Ellis Mee 14. LRZ 13. Hennessey 12. Eddie James 11. Adams 10. Edwards 9. Tomos
1. Smith 2. Elias 3. Francis 4. Beard 5. Jenkins 6. Plumtree 7. Mcloud 8. Wainwright

16. Lake 17. Carre 18. Whiffin 19. Carter 20. Cracknell 21. Hardy 22. Costelow 23. Watkin

Don't for one minute think Tandy will select as above with Ben Thomas/Hawkins, Mann being favoured recently. Also I understand that Lake is captain so probably he starts but Elias is the better player at the moment. I would give the long term captaincy to Jenkins but that gets complicated by him not being based in Wales as, of course, it will next season when Jac & Dewi join him. 

My thinking is that we need someone like Plumtree to compete with their lineout & that front 5 should insure we don't get pinged too many times as scrum time bearing in mind that England are missing at least two of their usual 4 starting props. Its all about trying to be competitive for as long as possible & not inviting pressure. Lets face facts if we can keep the difference to 20 or less against one of the top two teams it will be  a result of sorts. 


Like Mee at 15 GPR...




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Posted By: GPR - Rochester
Date Posted: 29 January 2026 at 9:42am
Originally posted by lofty evans lofty evans wrote:

Originally posted by GPR - Rochester GPR - Rochester wrote:

15. Ellis Mee 14. LRZ 13. Hennessey 12. Eddie James 11. Adams 10. Edwards 9. Tomos
1. Smith 2. Elias 3. Francis 4. Beard 5. Jenkins 6. Plumtree 7. Mcloud 8. Wainwright

16. Lake 17. Carre 18. Whiffin 19. Carter 20. Cracknell 21. Hardy 22. Costelow 23. Watkin

Don't for one minute think Tandy will select as above with Ben Thomas/Hawkins, Mann being favoured recently. Also I understand that Lake is captain so probably he starts but Elias is the better player at the moment. I would give the long term captaincy to Jenkins but that gets complicated by him not being based in Wales as, of course, it will next season when Jac & Dewi join him. 

My thinking is that we need someone like Plumtree to compete with their lineout & that front 5 should insure we don't get pinged too many times as scrum time bearing in mind that England are missing at least two of their usual 4 starting props. Its all about trying to be competitive for as long as possible & not inviting pressure. Lets face facts if we can keep the difference to 20 or less against one of the top two teams it will be  a result of sorts. 


Like Mee at 15 GPR...



The boy is a natural Lofty. I think they will probably go with LRZ but I have my doubts about his defensive work. 


Posted By: Paul10
Date Posted: 29 January 2026 at 12:52pm
Rhys Davies just got called up to the squad.

Surprised he wasn't in at start really.


Posted By: Fscarlet
Date Posted: 29 January 2026 at 12:59pm
Originally posted by Paul10 Paul10 wrote:

Rhys Davies just got called up to the squad.

Surprised he wasn't in at start really.

And me, he is much better than Beard.


Posted By: Paul10
Date Posted: 29 January 2026 at 1:37pm
Not sure about that but Tandy only chose 1 Wales based 2nd row. So dependent on foreign clubs whether training sessions can work or not.


Posted By: hoppy
Date Posted: 02 February 2026 at 2:31pm
England team v Wales 

Full team: Steward; Feyi-Waboso, Freeman, Dingwall, Arundell; Ford, Mitchell; Genge, George (capt), Heyes, Coles, Chessum, Pepper, Underhill, Earl

Replacements: Cowan-Dickie, Rodd, Davison, Itoje, T Curry, Pollock, Spencer, M Smith


Posted By: Fscarlet
Date Posted: 02 February 2026 at 2:34pm
Originally posted by hoppy hoppy wrote:

England team v Wales 

Full team: Steward; Feyi-Waboso, Freeman, Dingwall, Arundell; Ford, Mitchell; Genge, George (capt), Heyes, Coles, Chessum, Pepper, Underhill, Earl

Replacements: Cowan-Dickie, Rodd, Davison, Itoje, T Curry, Pollock, Spencer, M Smith

Sickingly strong 


Posted By: philturk
Date Posted: 02 February 2026 at 3:06pm
That side has got 60 points written all over it

Paddypower offering 22.5/1 on England - 39 and France - 25......£20 bet kicks out £450


Posted By: Sir Duckling Tuft
Date Posted: 04 February 2026 at 11:18am
Wru will disingenuously use this latest humiliation as an excuse to further line their grubby pockets 

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Posted By: Realwest
Date Posted: 04 February 2026 at 4:57pm
When’s the Welsh team out


Posted By: hoppy
Date Posted: 04 February 2026 at 5:31pm
Originally posted by Realwest Realwest wrote:

When’s the Welsh team out

Naned tomorrow 


Posted By: Wil Chips
Date Posted: 05 February 2026 at 7:24am
I suspect Wales will put up a better account of themselves than many think (including England I hope).

A win is out of the question, but a 20 or so point defeat is reasonable.



Posted By: GPR - Rochester
Date Posted: 05 February 2026 at 7:35am
Originally posted by Wil Chips Wil Chips wrote:

I suspect Wales will put up a better account of themselves than many think (including England I hope).

A win is out of the question, but a 20 or so point defeat is reasonable.


I agree with that Wil. Don't think England quite have the bench firepower, particularly the front row, to pull away in the final 20 like they did the last game. Baxter & Stuart are big losses. I would also, if I was Tandy be targetting their back row at lineout time with Plumtree & using him at the front on their throw. He is the nearest we have to one of my favourite all time Scarlets Aaron Shingler. Plumtree's biggest issue of course is that he now has, justifiably, a bad discipline reputation. 


Posted By: Fscarlet
Date Posted: 05 February 2026 at 7:59am
Only rumours I have heard is that Mann will be playing & LRZ will be deployed at full back.


Posted By: Fscarlet
Date Posted: 05 February 2026 at 11:31am

Wales: Louis Rees-Zammit; Ellis Mee, Eddie James, Ben Thomas, Josh Adams; Dan Edwards, Tomos Williams; Nicky Smith, Dewi Lake (c), Archie Griffin, Dafydd Jenkins, Adam Beard, Alex Mann, Josh Macleod, Aaron Wainwright.

Replacements: Liam Belcher, Rhys Carre, Tomas Francis, Ben Carter, Taine Plumtree, Harri Deaves, Kieran Hardy, Mason Grady.



Posted By: ap sior
Date Posted: 05 February 2026 at 11:40am
Originally posted by Fscarlet Fscarlet wrote:

Wales: Louis Rees-Zammit; Ellis Mee, Eddie James, Ben Thomas, Josh Adams; Dan Edwards, Tomos Williams; Nicky Smith, Dewi Lake (c), Archie Griffin, Dafydd Jenkins, Adam Beard, Alex Mann, Josh Macleod, Aaron Wainwright.

Replacements: Liam Belcher, Rhys Carre, Tomas Francis, Ben Carter, Taine Plumtree, Harri Deaves, Kieran Hardy, Mason Grady.


Elias must be very disappointed. I feel Belcher is URC level, but no more.


Posted By: Scrletsfan32x
Date Posted: 05 February 2026 at 11:41am
Belcher over Elias are they mad.


Posted By: Ben10thomas
Date Posted: 05 February 2026 at 11:57am
Belcher over Ellias criminal totally agree.


Posted By: Ben10thomas
Date Posted: 05 February 2026 at 12:11pm
Think the Cardiff love machine must have been in over ride in selection. Adam’s, Ben Thomas, Mann, and Belcher are all contentianal selections to me 


Posted By: Fscarlet
Date Posted: 05 February 2026 at 12:17pm
Originally posted by Ben10thomas Ben10thomas wrote:

Think the Cardiff love machine must have been in over ride in selection. Adam’s, Ben Thomas, Mann, and Belcher are all contentianal selections to me 

Adams there for the kicking game, we all knew Ben T would start at 12 but the others are head scratchers for me.


Posted By: Scrletsfan32x
Date Posted: 05 February 2026 at 12:36pm
Mann and Belcher for me aren’t big or powerful enough for Test rugby. Where is Cracknell


Posted By: Eastern outpost
Date Posted: 05 February 2026 at 1:12pm
Originally posted by Wil Chips Wil Chips wrote:

I suspect Wales will put up a better account of themselves than many think (including England I hope).

A win is out of the question, but a 20 or so point defeat is reasonable.

Care to revisit now that the 23 has been announced?

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Posted By: Wil Chips
Date Posted: 05 February 2026 at 1:32pm
Originally posted by Eastern outpost Eastern outpost wrote:

Originally posted by Wil Chips Wil Chips wrote:

I suspect Wales will put up a better account of themselves than many think (including England I hope).

A win is out of the question, but a 20 or so point defeat is reasonable.

Care to revisit now that the 23 has been announced?



Yep...it will be a 50 pointer.


Posted By: Why
Date Posted: 05 February 2026 at 1:49pm
Think 20 points will have to be revised. Why has he picked Eddie out of position oh yeah to get Ben Thomas into 12 laughable and to pick Belcher over Elias is sheer madness.
Is Beard really still the best we got at second row. 
If we keep it under 50 we will be doing well. 
Chuffed for Josh but think it would have been a good game for him to miss. 


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Posted By: scarletpimp
Date Posted: 05 February 2026 at 1:57pm
After everything that's happened in Welsh rugby,  my emotional  interaction  with the 6N is minimal at best. 
After the last thrashing against  England in Cardiff  , I vowed I wouldn't  watch Wales again for the foreseeable future . Don't  mind losing but humiliation  is another matter.  Some people ( surely not real Welsh rugby fans) chained to their  bloody  keyboards, seem to revel in the grotesque  spectacle of an appalling  Welsh team. Not me,  saddens me immensely. 

I agree withnour sage, Will Chips, however, that the team selected will put up,a reasonable  fight and cling on tona modicum of respectability. 
Let's hope QuestionWink

There are players there selected which indicate Sherratts influence on Tandy.
Mann, Adams, Thomas and Beecher..stand out.
Cracknell, holding his own at Leicester is a bizarre omission. He should be at 8 and Wainwright  at 6. Ryan Elias has proved beyond doubt that  he is back to his best. Scarlets  scrummaging is always better when he is present. His line out throwing is much improved,  and far better than  Lake.
On the plus side Inam happy for Ellis abd Eddie , wish them well. 
What really pleased me though is  Josh McLoud's inclusion.
Not long ago, he suffered a near career ending injury.
I know from my daughters experience,  what that level of injury  can do to your body  and the subsequent  mental anguish  that follows.
Mc Loud is a warrior and I just think sometimes you get what you deserve
 ( not always), but Josh has worked so hard and is slowly  developing his leadership  skills. 

My main worry  however is with the Scarlets  squad being so thin,  WE CANNOT AFFORD INJURIES FROM 6N. This always happens in a contact sport understandably, but for Scarlets lose key players would  be a hammer blow.
At least we are not exposing  Ryan Elias, Jake Ball or Sam Costelow  ATM.
I still  have nightmare's about Samson Lee 's injury  ,playing for Wales.  Never the same player afterwards . 
Foxy suffered a similar serious injury, playing in WC, and he was never the same thereafter 


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Posted By: Sir Duckling Tuft
Date Posted: 05 February 2026 at 2:57pm
Hawkins ommission is a surprise especially as theres now no fly half on the bench either...so if edwards is injured then Id guess thomas goes to 10? and grady to 12? another crash ball merchant a poor mans jamie roberts

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Posted By: SA14
Date Posted: 05 February 2026 at 4:50pm
How the hell is Josh Adams starting. I love team announcement days. Every team’s supporters never agree. It’s the most one eyed time of the year. LOL


Posted By: EJPT
Date Posted: 05 February 2026 at 5:03pm
They’ll target dan edwards. He wont have alot of time as they’ve selected three very quick ‘7’s across the back row. Ruck Clear-outs need to be good. 


Posted By: Realwest
Date Posted: 05 February 2026 at 5:21pm
They will put a big runner at the 10/12 channel and have a lot of gainline success there.

Lake will be crap in the line out.

Archie Griffin has started 2 games all season and is 4th choice at Bath.

Adam beard will bumble about doing nothing apart from being tall and big. Hopefully he can raise his carries to 2 per game.

Dan Edward’s will be like a small child defensively.

As will Ben Thomas who will be tore apart by Dingwall.

Belcher will find out he is not International standard. 

We are going to get hammered what was the record defeat to England I fear this will be an absolute battering in the first half and when they bring the bench on Bomb squad style even worse.


Posted By: Davy
Date Posted: 05 February 2026 at 6:52pm
Eddie james should of been 12 
Watkins 13 he is good defensively 
We will need it 
Ben thomas and Hawkins are not international 
Quality yet 



Posted By: RR1972
Date Posted: 05 February 2026 at 6:54pm
Originally posted by Realwest Realwest wrote:

They will put a big runner at the 10/12 channel and have a lot of gainline success there.

Lake will be crap in the line out.

Archie Griffin has started 2 games all season and is 4th choice at Bath.

Adam beard will bumble about doing nothing apart from being tall and big. Hopefully he can raise his carries to 2 per game.

Dan Edward’s will be like a small child defensively.

As will Ben Thomas who will be tore apart by Dingwall.

Belcher will find out he is not International standard. 

We are going to get hammered what was the record defeat to England I fear this will be an absolute battering in the first half and when they bring the bench on Bomb squad style even worse.
fancy our chamces then?


Posted By: hoppy
Date Posted: 05 February 2026 at 7:13pm
Immanuel Feyi-Waboso is a doubt for England’s Six Nations game against Wales. 

A leg injury, which made him pull out of training today. Elliot Daly, if he’s not ready


Posted By: Realwest
Date Posted: 05 February 2026 at 7:51pm
Originally posted by RR1972 RR1972 wrote:

Originally posted by Realwest Realwest wrote:

They will put a big runner at the 10/12 channel and have a lot of gainline success there.

Lake will be crap in the line out.

Archie Griffin has started 2 games all season and is 4th choice at Bath.

Adam beard will bumble about doing nothing apart from being tall and big. Hopefully he can raise his carries to 2 per game.

Dan Edward’s will be like a small child defensively.

As will Ben Thomas who will be tore apart by Dingwall.

Belcher will find out he is not International standard. 

We are going to get hammered what was the record defeat to England I fear this will be an absolute battering in the first half and when they bring the bench on Bomb squad style even worse.
fancy our chamces then?

I won’t be putting any money on Wales to win put it that way


Posted By: Dai Guevara
Date Posted: 05 February 2026 at 8:58pm
Unless Archie Griffin has miraculously improved his scrumaging without playing for the Bath first team then, that single weakness will be relentlessly exploited for penalties and tries from 5m lineouts (even in the unlikely event that all else is equal).


Posted By: Lincscarlet
Date Posted: 06 February 2026 at 9:58am
I saw Josh and Ellis and LRZ in the team and I thought, yeah, maybe Tandy is picking on form….

But then I saw Adams somehow is involved, 1-decent-game-all-year Ben Thomas starts at 12, and the dodgiest darts in rugby is captain so will probably be costing us lineouts for the full 80. 

I am being positive though, this will be a shock win. Ellis Mee hattrick. 

At least all the back 3 are good in the air, should stop what they do to Murray last year from happening again 


Posted By: aber-fan
Date Posted: 06 February 2026 at 2:01pm
Originally posted by Fscarlet Fscarlet wrote:

Wales: Louis Rees-Zammit; Ellis Mee, Eddie James, Ben Thomas, Josh Adams; Dan Edwards, Tomos Williams; Nicky Smith, Dewi Lake (c), Archie Griffin, Dafydd Jenkins, Adam Beard, Alex Mann, Josh Macleod, Aaron Wainwright.

Replacements: Liam Belcher, Rhys Carre, Tomas Francis, Ben Carter, Taine Plumtree, Harri Deaves, Kieran Hardy, Mason Grady.


Like many others, I am more than a little baffled by some Cardiff-based (biased?) selections - Adams used to be good, but he has shot his bolt - should be nowhere near the team; Ben Thomas continues to get picked for no discernible reason; Belcher rather than Elias - why? Matt Sherratt - take a bow!

Mann has sometimes been OK, so I reserve judgement though Cracknell must be disappointed; Griffin is questioned here - hardly seen him, so no idea - we'll see how he goes. 

The rest are less contentious, but it hardly adds up to a team likely to give England a game... except...

There is always a chance (very small!). The game is played 'on grass, not on paper' as they used to say. I'm hoping to at least see Wales fired up from the first minute and smashing into contact or tackles (except Beard, obs.). I'm hoping England turn up complacent and half asleep. Clutching at straws? Of course.

But you never know.  


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Posted By: Lincscarlet
Date Posted: 06 February 2026 at 4:53pm
I’m guessing they feel Adams is better under the high ball so it’s a defensive call, and Grady is on the bench to cover both centre and wing, as Mee, Adams and LRZ can all do a job at fullback if required. I don’t get the Alex Mann thing, Cracknell, Wainwright and Josh seems better but hey I don’t get to choose. Maybe he’s carrying a knock? Interesting call to not have a 10 on the bench, I know they think Ben Thomas can play there but….


Posted By: Eastern outpost
Date Posted: 06 February 2026 at 6:07pm
Originally posted by Lincscarlet Lincscarlet wrote:

I’m guessing they feel Adams is better under the high ball so it’s a defensive call, and Grady is on the bench to cover both centre and wing, as Mee, Adams and LRZ can all do a job at fullback if required. I don’t get the Alex Mann thing, Cracknell, Wainwright and Josh seems better but hey I don’t get to choose. Maybe he’s carrying a knock? Interesting call to not have a 10 on the bench, I know they think Ben Thomas can play there but….
In some of our days at school, the older posters on here will remember a cartoon series on TV at kids’ time. There were 3 heroes.

One could turn himself to water and flood away an enemy. Another was multiman who could bring out a multiple of identical images of him. No recollection of what the third character’s special power was. 

Maybe the WRU selectors watched this programme and think Ben Thomas is multiman, at least in terms of where he can play.


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Posted By: Albert
Date Posted: 06 February 2026 at 6:23pm
I don't understand this selection at all. It seems to me that Eddie's form meant that he had to be picked but he's ill served playing at 13, even though he has played there a few times now for the Scarlets.  This in order to stick with Thomas as a 2nd five 8th.  Eddie offers far more  -good handling skills and a threat to the gain line which would keep the defence guessing. He is also a much  stronger defender than Thomas as well. 
How Adams retains his place is a mystery.  He's only half the player he was a few years ago. He's also become a penalty liability. I suppose they think that he is a better in the air defensively and on the chase than other choices. That tells you a lot about the tactics we can expect to see from Wales tomorrow. Look to the skies!
Another Cardiff player who doesn't cut it for me is Mann - aggressive, good engine but comparatively lightweight.  Belcher before Elias ( who has been in great form ) seems perverse.
Surely it can't be favouritism at this level?  I don't question the coaches' integrity as a group, but I am totally bemused at the thinking behind this selection.
Add Archie Griffin to shore up the scrum and a weak bench to the above.
I'ii be shouting for Wales as loud as ever. But from behind the settee!


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Posted By: hoppy
Date Posted: 06 February 2026 at 6:37pm
Originally posted by hoppy hoppy wrote:

Immanuel Feyi-Waboso is a doubt for England’s Six Nations game against Wales. 

A leg injury, which made him pull out of training today. Elliot Daly, if he’s not ready

Wasabo out forcebgland 


Posted By: Albert
Date Posted: 06 February 2026 at 6:37pm
P.S to my post above. As I said, I would prefer to see Eddie at 12", but I don't know who I would put at 13 from that squad  - such a specialist position in defence.

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Posted By: hoppy
Date Posted: 06 February 2026 at 6:39pm
Originally posted by hoppy hoppy wrote:

Originally posted by hoppy hoppy wrote:

Immanuel Feyi-Waboso is a doubt for England’s Six Nations game against Wales. 

A leg injury, which made him pull out of training today. Elliot Daly, if he’s not ready
Wasabo out forcebgland

 
Waboso out for englans roebuck in 


Posted By: Ben10thomas
Date Posted: 06 February 2026 at 7:11pm
Abbey how about Watkins outside Eddie  sound ?and with the back three they have picked in attack he is just a conduit to our outside backs?


Posted By: Albert
Date Posted: 06 February 2026 at 7:26pm
Originally posted by Ben10thomas Ben10thomas wrote:

Abbey how about Watkins outside Eddie  sound ?and with the back three they have picked in attack he is just a conduit to our outside backs?

Hi Ben10. Is this an answer for me or Abbey? 

Anyway thanks for reminding me that Watkins is in the squad. I would take a combi of him and Eddie before your namesake, any day.  Watkins hasn't had  a lot of rugby though since coming back from a long term injury. Is he still off the pace for an international 13, I wonder?


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Posted By: Ben10thomas
Date Posted: 07 February 2026 at 8:00am
Sorry Albert the vin rouge was kicking in yes was ment for you. Just thought with Watkins defensive abilities it might be a decent combo especially with the lack of any form 13s 


Posted By: GPR - Rochester
Date Posted: 07 February 2026 at 8:06am
Originally posted by Ben10thomas Ben10thomas wrote:

Sorry Albert the vin rouge was kicking in yes was ment for you. Just thought with Watkins defensive abilities it might be a decent combo especially with the lack of any form 13s 

Watkin would have been a safe bet certainly defensively but with the 2027 World Cup rapidly approaching I would have paired Eddie with Hennessey. Centre combinations needs time in the saddle to develop understanding.


Posted By: Ben10thomas
Date Posted: 07 February 2026 at 8:28am
To be honest I haven’t seen a lot of Hennessy play, even though he is very well spoken of, but yes I agree as a potential partnership for the future I would agree with you.


Posted By: Paul10
Date Posted: 07 February 2026 at 9:26am
I heard Cracknell failed a HIA in the week and isn't available.

As for the rest of the selection I'm not sure Thomas or Hawkins makes much difference. Beard in the set piece should help.

Could get ugly.


Posted By: GPR - Rochester
Date Posted: 07 February 2026 at 9:38am
Originally posted by Paul10 Paul10 wrote:

I heard Cracknell failed a HIA in the week and isn't available.

As for the rest of the selection I'm not sure Thomas or Hawkins makes much difference. Beard in the set piece should help.

Could get ugly.

I would not have played either Thomas or Hawkins but Sherratt is fixated on a 2nd play maker theory while missing the fact that Eddie can be both a playmaker & gainline threat. Just cos he's big does not mean he can't play. 


Posted By: RR1972
Date Posted: 07 February 2026 at 10:20am
framcis as an impact sub?? he shpuld start griffin on bench.  mann is too small at 6 ,  belcher is not test level and i think deaves is a v good regional player but not a test player. thomas is not test class . adams is shot, lrz not a test 15 for me. 30 plus defeat


Posted By: GPR - Rochester
Date Posted: 07 February 2026 at 11:07am
Originally posted by RR1972 RR1972 wrote:

framcis as an impact sub?? he shpuld start griffin on bench.  mann is too small at 6 ,  belcher is not test level and i think deaves is a v good regional player but not a test player. thomas is not test class . adams is shot, lrz not a test 15 for me. 30 plus defeat

Agree on all that. 


Posted By: Scrletsfan32x
Date Posted: 07 February 2026 at 12:12pm
Originally posted by GPR - Rochester GPR - Rochester wrote:

Originally posted by RR1972 RR1972 wrote:

framcis as an impact sub?? he shpuld start griffin on bench.  mann is too small at 6 ,  belcher is not test level and i think deaves is a v good regional player but not a test player. thomas is not test class . adams is shot, lrz not a test 15 for me. 30 plus defeat


Agree on all that. 
Same


Posted By: aber-fan
Date Posted: 07 February 2026 at 1:21pm
Originally posted by GPR - Rochester GPR - Rochester wrote:

Originally posted by Paul10 Paul10 wrote:

I heard Cracknell failed a HIA in the week and isn't available.

As for the rest of the selection I'm not sure Thomas or Hawkins makes much difference. Beard in the set piece should help.

Could get ugly.

I would not have played either Thomas or Hawkins but Sherratt is fixated on a 2nd play maker theory while missing the fact that Eddie can be both a playmaker & gainline threat. Just cos he's big does not mean he can't play. 

Quite so - just because you're big doesn't mean you can't have soft hands or an eye for the spaces.


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Posted By: aber-fan
Date Posted: 07 February 2026 at 1:22pm
Originally posted by Scrletsfan32x Scrletsfan32x wrote:

Originally posted by GPR - Rochester GPR - Rochester wrote:

Originally posted by RR1972 RR1972 wrote:

framcis as an impact sub?? he shpuld start griffin on bench.  mann is too small at 6 ,  belcher is not test level and i think deaves is a v good regional player but not a test player. thomas is not test class . adams is shot, lrz not a test 15 for me. 30 plus defeat


Agree on all that. 
Same

Well, the head says you are all right.

But the heart says "There's always hope"!


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Posted By: scarletpimp
Date Posted: 07 February 2026 at 2:53pm
Weather probably  poor in Twickenham Ouch
In Rome it's hammnering down..same across Europe. 
Professional rugby players should adapt to most conditions...
BUT WHY  IS THE TOP RUGBY TOURNAMENT IN THE WORLD PLAYED DURING THE WORST WEATHER OF THE YEAR?
It's ridiculous,  people running the game cannot organise a school competition leave alone an international calender.


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Posted By: lofty evans
Date Posted: 07 February 2026 at 2:55pm
Love to beat England 

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Posted By: Why
Date Posted: 07 February 2026 at 4:06pm
Originally posted by RR1972 RR1972 wrote:

framcis as an impact sub?? he shpuld start griffin on bench.  mann is too small at 6 ,  belcher is not test level and i think deaves is a v good regional player but not a test player. thomas is not test class . adams is shot, lrz not a test 15 for me. 30 plus defeat
I think 30 Is very optimistic 


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She asks why i still can't answer. I guess its in the blood.


Posted By: lofty evans
Date Posted: 07 February 2026 at 4:22pm
Jamie Roberts as a pundit is a nitpick 





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In 1972, Roy Bergiers scored that try and said "that was for you lofty"

"All you have to decide is what to do with the time that is given to us"


Posted By: Eastern outpost
Date Posted: 07 February 2026 at 4:31pm
Originally posted by lofty evans lofty evans wrote:

Jamie Roberts as a pundit is a nitpick 



He does talk drivel.

Mrs EO thinks the WRU would be in a hugely better place if it had Dan Biggar in an extremely senior position so he can demand people do a proper job and make them do it.


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In a world where you can be anything – Be Kind.


Posted By: ladram
Date Posted: 07 February 2026 at 4:35pm
Put a little fiver on Eddie at 50/1LOL


Posted By: lofty evans
Date Posted: 07 February 2026 at 4:45pm
Not using a recognised 15 just shown there .




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In 1972, Roy Bergiers scored that try and said "that was for you lofty"

"All you have to decide is what to do with the time that is given to us"


Posted By: lofty evans
Date Posted: 07 February 2026 at 4:46pm
Originally posted by ladram ladram wrote:

Put a little fiver on Eddie at 50/1LOL

Spot on laddie 




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In 1972, Roy Bergiers scored that try and said "that was for you lofty"

"All you have to decide is what to do with the time that is given to us"


Posted By: aber-fan
Date Posted: 07 February 2026 at 4:50pm
Why not take the three points? Three pens later, and they score a try.

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“You cannot reason a man out of what he never reasoned himself into.” (Jonathan Swift)


Posted By: ladram
Date Posted: 07 February 2026 at 4:56pm
Originally posted by lofty evans lofty evans wrote:

Originally posted by ladram ladram wrote:

Put a little fiver on Eddie at 50/1LOL

Spot on laddie 


Had five on Arundel too 


Posted By: aber-fan
Date Posted: 07 February 2026 at 5:02pm
Good ref this - two YCs for Wales - maybe deserved - but no YC for a Genge head butt.

Incredible.


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“You cannot reason a man out of what he never reasoned himself into.” (Jonathan Swift)


Posted By: lofty evans
Date Posted: 07 February 2026 at 5:02pm
French ref already planning  France England 

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In 1972, Roy Bergiers scored that try and said "that was for you lofty"

"All you have to decide is what to do with the time that is given to us"


Posted By: John
Date Posted: 07 February 2026 at 5:03pm
Hopeless and hapless. Down to 13. 


Posted By: Kooga67
Date Posted: 07 February 2026 at 5:06pm
Edwards restarts... deary me


Posted By: lofty evans
Date Posted: 07 February 2026 at 5:06pm
What was that pen for 

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In 1972, Roy Bergiers scored that try and said "that was for you lofty"

"All you have to decide is what to do with the time that is given to us"


Posted By: EJPT
Date Posted: 07 February 2026 at 5:08pm
People paying to watch this. Just awful 


Posted By: Kooga67
Date Posted: 07 February 2026 at 5:21pm
Dire. We are absolutely dire


Posted By: aber-fan
Date Posted: 07 February 2026 at 5:23pm
Why is Ben Thomas in the side? terrible pass gifts England another. 29-0

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“You cannot reason a man out of what he never reasoned himself into.” (Jonathan Swift)


Posted By: lofty evans
Date Posted: 07 February 2026 at 5:26pm
Go Josh 

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In 1972, Roy Bergiers scored that try and said "that was for you lofty"

"All you have to decide is what to do with the time that is given to us"


Posted By: lofty evans
Date Posted: 07 February 2026 at 5:27pm
Originally posted by aber-fan aber-fan wrote:

Why is Ben Thomas in the side? terrible pass gifts England another. 29-0


Yep





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In 1972, Roy Bergiers scored that try and said "that was for you lofty"

"All you have to decide is what to do with the time that is given to us"


Posted By: aber-fan
Date Posted: 07 February 2026 at 5:27pm
Why is Lake in the side? Can't touch the ball with his foot!

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“You cannot reason a man out of what he never reasoned himself into.” (Jonathan Swift)


Posted By: Ben10thomas
Date Posted: 07 February 2026 at 5:28pm
This is the worse 40mins by a Welsh side I can remember in my lifetime.
They look poorly prepared, I’ll disciplined, uninterested second best in every facet of the game.
England are streets are head of us but we are just making it so easy for them.
Dewi lake you have to tap the ball.aaahhhh.
 


Posted By: Why
Date Posted: 07 February 2026 at 5:28pm
Lake is a liability Ryan so much better 

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She asks why i still can't answer. I guess its in the blood.


Posted By: lofty evans
Date Posted: 07 February 2026 at 5:28pm
Tap and go Lake and he didn't tap jeeezzzz

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In 1972, Roy Bergiers scored that try and said "that was for you lofty"

"All you have to decide is what to do with the time that is given to us"


Posted By: lofty evans
Date Posted: 07 February 2026 at 5:30pm
Originally posted by Why Why wrote:

Lake is a liability Ryan so much better 


Agreed 


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In 1972, Roy Bergiers scored that try and said "that was for you lofty"

"All you have to decide is what to do with the time that is given to us"


Posted By: Kooga67
Date Posted: 07 February 2026 at 5:30pm
Hope i am proven wrong but the appointment  of Tandy was wrong on so many levels.


Posted By: lofty evans
Date Posted: 07 February 2026 at 5:31pm
Please let us shut up this commentary team and score tries 

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In 1972, Roy Bergiers scored that try and said "that was for you lofty"

"All you have to decide is what to do with the time that is given to us"


Posted By: skyblue
Date Posted: 07 February 2026 at 5:33pm
And we've still got the English bench to come😮

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Posted By: greypower1
Date Posted: 07 February 2026 at 5:33pm
Originally posted by Ben10thomas Ben10thomas wrote:

This is the worse 40mins by a Welsh side I can remember in my lifetime.
They look poorly prepared, I’ll disciplined, uninterested second best in every facet of the game.
England are streets are head of us but we are just making it so easy for them.
Dewi lake you have to tap the ball.aaahhhh.
 

Sums it up perfectly,  grim


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Posted By: aber-fan
Date Posted: 07 February 2026 at 5:35pm
29-0, and it's not English brilliance.

We have made it so easy for them by terrible decisions and poor skills.

Why, oh why at 3-0 down not take a pen at the posts? It wasn't that hard a kick. Instead, kich to touch and lose the lineout by giving away a daft pen. Another pen, then they score a try. 

We have had pens to a few yards from their line several times - but each time we haven't won clean ball and it's come to nothing. Who coaches the lineouts? (OK, maybe no one can coach Lake to throw in...)

Very poor discipline - we knew that from the Autumn. Why haven't the coaches sorted it? Many of the pens given away were totally unnecessary, not the result of pressure.

As for the ref - our first YC was deserved. Second on Lake looked rather harsh, as their maul split up and he tackled the man with the ball. Not convinced that was still a "maul'.

Worse, though, was the decision not to give a YC for the Genge head butt. That is incomprehensible. 

The ref is bad, but we're our worst enemies all the same. 


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“You cannot reason a man out of what he never reasoned himself into.” (Jonathan Swift)


Posted By: Eastern outpost
Date Posted: 07 February 2026 at 5:37pm
You need your big players to play to their best and lead. 

The captain ought to know in his bones re having to tap the 5m penalty. You need him on the field, not sat out for 10 mins for something so foolish.

LRZ may be a good full back at some point. Today is not that day. 

The highly thought of (by some) Ben Thomas and that give away try for 27-0 sums up the first half where it’s been amateur hour. I wouldn’t bet against there being another one along soon, either.

Josh MacLeod is excellent. Not sure who else is contributing that much in the pack, Wainwright maybe?


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In a world where you can be anything – Be Kind.


Posted By: Lincscarlet
Date Posted: 07 February 2026 at 5:37pm
Aside from anything else, how has Tandy not sorted out the discipline? I remember a few years ago only giving up 4 penalties all game vs…Ireland? And we won a tight game because of it.

Most of us had concerns about selection pre game, but Jesus wept Ben Thomas pass to Arundell followed by Lake NOT TAPPING THE FLIPPING TAP penalty???????  I ca accept England are leagues and leagues ahead of us, but when the players can’t go 2 minutes without coughing up a penalty or a card, can’t pass, can’t kick, can’t catch…..

How do we change this? New half backs? Oh…yeah…we didn’t bring a replacement 10. 

I never thought Tandy was the right appointment, I’m happy to go through a learning and building phase and I accept there are more defeats to come… but Christ, how can you consistently make such poor selection choices and tactical choices? 


Posted By: aber-fan
Date Posted: 07 February 2026 at 5:40pm
Having Lake as captain is a terrible idea - he never seems to convince refs of anything.

Someone else should get it - Tomos Williams, maybe? He's in a good position to see what's going on. He tried to convince the assistant ref to give a knock on in a ruck - there was one - but no dice. Another blind ref.!


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“You cannot reason a man out of what he never reasoned himself into.” (Jonathan Swift)


Posted By: EJPT
Date Posted: 07 February 2026 at 5:44pm
Originally posted by Kooga67 Kooga67 wrote:

Hope i am proven wrong but the appointment  of Tandy was wrong on so many levels.
Yes out of his depth. His last head coaching role was 8 years ago. 


Posted By: lofty evans
Date Posted: 07 February 2026 at 5:46pm
This kicking lark is doing my head in 

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In 1972, Roy Bergiers scored that try and said "that was for you lofty"

"All you have to decide is what to do with the time that is given to us"


Posted By: SA14
Date Posted: 07 February 2026 at 5:50pm
Originally posted by lofty evans lofty evans wrote:

Please let us shut up this commentary team and score tries 

The commentary is getting to me more than wales performance. Who’s this guy?


Posted By: aber-fan
Date Posted: 07 February 2026 at 5:58pm
Well at least we won't be nilled. 36-7

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“You cannot reason a man out of what he never reasoned himself into.” (Jonathan Swift)


Posted By: Abbey
Date Posted: 07 February 2026 at 6:00pm
Originally posted by lofty evans lofty evans wrote:

Originally posted by Why Why wrote:

Lake is a liability Ryan so much better 



Agreed 


Lake is over-rated. In our game against the Ospreys on Boxing Day, his throwing-in was awful and it’s been the same today. It’s one thing to be under the cosh and snatch at things but we should control our own set pieces.



Posted By: scarletabroad
Date Posted: 07 February 2026 at 6:03pm
Well Carre 2scrums 2 penalties 4 feet made how do we do without him.
Ben Thomas couldn’t fight his way out of a wet paper bag
Zammit is a winger for a reason

James has had a ball yet.

The ref has been bang on.

Tandy couldn’t pick his nose let alone a team.



Posted By: lofty evans
Date Posted: 07 February 2026 at 6:03pm
Thomas again through the hands not aimless kick 

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In 1972, Roy Bergiers scored that try and said "that was for you lofty"

"All you have to decide is what to do with the time that is given to us"


Posted By: lofty evans
Date Posted: 07 February 2026 at 6:14pm
Eddie James great defence 

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In 1972, Roy Bergiers scored that try and said "that was for you lofty"

"All you have to decide is what to do with the time that is given to us"


Posted By: lofty evans
Date Posted: 07 February 2026 at 6:17pm
Thomas yellow 

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In 1972, Roy Bergiers scored that try and said "that was for you lofty"

"All you have to decide is what to do with the time that is given to us"


Posted By: aber-fan
Date Posted: 07 February 2026 at 6:18pm
For once I sympathise with Ben Thomas- penalised and YC for ripping onthe ground, but it clearly wasn't on the ground.

The English are getting as good as Irland at only showing replays they want. Plumtree gets a YC for a valiant attempt to stop Polock scoring... a correct decision but not much he coudl do there.


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“You cannot reason a man out of what he never reasoned himself into.” (Jonathan Swift)


Posted By: Lincscarlet
Date Posted: 07 February 2026 at 6:22pm
I don’t want to blame the officials, at all, but they’ve been pretty shocking and one-eyed throughout. 

When will wales work on decision making though? Not just for the pens, but for what we do with the ball, what we do when awarded pens, when to go for a jackal and when not etc. 20 mins of the game with only 13 players is criminal, and it’s criminal be it should have been sorted in the AI’s 


Posted By: Legendinmybathroom
Date Posted: 07 February 2026 at 6:26pm
I think that they better install a naughty bench at the Principality as they probably don’t have enough seats for the Welsh yellow carded players.




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